12 dead and 14 hurt in cross-border Afghan shelling in Chaman

[Kabira]

Didn't people on other side protest saying that they are Pakistanis when angor ada was handed over by army?

 

[Icarus]

and politicians don't know? lol

Can you count how many of them have seen the area?

 

[ziaulislam]

Ana is still shelling the city and our air force has been put on a stand by . What a joke !

Not the first time not the last...
Even diplomatically we wil do nothing...apart from asking afghan pm to come and in process embrassing ourself

 

[Spring Onion]

She's a journalist and I'm a military guy who served in FATA for much of the 2007-11 period.

Few years back whenever there was a drone attack in Waziristan the news channels head offices in Karachi/Islamabad used to ask their reporters in Peshawar to send the footage or some images of the attack/s within 30 minutes or earlier amusingly they did not know that Waziristan or for that matter not even Mir Ali was situated in BARA

It is just recently they got some sense of geography which I still doubts that they have fully understood or have thorough knowledge.

 

[BHarwana]

@ziaulislam May be this report is more comfortable for you.

Af-Pak border skirmish stops, 9 dead, 42 wounded

Security & Crime

By
Bashir Ahmad Naadim
On
May 05, 2017 - 14:38
KANDAHAR CITY (Pajhwok): Nine people were killed and 42 others wounded across the border in Pakistan as an hours-long skirmish between Afghan and Pakistani border guards came to an end on Friday.

The Pakistani media reported that five children and three women were among those killed in the skirmish that broke out early in the morning. Four Frontier Corps (FC) personnel were said to be among the injured.

Kandahar police chief Gen. Abdul Raziq, who was at the scene, told Pajhwok Afghan News that so far one Afghan civilian had been killed and eleven security personnel injured in the incident.

He said the Pakistani forces had also suffered casualties but he had no figures. The police chief Luqman village was part of Afghanistan and the Pakistani forces wanted to conduct population census there.

Gen. Raziq said the Pakistani side had been informed through the Afghan Commissionerate not to conduct the census exercise in the village, but they came in military vehicles and opened fire at the Afghan forces.

He claimed the Afghan forces retaliated in self-defence and heavy weapons fire from the Pakistan side continued.

As a result of the skirmish, the police chief said, the Friendship Gate, the border crossing between the two countries, had been closed and about one thousands families had fled homes.

Dr Akhtar, a senior health official in Chaman border town of Pakistan, told the Pakistan media that more than 40 people had been injured, with five critically wounded victims sent to Quetta for medical treatment.

The Pakistan Army's media wing said exchange of firing had stopped and Pakistan and Afghan security officials would be meeting on the Chaman crossing for a flag meeting.

Shopkeepers in Chaman city shuttered their shops and residents evacuated homes in Killi Luqman, Killi Jahangir and Badshah Adda Kahol, Killa Abdullah's district police officer (DPO), Sajid Mohmand was quoted as saying.

Security had also been ramped up in Quetta and other parts of Balochistan following the cross-border attack, and additional contingents of the Army and FC had been dispatched to the Pak-Afghan border in Chaman, DawnNews reported, quoting military sources.

The Foreign Office (FO) also summoned the Afghan chargé d'affaires to lodge a protest against the cross-border attack.

The chargé d'affaires was told that the "unprovoked firing by Afghan forces had led to the loss of lives, disrupted the census in areas on the Pakistan side of the border and caused damage to properties," a statement released by the FO said.

A resident of Luqman village, Abdul Shakoor, said the village was on the Afghan side of the border and many Afghans ran businesses in the area bazaar. He said some families remained indoors but others were able to flee.

Earlier, Kandahar police official Ghorzang Afridi told Pajhwok Afghan News the clash erupted at about 4am and accused the Pakistani militia forces of initiating the gun-battle. He claimed the Pakistani forces fired light and heavy weapons targeting the Afghan forces.

Adridi said additional forces had been sent to the border. He said the Afghan forces captured and torched two armoured vehicles of the Pakistani forces.

One Afghan border police was injured in the clash and he had no information about casualties across the border in Balochistan’s Chaman town.

He said Luqman village belonged to Spin Boldak border district of southern Kandahar province, but the Pakistani side considered the village their own.

