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The Turkish massacres and related excavations, historical documents, etc., carried out by Greece, which received the support of the West in the disintegration process of the Ottoman State. In fact, this was such a great trauma for the Turks that after the Cyprus' 1974 military coup massacres and with the driving force of the EOKA terrorist organization, this was the basic dynamic behind the psychology that led the Turks to decide to intervene. And thank God, with this hard decision, the Turkish trace still exists on the island.
You were talking about the Balkans and then went to Cyprus and EOKA....

Hard decision? It was the chance the Turkish governments had been looking for to grab the island. Greece under political turmoil with Ioannides' at the helm and the leftist students protesting,the Greek Cypriots fighting themselves with EOKA B and Sampson against Makarios...a Cypriot National Guard that was lightly and badly equipped against the Turkish Army. It wasn't that hard of a decision. International community might have "threatened" you a bit,but they did little to nothing to stop the operations.

And of course the heavily pro-American government in Athens,left Cyprus to fight alone. Tragedy for us and for the Turkish Cypriots.
 
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You were talking about the Balkans and then went to Cyprus and EOKA....

Hard decision? It was the chance the Turkish governments had been looking for to grab the island. Greece under political turmoil with Ioannides' at the helm and the leftist students protesting,the Greek Cypriots fighting themselves with EOKA B and Sampson against Makarios...a Cypriot National Guard that was lightly and badly equipped against the Turkish Army. It wasn't that hard of a decision. International community might have "threatened" you a bit,but they did little to nothing to stop the operations.

And of course the heavily pro-American government in Athens,left Cyprus to fight alone. Tragedy for us and for the Turkish Cypriots.

Bro there was considerable violence against Turkish Cypriots before the Turkish invasion, you can't overlook that. And the Cypriot govt was powerless and sometimes complicit in that violence.
 
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Bro there was considerable violence against Turkish Cypriots before the Turkish invasion, you can't overlook that. And the Cypriot govt was powerless and sometimes complicit in that violence.
I know,that's what I told @Huffal earlier,that there was intercommunal violence. Basically,Makarios wanted to make Cyprus a non-aligned country,not in NATO and not in the the Eastern Bloc. Although some say he even wanted to go pro-Soviet.

The fanatically pro-American Ioannides junta who ruled from late 1973 onwards,supported Sampson and EOKA B who wanted Enosis (union with Greece) and it was all chaotic after that.

It was a cycle of violence since the 50's...
 
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LoL...

This is how you people kill, and putting 1 stupid video will not clean your hands of blood :-)






Ther is more and more.....
Do you really want to start posting photos? If I start posting photos of Turkish atrocities here too,where will this lead us? Greek,Armenian and Kurdish victims' photos. Where will this lead? And frankly,I don't know what @dBSPL was thinking when he posted this thread. What's the point? Yes,it's a sad story. But what's the point? To talk about how our people killed each other?
 
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I know,that's what I told @Huffal earlier,that there was intercommunal violence. Basically,Makarios wanted to make Cyprus a non-aligned country,not in NATO and not in the the Eastern Bloc. Although some say he even wanted to go pro-Soviet.

The fanatically pro-American Ioannides junta who ruled from late 1973 onwards,supported Sampson and EOKA B who wanted Enosis (union with Greece) and it was all chaotic after that.

It was a cycle of violence since the 50's...

Makarios was a decent guy, but he also was a Bishop, which is a bit crazy. Bit Cypriots are nice and lovely people, have both Greek and Turkish Cypriot friends, unique and beautiful culture.
LoL...

This is how you people kill, and putting 1 stupid video will not clean your hands of blood :-)

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Ther is more and more.....

These are Martyrs, may the All Mighty Bless them.
 
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This thread is slowly turning into something... Deadly...

Also dudes please refrain from posting photos of dead civillians. I dont want to look at dead kids.
 
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This thread is slowly turning into something... Deadly...

Also dudes please refrain from posting photos of dead civillians. I dont want to look at dead kids.
Concerning the "Bathtub Massacre"...

By Uzay Bulut

Turkey illegally invaded northern Cyprus in 1974. Today, international law and the Cyprus’ sovereignty remain violated as about 43,000 Turkish troops and over 160,000 Turkish settlers remain in the occupied territory. The 1974 Turkish invasion was not planned overnight. Starting in at least the 1950s, Turkey engaged in many acts of violence and propaganda against Cyprus which attempted to justify its invasion and subsequent criminal actions.

