17 suspicious facts about Daesh

[SOHEIL]

No, we have created ISIS to tarnish image of Sunni Muslims, apparently.

self-defence mechanism

Self-destruction mechanism !

Apparently, so called 'self defense mechanism of Sunnis' is activated by blowing up themselves among women and children in streets, mosques and markets. Interesting.

 

[Luffy 500]

conspiracies .

The author didn't write any conspiracy nor promoted a theory based on presumptions and obscure rumors that you would label it a conspiracy theory. The author simply put forth some well documented facts and left the rest to the readers.

How can anyone blame Iran for supporting Daesh when said country is a sworn enemy of ISIS?

How are they sworn enemy of Iran? ISIS/Daesh directly aided that alawite pagan assad and iranian interest in the region. Daesh didn't even touch any of the shia militant groups but slaughtered sunni rebels and villages and aided directly and indirectly the rape and pillage of sunni areas in iraq by shia militants. Its because of daesh that Russia got an excuse to intervene and US got an excuse to aid kurdish independence. Daesh is the golden goose of Iran and the West and that much is common sense.

 

[SOHEIL]

The author didn't write any conspiracy nor promoted a theory based on presumptions and obscure rumors that you would label it a conspiracy theory. The author simply put forth some well documented facts and left the rest to the readers.

BS Documented

 

[Hamza913]

Why is Iran meddling in the affairs of Iraq in the first place?

Iraq is their Afghanistan.

Are you kidding?

If Baghdad falls, ISIS set their sights on Iran!

And Baghdad didn't fall, thanks to Iran.

ISIS won't attack Iran, Israel or Turkey in a fully fledged war until they can get a bigger army. Some estimate they still only have 30,000 men, which is very little compared to the amount of land they dictate.

@members on this site

Why are you so sectarian? "Shia this..., Sunni that...". You say the West exploits you, while you're the one's who dislike, hate even, different sects of your own religion. I've never heard a Shaivite make up conspiracies against a Vaishnavite or a Vendantite. You're hurting yourself in the end.

I have never come across Muslims hating different sects of Islam, but yes we have a habit of naming people by sect rather than just Muslim.

 

[f1000n]

About every point of that article can easily be proven wrong but how could anyone waste time on a journalist like that, trash article.

 

[AmirPatriot]

People here ask why we meddle in Iraq... ISIS is a direct threat to the security of our citizens. If they had taken Iraq, Iran would be next to be attacked.

 

[SOHEIL]

About every point of that article can easily be proven wrong but how could anyone waste time on a journalist like that, trash article.

Source :

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

As far as Turkish Muslim policy analysts are concerned, there are no surprises at all. Collapse of the Ottoman empires was enginered through proxies. They come in all shapes and forms, and spring up at different time and place as per the necessity. For example, proxy kings (Sauds etc.), proxy hard Islam (Wahabists etc.), proxy soft Islam (FETO etc.), proxy countries (KSA, UAE etc.), proxy alphabet soup terrorist organizations (Daesh etc.) and the list goes on and on. I haven't mentioned any person's name for Iblis has a better personality then them...

Now it's clear that FETO and Daesh have a link and they tried to implicaate Turkey in this dirty business. Allah-u Azimushshan has saved her...

As for the Ehl-i Iman, these Fitne and Fesat are all Keffara for all the collective Gunah they have collected in this time frame. So, it's a gain from the perspective of Ahiret...

 

[Dubious]

http://www.islam21c.com/politics/17-suspicious-facts-about-daesh/

Jul 10, 2016 by Abdullāh Ladadwi

Under US-led aerial bombardment, Iraqi Government forces and pro-Iranian militia known as the ‘National Mobilisation Front’ continue their assault on Sunni neighbourhoods. Although disturbed and aggravated, many Muslims around the world are struggling to understand exactly what is happening. On the one hand we recognise the atrociousness of these crimes, yet on the other, and lending to the tangled and delusional propaganda delivered by those forces complicit in the ‘grander objective’, we are made to think that the alternative is ISIS, or Daesh. Daesh, however, is now well known to be a perverted group, either a contemporary stroke of the Khawarij whose persistent support to the interests of western hegemony, the despotic Syrian regime and Iran are just an unfortunate coincidence; or an outright colonial project.