Afridi said the clash occurred after Pakistan’s population census officials, accompanied by border militia forces, visited the Luqman village to conduct the census, but Afghan border guards prevented their move. In retaliation, he said, the Pakistani forces opened fire at the Afghan forces.

ISPR said the Afghan border guards' opened fire despite the fact that Afghan authorities had been informed in advance about the census exercise in Pakistan and coordination was carried out through diplomatic and military channels.

Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria told a weekly briefing in Islamabad that the Afghan authorities had been informed about the on-going census exercise.

"Dialogue is the only political means available to us to establish peace in Afghanistan," Zakaria said

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2017/05/05/af-pak-border-skirmish-stops-9-dead-42-wounded

 

[Icarus]

and politicians don't know? lol

Here's a source within the Government corroborating what I'm saying though: https://www.dawn.com/news/1264568

Few years back whenever there was a drone attack in Waziristan the news channels head offices in Karachi/Islamabad used to ask their reporters in Peshawar to send the footage or some images of the attack/s within 30 minutes or earlier amusingly they did not know that Waziristan or for that matter not even Mir Ali was situated in BARA

It is just recently they got some sense of geography which I still doubts that they have fully understood or have thorough knowledge.

I had people a team of journalists visit us in Bajaur in 2009, all of these people you see hosting 9 O'Clock news and the first thing they said was, "Sir yeh ilaqa toh Peshawar say bara door hai". They had some strange notion in their minds that Peshawar falls in the center of a circular FATA and then the rest of KPK comes after.

 

[BRAVO_]

our military was aware about it that afghans will hit such type of targets during the census ... doesn't they ?? over 200,000 troops are engaged to provide the support to complete the census... seems no body was ready to face any afghan resistance .. any idea why?

 

[Spring Onion]

and politicians don't know? lol

Few from the area must be knowing but they would play to the party policy just like Maryam Nawaz declares that entire Panama Leaks are a trash and aimed at maligning Nawaz Sharif,if so then I think the rulers and politicians of other countries of the world who either resigned over their enlistment in the leaks or still facing public trials are just a collateral damage

@Icarus

 

[Counterpunch]

our military was aware about it that afghans will hit such type of targets during the census ... doesn't they ?? over 200,000 troops are engaged to provide the support to complete the census... seems no body was ready to face any afghan resistance .. any idea why?

Census security teams are not armed for fighting such kind of attacks. And it was not expected that Afghans will stoop to such lows

 

[MM_Haider]

Here's a source within the Government corroborating what I'm saying though: https://www.dawn.com/news/1264568

poor politicians are always there to clean the mess created by our patriots!!!

further reading!!
http://epaper.dawn.com/DetailNews.php?StoryText=07_06_2016_004_004

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1141946/border-issue-swa-residents-raise-voice-closure-angoor-adda/

 

[ziaulislam]

@ziaulislam May be this report is more comfortable for you.

Af-Pak border skirmish stops, 9 dead, 42 wounded

Security & Crime

By
Bashir Ahmad Naadim
On
May 05, 2017 - 14:38
KANDAHAR CITY (Pajhwok): Nine people were killed and 42 others wounded across the border in Pakistan as an hours-long skirmish between Afghan and Pakistani border guards came to an end on Friday.

The Pakistani media reported that five children and three women were among those killed in the skirmish that broke out early in the morning. Four Frontier Corps (FC) personnel were said to be among the injured.

Kandahar police chief Gen. Abdul Raziq, who was at the scene, told Pajhwok Afghan News that so far one Afghan civilian had been killed and eleven security personnel injured in the incident.

He said the Pakistani forces had also suffered casualties but he had no figures. The police chief Luqman village was part of Afghanistan and the Pakistani forces wanted to conduct population census there.

Gen. Raziq said the Pakistani side had been informed through the Afghan Commissionerate not to conduct the census exercise in the village, but they came in military vehicles and opened fire at the Afghan forces.

He claimed the Afghan forces retaliated in self-defence and heavy weapons fire from the Pakistan side continued.

As a result of the skirmish, the police chief said, the Friendship Gate, the border crossing between the two countries, had been closed and about one thousands families had fled homes.

Dr Akhtar, a senior health official in Chaman border town of Pakistan, told the Pakistan media that more than 40 people had been injured, with five critically wounded victims sent to Quetta for medical treatment.