One of the more infamous of such incidents is what came to be known as the 1963 bathtub massacre in Nicosia. According to the Turkish narrative, Greek Cypriots brutally murdered the three young children and wife of Turkish major Nihat Ilhan in the bathtub of their house. According to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, the incident happened as follows:

“On the night of December 24, 1963, Greeks raided the house of Major Nihat İlhan in Nicosia. Greek attackers murdered Nihat Ilhan’s three sons, Kutsi, Murat, and Hakan, and his wife Mürüvvet by a shooting spree in their bathtub where they were hiding.”

Hurriyet reported that Ilhan was the doctor of the 650-strong Turkish force in Cyprus, which was called the “Turkish Cypriot Regiment”. Ilhan lost his life in 2016. Hurriyet quoted him as saying:

“When the massacre happened, I hadn’t been home for a few days and hadn’t heard from my family. A Turkish shepherd, who was staying near our house, came and said in the presence of the regiment commander that the Greeks attacked the families of the Turkish officers. We didn’t understand what happened. I immediately wanted to go home, but the regiment commander did not allow me to. The regiment commander asked me to keep calm about what I would experience that day. I still did not realize that my family was murdered. We went to the embassy of Turkey in an armored vehicle. It was filled with the wives of officers and embassy officials. The women were crying.

“I still did not understand that my family was killed… Then the Turkish Ambassador told me: ‘My condolences to you. Your wife and children were killed by the Greeks.’ So it had been 3 days since the massacre and I was just getting news.”

The bathtub massacre has widely been used by Turkish nationalists to generate hostility and mistrust within the Turkish Cypriot community against Greeks and to justify the 1974 Turkish military invasion of Cyprus in the eyes of the international community by portraying Greeks as aggressive and murderous.

However, the truthfulness of the Turkish narrative has been challenged by objective observers and researchers. This includes prominent Turkish Cypriot journalist, Sener Levent.

Levent and his journalistic team at the newspaper Afrika have done extensive investigative journalism on the tragic incident, exposing the inconsistencies and contradictions in the Turkish narrative. Levent published an article about the issue in 2015, which was republished in 2018. In it, Levent exposed that there were several versions of the photo of the bathroom massacre. Referring to the photo of the massacre as the “icon of our political propaganda”, Levent wrote:

“The bathroom slaughter… Three children in their bloodstained little pajamas in a bathtub… And their mother … Is there any human that would not be affected by this? If so, they cannot be regarded as human. The most painful, the most tragic memory of the 1963 Christmas… This photograph travelled the world … All the famous press organizations of the world published it as ‘Greek barbarism’ in Cyprus …Everyone tried to prove the ‘attacks and massacres by Greeks against Turkish Cypriots’ in the island through this photograph the most. We then turned the house where the massacre happened into the ‘Museum of Barbarism’ … We took all our students to that museum and told them about ‘Greek barbarism’. And we are still doing that.

“In recent years, we have covered this topic widely. We opened an [investigation] file into the massacre. We started digging deep into it, for there were questions on the minds of the people that were left unanswered. And there were all kinds of rumors out there about the incident. But some people did not like the fact that we were investigating the incident. Some were angry and attacked us by calling us ‘traitors’ as usual. As we further investigated the incident, some unknown facts came out. For example, there were other versions of that famous photo, the icon of propaganda.

“So the victims were not murdered the way it looked. They were made to “look” like that so that the propaganda would be more effective. And we think that it was Ömer Samih Coşar, a journalist from Turkey, who did it. Ömer Samih Coşar, who was an expert on Cyprus and a reporter for the newspaper ‘Milliyet’, operated more like a Turkish intelligence officer on duty than a journalist. Nobody could come out and explain to us why such a scene [in the bathroom] was made.

“However, when our news reports progressed and reached Turkey as well, the [Turkish] nationalists brought the sad Major Ilhan to Cyprus forty years after [the incident]. They also got him to talk on TV channels, but I guess they later regretted having brought him here… He said they [Turks] brought a Greek captive woman and a man to the Turkish Embassy so that he’d kill them and avenge his wife and children. They gave him a gun and told him to kill them and get revenge. He said that the Greek woman was pregnant and that he did not kill them.