Apart from the readily available evidence and arguments that links them to both despotic regimes[1] and western governments[2], simple, common sense prevails through their very scheming handiwork, even in Iraq where it is less clear. Before adding 17 vital issues to this effect for each and every one of us to consider, we must note that Sunnism is not a ‘sect’ as we are made to believe, nor is it merely an alternative dogma, it is practically the entire Muslim nation that does not adopt a schism or agree to sectarianism.

With that in mind, consider the following.

1) Six Iraqi Sunni provinces rebelled against the previous Maliki sectarian government and did not participate in the latest elections; a political rebellion long before the current armed struggle.

2) The Sunni revolt was nearing success and gained huge popular support, particularly in Western Iraq before Daesh became involved.

3) Mosul was suddenly handed over by the Iraqi Regime to Daesh with all of its equipment and everything in it and without forewarning in June 2014. Up to 30,000 Iraqi soldiers fled an attacking force of 1,500.[3]

4) Daesh has since only ever infiltrated Sunni areas and has never even gone near to the Iranian border. Tehran previously limited Daesh’s presence to within 40km of the Iraqi-Iranian border and this warning was issued publicly.[4] The group, ready to adopt attacks on powerful states including Turkey has thus far respected Iran’s wishes.

5) Convoys comprising tens or hundreds of vehicles owned by Daesh regularly move through Iraqi desert land, holding identity flags without anyone or anything—aircraft or military personnel—confronting them. Note here that the oft-touted ‘Counter-ISIL’ military coalition in Iraq comprises of 60 active member states,[5] with eye-watering contracts with private “defence” corporations.

6) Daesh has halted its advancement at the borders of Samarra and Baghdad and has not fired a single bullet into Shi’ite territory.

7) Daesh’s extending northern front has stopped at the borders of Kurdistan, not taking a single step into Kurdish territory. Daesh’s crimes have so far occurred solely against Sunni areas and states and specifically in the six provinces it occupies.

8) Battles took place in areas such as Palmyra that created a convenient smokescreen for its cunning end. These supposed battles brought about no positive outcomes for the Syrian Revolution, but only bolstered the group’s munitions under the watchful eye of the so-called International Coalition. Both Palmyra and Raqqa were, before Daesh, liberated by revolutionary groups from the Syrian Regime, but upon Daesh entering, they were handed over to the Syrian Regime[6] and the Kurdish PKK, respectively.

9) Daesh, instead of retrieving their regions have moved on to assault the next Islamic Revolution stronghold; the town of Marea, located 25km north of Aleppo.

10) Those who know Iran’s strategy appreciate that it is willing to sacrifice hundreds or even thousands of Arab Shi’ites in order to achieve its grander expansionist objectives. Iran is happy for Daesh to execute some Shi’ite Arabs, if this feeds its wider campaign of bringing the region under its control.

11) Daesh have declared Kufr (disbelief) on everyone but have yet to declare Kufr on Iran or a single Iranian official. Other perverted stances include their declaration of Kufr against the Palestinian Islamic Resistance group Hamas which did not extend to Hamas’ more secular rival Fateh. Everyone, particularly Islamic groups are, by their classification apostates, a member of a ‘Sahwa’[7] movement and all of their opponents are outside of the fold of Islam.

12) Upon entering any province, Daesh give its residents the option of giving the pledge of allegiance to their leader ‘al Baghdadi’, thus surrendering their weapons in exchange for promised ‘protection’ or of facing execution at knife-point. After collecting the residents’ arms and taking exclusive control of it, they begin carrying out their cunning plan.

13) The provinces’ residents are then subject to starvation and besiegement by the criminal and sectarian ‘Popular Mobilisation’ and the residents of the province are dispersed in every direction. A sham battle takes place in which Daesh boast about killing scores of ‘Safawis‘, releasing video after video about the ‘Lions of the Khilafah‘ and the ‘Soldiers of the Khalifah‘ and other such nonsense that entices the emotions of the mindless.

14) The result, every time, is exactly the same; an ignominious defeat in every Sunni area (Tikrit, Ramadi and others) that Daesh are present in. Daesh’s fighters withdraw to another area, leaving its civilians to suffer the brunt of the ruthless, Shi’ite ‘Mobilisation Front’ alone through looting, burning, killing and rape. This ends in the complete annihilation of that area, wiping it completely off the map.

