1965 war: How India almost lost to Pakistan

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Arguably the biggest blunder on the Indian side was made by the erstwhile army chief General J.N. Chaudhuri, who agreed to a ceasefire saying that India’s front line ammunition had been expended and the Army had suffered considerable tank loss. It was later discovered that the Indian Army had only used 14 per cent of its frontline ammunition and still possessed twice the number of tanks compared to Pakistan, which in contrast had expended 80 per cent of its ammunition. Had India continued to fight, would the outcome have been more decisive in India’s favour and change the course of history is a question that experts and students of warfare need to analyse.

The reason for considering ceasefire was not military situation but the geo-political situation. There were threats of Chinese intervention which India took seriously and posted 60,000 troops in Sikkim, though later they turned out to be false.

Also threats of Indonesian navy based on Indonesia's statements on Andaman (These threats were taken seriously by CIA analysts as well, who assumed Indonesian navy would harass Indian navy during 1971 war.)

When India sought covert United States help to tackle the ‘triple squeeze’ of 1965 | The Indian Express

Nehru said India “thought the Indonesian contribution might be to take the Andaman and Nicobar Islands. India couldn’t stop this; it had no navy”

Not surprisingly Indian Navy was improved and played a decisive role in 1971

 

[ALexxy87]

Again wrong reading.. we destroyed twice more Indian jets and we captured Indian territory which is still under PA's control. Indian losses and defeat is not just witnessed by Pakistanis but also by the newspapers of the world. Try browsing them so you might learn how ill-informed you are kept.

NVA also lost much more equipments and manpower than US forces, but still they denied them from achieving their objective..that's why NVA is regarded as triumphant in Vietnam war.

 

[graphican]

NVA also lost much more equipments and manpower than US forces, but still they denied them from achieving their objective..that's why NVA is regarded as triumphant in Vietnam war.

Good example.. you should give more examples outside the actual 1965 war to build your argument stronger.

 

[Psychic]

You forget the Cold War. Pakistan was in the American camp. India was not in any at that point of time. Look at the American, British and other NATO/pro American countries, and you will find a similar reporting.

Take a look at these docs - most of them provide a pro Pak view of wars. Including that of 1971.
Newspaper Reports 1971 | December'1971
I have included mostly the ones from the West.

Yet the US put an arms embargo after 65 war. 71 was different though.

 

[GURU DUTT]

In your lone time, read this post of yours and question yourself "did India really won 1965 war" ? I am holding my reply for now because I have belief that you can answer this question yourself.

it was a partial sucsess for india but was a totall loss of pakistan but then again you can rebuff the facts which i gave you in my last post as denyal and conspiracy theories are your nations favrate passtime but of all just look in overall prespective for once and think about it .... cheers mate

Yet the US put an arms embargo after 65 war. 71 was different though.

and why did your very own "friends not masters" put an embargo on its so called "most important non NATO ally"

also care to tell from there own to regain your erlier status what your nation had to do for them and what were its consecquences on your nations socio-economick and polictical landscape

did you guys win Lahore? was your multi-axis assault a success? did you establish air superiority on the theater ?

did you won over kashmir for which ayub khan initiated 1965 war thru operation gibralter

if not then how is 1965 war a pakistani victory

 

[Manindra]

Yet the US put an arms embargo after 65 war. 71 was different though.

That for namesake only as war equipment provided by US allies like Jordan, Turkey & KSA.

 

[ice_man]

When did the timing and terms of post war agreement become washing hand and teeth? When you are winning a war, why will you go to the negotiation table and if you go, why can't you pull out the agreement on terms favourable to you?

Munna india crossed the border to capture Lahore however, in 22 days of war it failed to achieve its objective.

hence we celebrate our defence day. and you can keep crying on bharaat rakshaak whatever you feel.

but to us it is a big victory holding our own against an enemy larger than our's

Sialkot became our Stalingrad!

@graphican let them go on and on crying the reality remains that even though they had more weapons and men they still couldn't capture Lahore their initial aim. a place 50 kilometers away from AMRITSAR.

@GURU DUTT how many times will you repeat your nonsense munna.

 

[ALexxy87]

Good example.. you should give more examples outside the actual 1965 war to build your argument stronger.

I don't think the example is wrong..and if you have logic against my argument then why are not you giving them?

Munna india crossed the border to capture Lahore however, in 22 days of war it failed to achieve its objective.

hence we celebrate our defence day. and you can keep crying on bharaat rakshaak whatever you feel.

but to us it is a big victory holding our own against an enemy larger than our's

Sialkot became our Stalingrad!

@graphican let them go on and on crying the reality remains that even though they had more weapons and men they still couldn't capture Lahore their initial aim. a place 50 kilometers away from AMRITSAR.

@GURU DUTT how many times will you repeat your nonsense munna.

Then munna why did you stop the war and accepted ceasefire...and more importantly why did you leave Jammu and Kashmir in India's hand on agreement table? I can't remember the triumphant of actual Stalingrad did anything like that.

 

[ice_man]

I don't think the example is wrong..and if you have logic against my argument then why are not you giving them?


Then munna why did you stop the war and accepted ceasefire...and more importantly why did you leave Jammu and Kashmir in India's hand on agreement table? I can't remember the triumphant of actual Stalingrad did anything like that.

Munna why did you agree to a ceasefire if you were apparently "winning".

22 days and yet no capture of Lahore or Sialkot.

 

[ALexxy87]

Munna why did you agree to a ceasefire if you were apparently "winning".

22 days and yet no capture of Lahore or Sialkot.

We didn't start the war at first....but we were confident that we would retain our part of Kashmir on the negotiation table....and we did that exactly.....but why couldn't you take out whole Kashmir when you were winning in the field?

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Don't give your planes to the Indians as they are doing bad publicity of your plans - 1965 War (BBC footage).