“Today we are publishing a photo about the bathroom massacre that has not been published anywhere before. For the first time in our press and in the world. We hope that this photo will contribute to the further enlightening of the facts. Take a good look at the photo and at the bathroom. Is there any blood stain in the bathtub? No. Where are the bodies? Outside of the bathtub, next to it. Is that how they [the victims] would have looked if they had been massacred in the bathtub?

“I asked six questions in my recently published article entitled ‘The secrets of the bloody bathroom’. I’m repeating once again the questions that need to be answered.

“Question one:

“Is it not weird that the mother was lying on the bottom and the kids were on top of her? Would a mother rushing to protect her kids not try to cover and guard them?

“Question two:

“It is said that the shot child’s brain squirted and stuck to the wall. For one’s brain to jump out, one must be shot in the head from a close range and with a gun to the chin. But Major Ilhan said that he washed the corpses of his children with his own hands and none of them had been shot in the head. So why are they [Turkish nationalists] still lying that the child’s brain popped out and stuck to the wall?

“Question three:

“There is serious evidence that the massacre was not committed in the bathroom. And there are photos taken outside of the bathroom. So who took the bodies and put them in the bathroom? And why did they do it?

“Question four:

“There are multiple versions of the propaganda icon-photo. Photos that show the kids in different stances inside the bathtub. Who staged that? Don’t you want to know who are those that are so vile to have played with child corpses for propaganda purposes?

“Question five:

“There are those who survived the slaughter house. And some are still alive. But somehow, they never speak about it. Why? Who are they scared of? Would they be in trouble if they spoke up? Have they been threatened? This is a secret too. Have you ever seen a Turkish Cypriot scared of talking about ‘a massacre committed by Greeks’? I never have.

“Question six:

“The bathroom massacre was covered by the local media three days after it happened. Back then there were only two newspapers – “Halkin Sesi” [Voice of the People] and “Bozkurt” [Grey Wolf]. While other news was covered immediately, why was the coverage of the massacre delayed so much?

“Those who are angry at us for digging deep into the bloody bathroom incident should stop calling us ‘traitors’ and explain these things to us. The most important one is the photo we publish today. Why are they lying when none of the kids were shot in the head and their brains were not stuck on the wall? Why are they saying untrue things such as ‘the massacre was committed in the bathtub’? Most importantly, why do they need these lies? They must explain these things to us.

“We have been fed with lies until today. Mosques were bombed. They lied about it and said ‘Greeks did it’. The Turkish News Bureau affiliated with the embassy was bombed. They lied about it. Two Turkish lawyers were slaughtered one night. They lied about it. A bullet was shot at the Atatürk statue. They lied about it. They lied even when they bombed us. They said ‘they bombed themselves’. After they have told us so many lies, how can we believe what they say about the bathroom massacre?”

The questions Levent asks about the bathtub massacre still remain unanswered. What is obvious is the extremely inconsistent narrative Turkish nationalists invented concerning the murders of the innocent kids and the wife of the Turkish Major.

Perhaps the most significant question that comes to mind after investigating thebathtub massacre is the following: If Turkish state authorities are capable of killing even their own people for political or propaganda purposes, is there any limit to the atrocities they could commit against Greeks and other non-Turks that they consider to be their enemies?


You can also read this article and draw conclusions:


Israeli-style tactics...

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Concerning the "Bathtub Massacre"...

By Uzay Bulut

Turkey illegally invaded northern Cyprus in 1974. Today, international law and the Cyprus’ sovereignty remain violated as about 43,000 Turkish troops and over 160,000 Turkish settlers remain in the occupied territory. The 1974 Turkish invasion was not planned overnight. Starting in at least the 1950s, Turkey engaged in many acts of violence and propaganda against Cyprus which attempted to justify its invasion and subsequent criminal actions.

One of the more infamous of such incidents is what came to be known as the 1963 bathtub massacre in Nicosia. According to the Turkish narrative, Greek Cypriots brutally murdered the three young children and wife of Turkish major Nihat Ilhan in the bathtub of their house. According to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, the incident happened as follows:

“On the night of December 24, 1963, Greeks raided the house of Major Nihat İlhan in Nicosia. Greek attackers murdered Nihat Ilhan’s three sons, Kutsi, Murat, and Hakan, and his wife Mürüvvet by a shooting spree in their bathtub where they were hiding.”

