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12 year old boy being produced in court under police custody

Why not - why can't conservatism and modernism and liberalism live side by side.
A conservative person cant be modern and liberal.If you say he can be all the three together than he is bigot and he is none of the three.



Unless of-course you could give alms to the right people.

This however, is a very interesting subject. Not many religions allow conversion to another religion. At the same time, not many religions allow an inter religious male and female marriage. Muslim male is allowed to marry Christian and Jewish females. A Sikh male or female, can not marry out of religion. I believe, such is also the case in Christianity. I don't know about the Jews, but have known many Jewish male and female married in other religions.
alms can be given to anyone and everyone even to Gods.But even then religious conversions/inter-religion marriages happen.As for hindu philosophy even you are a hindu if you believe in any god.
 
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A conservative person cant be modern and liberal.If you say he can be all the three together than he is bigot and he is none of the three.

I very humbly beg to differ with you. If you can understand your beliefs well and remain within the prescribed norms, you still can be modern and liberal.

If you understand modernism and or liberalism without restrictive norms, in my opinion you may have a different understanding.

In my opinion, any norm without restrictive practices leads to extremism. The length and breadth of restrictive lines may differ from culture to culture and from religion to religion.

Which also means that the definition of modernism and liberalism may differ from person to person, from culture to culture etc, but it may never become, as they say in Urdu - madar pidar azaad. This becomes extremism. Many may not agree with me.


alms can be given to anyone and everyone even to Gods.But even then religious conversions/inter-religion marriages happen.As for hindu philosophy even you are a hindu if you believe in any god.

I believe in one God. Understanding about three million is certainly beyond my physical and mental comprehension.

If I believe in any God and I am a Hindu, then why is it that certain Hindus hate me because I am a Muslim.
 
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I very humbly beg to differ with you. If you can understand your beliefs well and remain within the prescribed norms, you still can be modern and liberal.

If you understand modernism and or liberalism without restrictive norms, in my opinion you may have a different understanding.

In my opinion, any norm without restrictive practices leads to extremism. The length and breadth of restrictive lines may differ from culture to culture and from religion to religion.

Which also means that the definition of modernism and liberalism may differ from person to person, from culture to culture etc, but it may never become, as they say in Urdu - madar pidar azaad. This becomes extremism. Many may not agree with me.
Thats why i'm called femi-nazi here...................... :D




I believe in one God. Understanding about three million is certainly beyond my physical and mental comprehension.

If I believe in any God and I am a Hindu, then why is it that the certain Hindus hate me because I am a Muslim.
My simple raesoning for that is Its all in the name just like kela is hindi banana in english artipandu in telugu etc etc only the name change but physically it remains banana only.
May be they hate you as person not as muslim.Btw hate begets hate.It depend how one stealthily hides his hate.Woh kahate hain na hindi main kah kar bhi na kah jaane wali baat.

And what may I ask is JJSO 2000 from Musharraf.
coz it was passed during Mush era if im not wrong.

Juvenile Justice System Ordinance 2000 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I agree with you, this is what Bhartis do with Kashmiris and that too even 12 year olds.
Do what? Take them to court? Or Do you want the police to watch while they being lynched? Remember Sialkot Lynching of minors by Pakistani mob and Sialkot police were among spectators. No, we can't do this that's why we take accused to court.

Why, because the 12 year old is a Muslim. Why, because the 12 year old must have seen hundreds of deaths in front of him. Why, because he does not want to remain under Indian occupation. Why, because if the great Indians could do this to a 12 year old, what would they do to Kashmiri women and children. Why because these people are seeking freedom from Indian occupation.
No, because he is accused to hurled grenades on security forces. What reward you give in Pakistan to kids who try to kill your Frontier corps?
And read this report of extra judicial killings in Pakistan.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights Do you kill them because they are muslim?


When this 12 year old grows up, unless he is killed before he grows up, he will still remember the atrocities of brave Indian security forces killing innocent men, women and children and protected under the great Indian law and its penal codes and its penal colonies like Kashmir and most of NE India and would be protected by AFSPAs.

Innocent? Innocent TTP and BLT you mean?
AFSPA will be removed if you stop sponsoring terrorism in Kashmir.

A 12 year old arrested for demonstrating against the great India.

Demonstrating with grenades, this could be common in our neighborhood but we don't call it demonstration.
 
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Thats why i'm called femi-nazi here...................... :D

wow ... spare me the concentration camp please.

Hail Madam Fuehrer.


My simple raesoning for that is Its all in the name just like kela is hindi banana in english artipandu in telugu etc etc only the name change but physically it remains banana only.
May be they hate you as person not as muslim.Btw hate begets hate.It depend how one stealthily hides his hate.Woh kahate hain na hindi main kah kar bhi na kah jaane wali baat.

I am what I am - I say what I feel and am as straight as I can be. I can not become a 5th generation stealth plane.


OK. Thanks.

Do what? Take them to court? Or Do you want the police to watch while they being lynched? Remember Sialkot Lynching of minors by Pakistani mob and Sialkot police were among spectators. No, we can't do this that's why we take accused to court.

No, because he is accused to hurled grenades on security forces. What reward you give in Pakistan to kids who try to kill your Frontier corps?
And read this report of extra judicial killings in Pakistan.
Amnesty International | Working to Protect Human Rights Do you kill them because they are muslim?

Innocent? Innocent TTP and BLT you mean?
AFSPA will be removed if you stop sponsoring terrorism in Kashmir.

Demonstrating with grenades, this could be common in our neighborhood but we don't call it demonstration.

The newspaper clipping said, a 12 year old boy being taken to court in Srinagar for demonstrating against India. I said what I said. And I am not sorry for it. You don't like - lump it.
 
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wow ... spare me the concentration camp please.

Hail Madam Fuehrer.

I am what I am - I say what I feel and am as straight as I can be. I can not become a 5th generation stealth plane.
Anyway you are hindu....muh main Ram bagal main churi....:tongue:
 
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The newspaper clipping said, a 12 year old boy being taken to court in Srinagar for demonstrating against India. I said what I said. And I am not sorry for it. You don't like - lump it.

did the Newspaper clipping tell you what he did ??
did the newspaper clipping tell what happened to him after going to court ??


Half baked info is a dangerous thing........get the whole picture and then make your opinion......just look at the part of him being taken to court and disregarding everything else .....its just tailoring the news to you...........
 
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