The Pakistan Army's media wing said exchange of firing had stopped and Pakistan and Afghan security officials would be meeting on the Chaman crossing for a flag meeting.

Shopkeepers in Chaman city shuttered their shops and residents evacuated homes in Killi Luqman, Killi Jahangir and Badshah Adda Kahol, Killa Abdullah's district police officer (DPO), Sajid Mohmand was quoted as saying.

Security had also been ramped up in Quetta and other parts of Balochistan following the cross-border attack, and additional contingents of the Army and FC had been dispatched to the Pak-Afghan border in Chaman, DawnNews reported, quoting military sources.

The Foreign Office (FO) also summoned the Afghan chargé d'affaires to lodge a protest against the cross-border attack.

The chargé d'affaires was told that the "unprovoked firing by Afghan forces had led to the loss of lives, disrupted the census in areas on the Pakistan side of the border and caused damage to properties," a statement released by the FO said.

A resident of Luqman village, Abdul Shakoor, said the village was on the Afghan side of the border and many Afghans ran businesses in the area bazaar. He said some families remained indoors but others were able to flee.

Earlier, Kandahar police official Ghorzang Afridi told Pajhwok Afghan News the clash erupted at about 4am and accused the Pakistani militia forces of initiating the gun-battle. He claimed the Pakistani forces fired light and heavy weapons targeting the Afghan forces.

Adridi said additional forces had been sent to the border. He said the Afghan forces captured and torched two armoured vehicles of the Pakistani forces.

One Afghan border police was injured in the clash and he had no information about casualties across the border in Balochistan’s Chaman town.

He said Luqman village belonged to Spin Boldak border district of southern Kandahar province, but the Pakistani side considered the village their own.

Afridi said the clash occurred after Pakistan’s population census officials, accompanied by border militia forces, visited the Luqman village to conduct the census, but Afghan border guards prevented their move. In retaliation, he said, the Pakistani forces opened fire at the Afghan forces.

ISPR said the Afghan border guards' opened fire despite the fact that Afghan authorities had been informed in advance about the census exercise in Pakistan and coordination was carried out through diplomatic and military channels.

Foreign Office spokesperson Nafees Zakaria told a weekly briefing in Islamabad that the Afghan authorities had been informed about the on-going census exercise.

"Dialogue is the only political means available to us to establish peace in Afghanistan," Zakaria said

http://www.pajhwok.com/en/2017/05/05/af-pak-border-skirmish-stops-9-dead-42-wounded

I only want the truth. And frankly this report shows the truth more (in addition to their propaganda claims of village being part of their county)

What will happen next. Nothing we will abandone our plan of census and they will win or
We will close our boarder and they will win. As millions of rupees will be wasted in case of destroyed perishables from Pakistani side

Whats needed is political and military strength both absent.... They dont even accept your durand line...thats what our political progress is ?!!

 

[Spring Onion]

I had people a team of journalists visit us in Bajaur in 2009, all of these people you see hosting 9 O'Clock news and the first thing they said was, "Sir yeh ilaqa toh Peshawar say bara door hai". They had some strange notion in their minds that Peshawar falls in the center of a circular FATA and then the rest of KPK comes after.

They NOT journalists; most of them are just anchors who know a shit about these areas. Their situation is the same.

even today the ground and actual work is done by local journalists in KPK while these anchors just come in helis and national air carriers and conduct the interviews in full security after the situation calms down. For example the fact finding was done by local media in even Mashal Khan's murder case while these anchors just came and interviews the family one after the other and claimed credit.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

What did any of this achieve? ANA are just a bunch of thugs.

 

[Major Sam]

Census security teams are not armed for fighting such kind of attacks. And it was not expected that Afghans will stoop to such lows

if m.not mistaken census team.security is provided by army. So how they were not prepared. Or should they need advance notice?
BTW
was it for first time afghan stoop to this low? Or we were in too much delusion of brotherhood which cost us these many lives.
i mean seriously is ut a joke? Doesnt our strategists know wat policies should we have? Afghsn didnt do it first neither it will b last time until our political and military elite will remain wearing bangles. For them civic life is joke.

 

[MM_Haider]

Can you count how many of them have seen the area?

what an absurd logic.