Hurriyet reported that Ilhan was the doctor of the 650-strong Turkish force in Cyprus, which was called the “Turkish Cypriot Regiment”. Ilhan lost his life in 2016. Hurriyet quoted him as saying:

“When the massacre happened, I hadn’t been home for a few days and hadn’t heard from my family. A Turkish shepherd, who was staying near our house, came and said in the presence of the regiment commander that the Greeks attacked the families of the Turkish officers. We didn’t understand what happened. I immediately wanted to go home, but the regiment commander did not allow me to. The regiment commander asked me to keep calm about what I would experience that day. I still did not realize that my family was murdered. We went to the embassy of Turkey in an armored vehicle. It was filled with the wives of officers and embassy officials. The women were crying.

“I still did not understand that my family was killed… Then the Turkish Ambassador told me: ‘My condolences to you. Your wife and children were killed by the Greeks.’ So it had been 3 days since the massacre and I was just getting news.”

The bathtub massacre has widely been used by Turkish nationalists to generate hostility and mistrust within the Turkish Cypriot community against Greeks and to justify the 1974 Turkish military invasion of Cyprus in the eyes of the international community by portraying Greeks as aggressive and murderous.

However, the truthfulness of the Turkish narrative has been challenged by objective observers and researchers. This includes prominent Turkish Cypriot journalist, Sener Levent.

Levent and his journalistic team at the newspaper Afrika have done extensive investigative journalism on the tragic incident, exposing the inconsistencies and contradictions in the Turkish narrative. Levent published an article about the issue in 2015, which was republished in 2018. In it, Levent exposed that there were several versions of the photo of the bathroom massacre. Referring to the photo of the massacre as the “icon of our political propaganda”, Levent wrote:

“The bathroom slaughter… Three children in their bloodstained little pajamas in a bathtub… And their mother … Is there any human that would not be affected by this? If so, they cannot be regarded as human. The most painful, the most tragic memory of the 1963 Christmas… This photograph travelled the world … All the famous press organizations of the world published it as ‘Greek barbarism’ in Cyprus …Everyone tried to prove the ‘attacks and massacres by Greeks against Turkish Cypriots’ in the island through this photograph the most. We then turned the house where the massacre happened into the ‘Museum of Barbarism’ … We took all our students to that museum and told them about ‘Greek barbarism’. And we are still doing that.

“In recent years, we have covered this topic widely. We opened an [investigation] file into the massacre. We started digging deep into it, for there were questions on the minds of the people that were left unanswered. And there were all kinds of rumors out there about the incident. But some people did not like the fact that we were investigating the incident. Some were angry and attacked us by calling us ‘traitors’ as usual. As we further investigated the incident, some unknown facts came out. For example, there were other versions of that famous photo, the icon of propaganda.

“So the victims were not murdered the way it looked. They were made to “look” like that so that the propaganda would be more effective. And we think that it was Ömer Samih Coşar, a journalist from Turkey, who did it. Ömer Samih Coşar, who was an expert on Cyprus and a reporter for the newspaper ‘Milliyet’, operated more like a Turkish intelligence officer on duty than a journalist. Nobody could come out and explain to us why such a scene [in the bathroom] was made.

“However, when our news reports progressed and reached Turkey as well, the [Turkish] nationalists brought the sad Major Ilhan to Cyprus forty years after [the incident]. They also got him to talk on TV channels, but I guess they later regretted having brought him here… He said they [Turks] brought a Greek captive woman and a man to the Turkish Embassy so that he’d kill them and avenge his wife and children. They gave him a gun and told him to kill them and get revenge. He said that the Greek woman was pregnant and that he did not kill them.

“Today we are publishing a photo about the bathroom massacre that has not been published anywhere before. For the first time in our press and in the world. We hope that this photo will contribute to the further enlightening of the facts. Take a good look at the photo and at the bathroom. Is there any blood stain in the bathtub? No. Where are the bodies? Outside of the bathtub, next to it. Is that how they [the victims] would have looked if they had been massacred in the bathtub?

“I asked six questions in my recently published article entitled ‘The secrets of the bloody bathroom’. I’m repeating once again the questions that need to be answered.

“Question one:

“Is it not weird that the mother was lying on the bottom and the kids were on top of her? Would a mother rushing to protect her kids not try to cover and guard them?

“Question two:

“It is said that the shot child’s brain squirted and stuck to the wall. For one’s brain to jump out, one must be shot in the head from a close range and with a gun to the chin. But Major Ilhan said that he washed the corpses of his children with his own hands and none of them had been shot in the head. So why are they [Turkish nationalists] still lying that the child’s brain popped out and stuck to the wall?

