1940 clipping of a place that prides itself for never changing

[forcetrip]

 

[ejaz007]

Doesn't this comes to mind if we look at the events today:

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

@forcetrip
What is your message, what is your purpose of posting this old british indian news article?
For british we pakhtuns were rebels, fanatics, terrorists while for us british were foriegn invading forces....faqir of ipi was not only supported by wazirs and dawars but also by neighbouring tribes of settled areas e.g marwats, bhittanis, bannuchis etc.
Your title of thread suggests that you are targetting an entire community , you should be careful.
I wonder what @Oscar thinks about this thread.

 

[qamar1990]

@forcetrip
What is your message, what is your purpose of posting this old british indian news article?
For british we pakhtuns were rebels, fanatics, terrorists while for us british were foriegn invading forces....faqir of ipi was not only supported by wazirs and dawars but also by neighbouring tribes of settled areas e.g marwats, bhittanis, bannuchis etc.
Your title of thread suggests that you are targetting an entire community , you should be careful.
I wonder what @Oscar thinks about this thread.

yes he is wrong in posting that.
the british were foreigners occupying the whole subcontinent.
the fight back then and the fight right now are totally different.

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the british deserved what they got.
all the evil they caused in the world
the tribesmen were on the right side because they were fighting invaders from europe.
but right now its us pakistanis including pathans who are fighting foreign funded militants,

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I dedicate this song about waziristan to @forcetrip

 

[forcetrip]

@forcetrip
What is your message, what is your purpose of posting this old british indian news article?
For british we pakhtuns were rebels, fanatics, terrorists while for us british were foriegn invading forces....faqir of ipi was not only supported by wazirs and dawars but also by neighbouring tribes of settled areas e.g marwats, bhittanis, bannuchis etc.
Your title of thread suggests that you are targetting an entire community , you should be careful.
I wonder what @Oscar thinks about this thread.

So you consider the thread title seems as an attack on a community? I hope not. It is something you pride yourselves in achieving. That community has successfully defended against all invading forces. Who wants to be like Japan and Germany who were conquered and humiliated. I wouldn't mind if the biggest casualty of the community has been "constant" disrespect and utter failure in growth as human beings. If you pride yourself on that then is something you are entitled to. Where I come in is when that community starts walking over my growth and freedom. Which is being taken care of as it has been done in the constant past and if things do not change will continue to happen in the foreseeable future as well. The funny part is you of all people should not have taken the thread title sarcastically, but with the usual pride you keep showing and telling us about. Its a psychological thing, you are educated enough to understand what the thread title means, while countless of your brothers and especially sisters are not as lucky and when shown this clipping will feel an inherent pride as being rebels that protected their lands, but not their future.

P.S Do not have youtube, could you give me the jist of the song instead.

 

[SQ8]

I wonder what @Oscar thinks about this thread.

I see this as a news article highlighting British activities in the region against those who opposed their government. Sadly I do not have the racist spectacles that you wear to see the rest.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

[QOUTE]I wouldn't
mind if the biggest
casualty of the
community has been "constant" disrespect
and utter failure in
growth as human
beings[/QUOTE]
I already understood why you posted that clip, to prove that we are savage "rebels" by nature.....i beg to differ that by resisting british invasion we failed to grow as human beings, for us standards of humanity comes from islam not west. Islam tell you to do jihad against invaders of your homeland. You must be very proud that your community polished the boots of british, were subservient to foriegners not just to british but to all invaders including us. You must be very happy that your british masters called you peaceful and civilized folk for not resisting enslavement. You are forgetting that even by wearing patloon, adopting british life style and their langauge...your british masters used to kick around your angrazified desis and humiliate them....
We were "rebels" to british raj? you must be out of your mind, we were freedom fighters.....i just remembered your ancestors also "rebelled" in 1857 against the slavery.

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I see this as a news article highlighting British activities in the region against those who opposed their government. Sadly I do not have the racist spectacles that you wear to see the rest.

You pretend to be dumb and clueless whenever some one pass offensive remarks against pashtuns. There is a forum rule that you would get infraction for attacking nationality/ethnicity. Now i need you to read this sentense of forcetrip about pashtun tribesmen carefully.