15) Likewise the process of eliminating Iraq’s Sunni communities is carried out, one community at a time. After Fallujah the only province left is Mosul and its fate does not look any more promising. At this point Daesh will have completed their objective, handing over the Sunnis and their areas to the sectarians and ending the Sunni presence (as communities) in Iraq. All the while the world cheers on under the pretext of fighting Daesh terrorism.

16) Abu Mohammad al-Adnani, who is al-Baghdadi’s likely replacement recently announced their readiness to go back to the desert, indifferent about the ongoing destruction of towns and desecration of people’s honour, not least women. The main thing is that they remain as an idea, despite their oft-parroted slogan “the state (Daesh) will remain and stretch further.”

17) Daesh have almost completed their objective in Iraq which is much like their objective in Syria. It is well known that they weakened and assaulted the Syrian Islamic revolutionary groups in the latter, after having controlled the majority of Syria’s territories.

In fact the international perceived threat of Syria being overruled by mainstream Muslim groups—its people’s will—is what has created alarm bells for both the US and Russia who, instead of supporting the people’s revolution, have weakened the groups who are fighting the regime and Daesh at the same time. So even if the above impression of ‘conspiracy’ is not entirely true, it is therefore impossible to envisage a project that serves Iran and Bashar’s interests better than Daesh and all of those complicit with it.

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It isnt too hard to see what DAESH really is....

Islam has been around for more than 1400 yrs if it was DAESH like it would have shown those behaviours in any of the 1400 yrs....

If it was DAESH like it, UK would have drowned when the 1st set of Muslims went there...Same for USA....surprisingly the religion of Islam is growing in both these countries who massacred millions around the globe.....THIS ALONE is testimony ISLAM and daesh are 2 separate issues altogether...

HOWEVER what did change was COLD WAR, America's invasion in Afghanistan and followed by Iraq....WHICH surprisingly gave media coverage and free advertisement to all these groups...Lets also not forget that the same invaders ATTACKED civilians and called them collator damage and to this day havent apologized - THAT is the same as the frustrated idiots in America nodding with HITLER like remarks of Donald Trump BEFORE THEY EVEN FELT ANYTHING CALLED A WAR!

Imagine what the Afghan/ Iraq region felt after ENDLESS mess/ deaths/ violence and shit happening on your land for a decade!

@AmirPatriot
@Serpentine







There you go !





Good one !!!



Shocking ?

Havent you people had enough from Gulf wars...Guess who won those wars? WEAPON MANUFACTURERS!

Whose winning now? SAME WEAPON MANUFACTURERS....So until you guys wake up and realize that you are benefiting none other than some people who think of you as their puppet clients of mischief I dont see any peace in Middle east!

 

[f1000n]

The author didn't write any conspiracy nor promoted a theory based on presumptions and obscure rumors that you would label it a conspiracy theory. The author simply put forth some well documented facts and left the rest to the readers.

Distorted facts, if you followed the IS uprising and the war on IS you would spot them easily but you didn't follow it closely like 90% of those that comment on the IS subject therefor it's easy for anyone to write such articles and become an 'analyst' at Chatham house/Twitter etc.

 

[Serpentine]

Havent you people had enough from Gulf wars...Guess who won those wars? WEAPON MANUFACTURERS!

Whose winning now? SAME WEAPON MANUFACTURERS....So until you guys wake up and realize that you are benefiting none other than some people who think of you as their puppet clients of mischief I dont see any peace in Middle east!

What are you talking about dear? We are dealing with some idiots who think Iran has created ISIS to conspire against 'Sunni Muslims'. I mean can you talk reason to somebody like that? No one is cheering for wars, on the other hands, some potential terrorists are sad in their hearts that they don't see ISIS explosions in Iran, tearing women and children apart. Some people are actually disappointed not seeing that, do you realize that?

 

[Dubious]

What are you talking about dear? We are dealing with some idiots who think Iran has created ISIS to conspire against 'Sunni Muslims'. I mean can you talk reason to somebody like that? No one is cheering for wars, on the other hands, some potential terrorists are sad in their hearts that they don't see ISIS explosions in Iran, tearing women and children apart. Some people are actually disappointed not seeing that, do you realize that?