“Question three:

“There is serious evidence that the massacre was not committed in the bathroom. And there are photos taken outside of the bathroom. So who took the bodies and put them in the bathroom? And why did they do it?

“Question four:

“There are multiple versions of the propaganda icon-photo. Photos that show the kids in different stances inside the bathtub. Who staged that? Don’t you want to know who are those that are so vile to have played with child corpses for propaganda purposes?

“Question five:

“There are those who survived the slaughter house. And some are still alive. But somehow, they never speak about it. Why? Who are they scared of? Would they be in trouble if they spoke up? Have they been threatened? This is a secret too. Have you ever seen a Turkish Cypriot scared of talking about ‘a massacre committed by Greeks’? I never have.

“Question six:

“The bathroom massacre was covered by the local media three days after it happened. Back then there were only two newspapers – “Halkin Sesi” [Voice of the People] and “Bozkurt” [Grey Wolf]. While other news was covered immediately, why was the coverage of the massacre delayed so much?

“Those who are angry at us for digging deep into the bloody bathroom incident should stop calling us ‘traitors’ and explain these things to us. The most important one is the photo we publish today. Why are they lying when none of the kids were shot in the head and their brains were not stuck on the wall? Why are they saying untrue things such as ‘the massacre was committed in the bathtub’? Most importantly, why do they need these lies? They must explain these things to us.

“We have been fed with lies until today. Mosques were bombed. They lied about it and said ‘Greeks did it’. The Turkish News Bureau affiliated with the embassy was bombed. They lied about it. Two Turkish lawyers were slaughtered one night. They lied about it. A bullet was shot at the Atatürk statue. They lied about it. They lied even when they bombed us. They said ‘they bombed themselves’. After they have told us so many lies, how can we believe what they say about the bathroom massacre?”

The questions Levent asks about the bathtub massacre still remain unanswered. What is obvious is the extremely inconsistent narrative Turkish nationalists invented concerning the murders of the innocent kids and the wife of the Turkish Major.

Perhaps the most significant question that comes to mind after investigating thebathtub massacre is the following: If Turkish state authorities are capable of killing even their own people for political or propaganda purposes, is there any limit to the atrocities they could commit against Greeks and other non-Turks that they consider to be their enemies?


You can also read this article and draw conclusions:


Israeli-style tactics...

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Dude... This topic is beyond me.

Im gonna stick to pak indo stuff. Turkey greek stuff can be handled by the turks and greeks.
 
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Concerning the "Bathtub Massacre"...

By Uzay Bulut

Turkey illegally invaded northern Cyprus in 1974. Today, international law and the Cyprus’ sovereignty remain violated as about 43,000 Turkish troops and over 160,000 Turkish settlers remain in the occupied territory. The 1974 Turkish invasion was not planned overnight. Starting in at least the 1950s, Turkey engaged in many acts of violence and propaganda against Cyprus which attempted to justify its invasion and subsequent criminal actions.

One of the more infamous of such incidents is what came to be known as the 1963 bathtub massacre in Nicosia. According to the Turkish narrative, Greek Cypriots brutally murdered the three young children and wife of Turkish major Nihat Ilhan in the bathtub of their house. According to the Turkish newspaper Hurriyet, the incident happened as follows:

“On the night of December 24, 1963, Greeks raided the house of Major Nihat İlhan in Nicosia. Greek attackers murdered Nihat Ilhan’s three sons, Kutsi, Murat, and Hakan, and his wife Mürüvvet by a shooting spree in their bathtub where they were hiding.”

Hurriyet reported that Ilhan was the doctor of the 650-strong Turkish force in Cyprus, which was called the “Turkish Cypriot Regiment”. Ilhan lost his life in 2016. Hurriyet quoted him as saying:

“When the massacre happened, I hadn’t been home for a few days and hadn’t heard from my family. A Turkish shepherd, who was staying near our house, came and said in the presence of the regiment commander that the Greeks attacked the families of the Turkish officers. We didn’t understand what happened. I immediately wanted to go home, but the regiment commander did not allow me to. The regiment commander asked me to keep calm about what I would experience that day. I still did not realize that my family was murdered. We went to the embassy of Turkey in an armored vehicle. It was filled with the wives of officers and embassy officials. The women were crying.