"I wouldn't
mind if the biggest
casualty of the
community has been
"constant" disrespect
and utter failure in growth as human
beings"

 

[forcetrip]

Only people like you can associate progress with the west. Progress in your dictionary is against islam. Again, not my problem. I polished boots for my western masters, delivered their food and wiped their floors. Thats whats called a job. I did all that and learned from them. Now they work for me, but somehow they do not have that idealistic approach and make it their "Ana" problem. Thats your feeble mindset that keeps your community to be one of the worst followers of your own version of islam. Grow up. If you fought an invader thats a noble thing. You have to protect yourself. But what did your tribe and community learn from that experience other than be constantly attacked? Not a damn thing. You actually unlearned a few other things, like respect for others. Since the paranoia of being conquered set in the whole society has just worked to become only one thing. Warriors. Thats not what a society is built on. The mongols followed that and look at them now. You need thinkers and rebels of the information age. You need creators and builders. The article shows you that you have learned nothing in the past 70 years, which is like 1000's of years in today's information age. You keep getting attacked like a bad virus and proudly profess that its hard work to defend your homeland. You become human sacrifices till the other person just tires themselves from killing astronomical numbers of you and then you celebrate your "victory". Wake up. If you do not learn from your defeats (or as you call victories) what do you bring to the table other than war stories of successful ambushes? You need to bring your community to a point that you can fight as equals, with education with diplomacy and without weapons. Stop being used as pawns for the rest of your lives.

The rebels fought the british back .. and then a few years later had one of the bloodiest civil wars in their history. 1861. They learned from that 150 years ago. Now they are in a position to treat your communities not more than annoying ant hills by throwing sugar and fire. Instead of your people wanting to make me do what they have been doing for the past 3000 years because that has worked out so well for them, its time they think about integrating some progressive architecture in their lives. If not they will continue to be a joke for others and an annoyance for us.

 

[qamar1990]

I see this as a news article highlighting British activities in the region against those who opposed their government. Sadly I do not have the racist spectacles that you wear to see the rest.

then your lying to yourself.
clearly this is attacking the pathan community in a way as if they are some trouble makers.

 

[forcetrip]

then your lying to yourself.
clearly this is attacking the pathan community in a way as if they are some trouble makers.

Do not read titles and forgo explanations. Thats what young and weak minds do.

Burqa-wearing gunmen attack Afghan police HQ: officials

KABUL: Three male suicide attackers wearing burqas attacked a police headquarters close to the Afghan capital Kabul on Friday, officials said, killing one policeman as concerns rise over security ahead of the presidential election.

Burqa-wearing gunmen attack Afghan police HQ: officials - DAWN.COM

@Pakone I just do not understand what kind of islamic warriors you seem to portray yourselves as. I mean what kind of fighting style is that to be proud of? But you see that is what happens when you have not exercised your brain properly for over 300 years. You run out of ways to kill your enemy effectively. So is born the disposable human "warrior".

 

[qamar1990]

Do not read titles and forgo explanations. Thats what young and weak minds do.

Burqa-wearing gunmen attack Afghan police HQ: officials

KABUL: Three male suicide attackers wearing burqas attacked a police headquarters close to the Afghan capital Kabul on Friday, officials said, killing one policeman as concerns rise over security ahead of the presidential election.

@Pakone I just do not understand what kind of islamic warriors you seem to portray yourselves as. I mean what kind of fighting style is that to be proud of? But you see that is what happens when you have not exercised your brain properly for over 300 years. You run out of ways to kill your enemy effectively. So is born the disposable human "warrior".

lmfao ok you got me i didn't read the article but i assumed just by going through it that you trying to compare the pathans british to the these terrorists who are not even all pathans and actually kill pathans.

 

[Asian.Century]

Precisely that attitude, for past 1000 years, FATA and KPK of Pakistan, has never developed, backward, socio-economic deprivation and poor will continue to remain. Pakistanis will never come out of this 'ego' problem, unfortunately.

 

[SQ8]

then your lying to yourself.
clearly this is attacking the pathan community in a way as if they are some trouble makers.

This is a news piece from a 1940s paper. It serves as an exemplar to the view of the British against the tribesman. It is you who are deceitful if you actually take those allegations seriously and find some hurt in them; instead of taking it as an example of the intricacies of the region and the fierceness in independence of the Tribal societies.