1) Why call it ISIS and insult Islam? when many times Muslim speakers have said they have nothing to do with Islam
2) Saying that (that they arent Muslims) it is clear it isnt a Shia Sunni issue so stop trying to make it one!

 

[f1000n]

What are you talking about dear? We are dealing with some idiots who think Iran has created ISIS to conspire against 'Sunni Muslims'. I mean can you talk reason to somebody like that? No one is cheering for wars, on the other hands, some potential terrorists are sad in their hearts that they don't see ISIS explosions in Iran, tearing women and children apart. Some people are actually disappointed not seeing that, do you realize that?

If Iraqi forces attack IS they are evil Shi'ites massacring the poor Sunnis.
If Iraqi forces do nothing they are evil Shi'ites watching by not helping poor Sunnis from IS.

It can't be done right in the eyes of the general Muslim who is taught to hate. If you look at Yemen some dozen countries are involved and foreign ground troops help Hadi's forces. In Iraq there aren't any directly involved in combat on the ground though wouldn't it be equal to Yemen's situation if we invited 20K Iranian troops to aid in the fight? Imagine the outrage, there you have the Muslim world, trash.

 

[Serpentine]

1) Why call it ISIS and insult Islam? when many times Muslim speakers have said they have nothing to do with Islam
2) Saying that (that they arent Muslims) it is clear it isnt a Shia Sunni issue so stop trying to make it one!

1) I don't call it ISIS, it's their name. But anyway, my point wasn't their name, let's call them MonkeyFaces or Cockroaches or whatever, I was talking about something else.

2) I didn't make it a Sunni-Shia issue, you should have answered the degenerate who has written that 'article'. Some lunatics actually believe ISIS is made by Iran to target Sunnis, seriously, how dumb can someone be to believe something like that?

If Iraqi forces attack IS they are evil Shi'ites massacring the poor Sunnis.
If Iraqi forces do nothing they are evil Shi'ites watching by not helping poor Sunnis from IS.

It can't be done right in the eyes of the general Muslim who is taught to hate. If you look at Yemen some dozen countries are involved and foreign ground troops help Hadi's forces. In Iraq there aren't any directly involved in combat on the ground though wouldn't it be equal to Yemen's situation if we invited 20K Iranian troops to aid in the fight? Imagine the outrage, there you have the Muslim world, trash.

Best solution? Ignore the lunatics and kill ISIS bastards like you are doing right now, without giving a damn what any random Joe idiot has to say.

 

[Dubious]

I don't call it ISIS, it's their name.

No...its what they want to be acknowledge as and you did it

I never call it that....I call it Deash or even mentally sick people

But anyway, my point wasn't their name, let's call them MonkeyFaces or Cockroaches or whatever, I was talking about something else.

My MAIN point was also not the name....BUT the fact that since you are still putting Islamic into their names you are trying to take it as though it is a Sunni - Shia thing...

Now if they are not even Muslims - no ISIS - then why is this thread still running about Shia/ Sunni?

2) I didn't make it a Sunni-Shia issue, you should have answered the degenerate who has written that 'article'. Some lunatics actually believe ISIS is made by Iran to target Sunnis, seriously, how dumb can someone be to believe something like that?

I actually didnt read that whole article...Read my reply to him it has nothing to do with the article but more to do with - stop and think for a while regarding the topic before even going any further ...

It isnt too hard to see what DAESH really is....

Islam has been around for more than 1400 yrs if it was DAESH like it would have shown those behaviours in any of the 1400 yrs....

If it was DAESH like it, UK would have drowned when the 1st set of Muslims went there...Same for USA....surprisingly the religion of Islam is growing in both these countries who massacred millions around the globe.....THIS ALONE is testimony ISLAM and daesh are 2 separate issues altogether...

HOWEVER what did change was COLD WAR, America's invasion in Afghanistan and followed by Iraq....WHICH surprisingly gave media coverage and free advertisement to all these groups...Lets also not forget that the same invaders ATTACKED civilians and called them collator damage and to this day havent apologized - THAT is the same as the frustrated idiots in America nodding with HITLER like remarks of Donald Trump BEFORE THEY EVEN FELT ANYTHING CALLED A WAR!

Imagine what the Afghan/ Iraq region felt after ENDLESS mess/ deaths/ violence and shit happening on your land for a decade!