“I still did not understand that my family was killed… Then the Turkish Ambassador told me: ‘My condolences to you. Your wife and children were killed by the Greeks.’ So it had been 3 days since the massacre and I was just getting news.”

The bathtub massacre has widely been used by Turkish nationalists to generate hostility and mistrust within the Turkish Cypriot community against Greeks and to justify the 1974 Turkish military invasion of Cyprus in the eyes of the international community by portraying Greeks as aggressive and murderous.

However, the truthfulness of the Turkish narrative has been challenged by objective observers and researchers. This includes prominent Turkish Cypriot journalist, Sener Levent.

Levent and his journalistic team at the newspaper Afrika have done extensive investigative journalism on the tragic incident, exposing the inconsistencies and contradictions in the Turkish narrative. Levent published an article about the issue in 2015, which was republished in 2018. In it, Levent exposed that there were several versions of the photo of the bathroom massacre. Referring to the photo of the massacre as the “icon of our political propaganda”, Levent wrote:

“The bathroom slaughter… Three children in their bloodstained little pajamas in a bathtub… And their mother … Is there any human that would not be affected by this? If so, they cannot be regarded as human. The most painful, the most tragic memory of the 1963 Christmas… This photograph travelled the world … All the famous press organizations of the world published it as ‘Greek barbarism’ in Cyprus …Everyone tried to prove the ‘attacks and massacres by Greeks against Turkish Cypriots’ in the island through this photograph the most. We then turned the house where the massacre happened into the ‘Museum of Barbarism’ … We took all our students to that museum and told them about ‘Greek barbarism’. And we are still doing that.

“In recent years, we have covered this topic widely. We opened an [investigation] file into the massacre. We started digging deep into it, for there were questions on the minds of the people that were left unanswered. And there were all kinds of rumors out there about the incident. But some people did not like the fact that we were investigating the incident. Some were angry and attacked us by calling us ‘traitors’ as usual. As we further investigated the incident, some unknown facts came out. For example, there were other versions of that famous photo, the icon of propaganda.

“So the victims were not murdered the way it looked. They were made to “look” like that so that the propaganda would be more effective. And we think that it was Ömer Samih Coşar, a journalist from Turkey, who did it. Ömer Samih Coşar, who was an expert on Cyprus and a reporter for the newspaper ‘Milliyet’, operated more like a Turkish intelligence officer on duty than a journalist. Nobody could come out and explain to us why such a scene [in the bathroom] was made.

“However, when our news reports progressed and reached Turkey as well, the [Turkish] nationalists brought the sad Major Ilhan to Cyprus forty years after [the incident]. They also got him to talk on TV channels, but I guess they later regretted having brought him here… He said they [Turks] brought a Greek captive woman and a man to the Turkish Embassy so that he’d kill them and avenge his wife and children. They gave him a gun and told him to kill them and get revenge. He said that the Greek woman was pregnant and that he did not kill them.

“Today we are publishing a photo about the bathroom massacre that has not been published anywhere before. For the first time in our press and in the world. We hope that this photo will contribute to the further enlightening of the facts. Take a good look at the photo and at the bathroom. Is there any blood stain in the bathtub? No. Where are the bodies? Outside of the bathtub, next to it. Is that how they [the victims] would have looked if they had been massacred in the bathtub?

“I asked six questions in my recently published article entitled ‘The secrets of the bloody bathroom’. I’m repeating once again the questions that need to be answered.

“Question one:

“Is it not weird that the mother was lying on the bottom and the kids were on top of her? Would a mother rushing to protect her kids not try to cover and guard them?

“Question two:

“It is said that the shot child’s brain squirted and stuck to the wall. For one’s brain to jump out, one must be shot in the head from a close range and with a gun to the chin. But Major Ilhan said that he washed the corpses of his children with his own hands and none of them had been shot in the head. So why are they [Turkish nationalists] still lying that the child’s brain popped out and stuck to the wall?

“Question three:

“There is serious evidence that the massacre was not committed in the bathroom. And there are photos taken outside of the bathroom. So who took the bodies and put them in the bathroom? And why did they do it?

“Question four:

“There are multiple versions of the propaganda icon-photo. Photos that show the kids in different stances inside the bathtub. Who staged that? Don’t you want to know who are those that are so vile to have played with child corpses for propaganda purposes?

“Question five:

“There are those who survived the slaughter house. And some are still alive. But somehow, they never speak about it. Why? Who are they scared of? Would they be in trouble if they spoke up? Have they been threatened? This is a secret too. Have you ever seen a Turkish Cypriot scared of talking about ‘a massacre committed by Greeks’? I never have.

“Question six:

“The bathroom massacre was covered by the local media three days after it happened. Back then there were only two newspapers – “Halkin Sesi” [Voice of the People] and “Bozkurt” [Grey Wolf]. While other news was covered immediately, why was the coverage of the massacre delayed so much?

“Those who are angry at us for digging deep into the bloody bathroom incident should stop calling us ‘traitors’ and explain these things to us. The most important one is the photo we publish today. Why are they lying when none of the kids were shot in the head and their brains were not stuck on the wall? Why are they saying untrue things such as ‘the massacre was committed in the bathtub’? Most importantly, why do they need these lies? They must explain these things to us.

“We have been fed with lies until today. Mosques were bombed. They lied about it and said ‘Greeks did it’. The Turkish News Bureau affiliated with the embassy was bombed. They lied about it. Two Turkish lawyers were slaughtered one night. They lied about it. A bullet was shot at the Atatürk statue. They lied about it. They lied even when they bombed us. They said ‘they bombed themselves’. After they have told us so many lies, how can we believe what they say about the bathroom massacre?”

The questions Levent asks about the bathtub massacre still remain unanswered. What is obvious is the extremely inconsistent narrative Turkish nationalists invented concerning the murders of the innocent kids and the wife of the Turkish Major.

Perhaps the most significant question that comes to mind after investigating thebathtub massacre is the following: If Turkish state authorities are capable of killing even their own people for political or propaganda purposes, is there any limit to the atrocities they could commit against Greeks and other non-Turks that they consider to be their enemies?


You can also read this article and draw conclusions:


Israeli-style tactics...

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Bro so you are saying all the Turkish civilians massacred was fake, bro they are documented Greek Cypriot war crimes. I am disappointed in you, sound like those holocaust deniers conspiracy theorists.

Hundreds of Turkish civilians were massacred before the invasion.
 
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Bro so you are saying all the Turkish civilians massacred was fake, bro they are documented Greek Cypriot war crimes. I am disappointed in you, sound like those holocaust deniers conspiracy theorists.

Hundreds of Turkish civilians were massacred before the invasion.
Bro,no bro. Not all,bro. There were atrocities on both sides. But not everything is true. You know that Israelis followed a tactic sometimes in Lebanon,placing bombs to cause sectarian violence,back in the 70s and 80s? I know Pakistanis are very pro-Turkish,but Turks aren't always the "good guys",like in Ertugrul ;)
 
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Bro,no bro. Not all,bro. There were atrocities on both sides. But not everything is true. You know that Israelis followed a tactic sometimes in Lebanon,placing bombs to cause sectarian violence,back in the 70s and 80s? I know Pakistanis are very pro-Turkish,but Turks aren't always the "good guys",like in Ertugrul ;)
Turks in Ertugrul are Ottomans. They arent the same as the Turkish today
 
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Bro,no bro. Not all,bro. There were atrocities on both sides. But not everything is true. You know that Israelis followed a tactic sometimes in Lebanon,placing bombs to cause sectarian violence,back in the 70s and 80s? I know Pakistanis are very pro-Turkish,but Turks aren't always the "good guys",like in Ertugrul ;)

Turkey is a brother an an ally, but we don't consider Greece an enemy. In fact we have a Greek link as we had a Pakistani Greek Kingdom in our history.

Plus Turks and Greeks are lovely people and have much culture in common, other than religion. If you take the politics out both Turkey and Greece are a force for good in the Med and the world.

I am a well-wisher for sorting out the political crap in a win win situation.
 
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But modern Turks descend from the Ottomans
Turkey is not the same as it was before. If they want to restore their former glory of the ottoman empire then they must not just look at military strength. There is more than meets the eye when it comes to it...
 
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Turkey is not the same as it was before. If they want to restore their former glory of the ottoman empire then they must not just look at military strength. There is more than meets the eye when it comes to it...
Eh,they could have been happy and content with being Kemalists,but a certain leader wanted to take them on adventures in other countries,much like certain leaders of the 1930s and 1940s...who ended up losing what they had,because they wanted more.
 
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