11 Arab Countries Take On NASA, Launch Own Space Program

[Sheikh Rauf]

What happened in the past is past now. They are our brothers and we should invite them towards the guidance and message of Islam as preached and practiced by the Holy Prophet (ﷺ)

We are definatily with our muslim either its from africa europe asia or anywhere under the flag of islam. Its some stupid who divide and make other muslims feels like they are lower than any other muslim.

Step by step.. KSA already got the tech for the second stage of a launcher. so launchers are coming soon too..


He is talking about the Arabs who went far away..

I know brother its him who doesnt make sence to himself.. if you read previous poats.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Well heavily is a too strong word for the Iranian influence..it is rather weak; in Syria the heavy weight is Russia, Iran plays a third role after Bashar.. in Lebanon they are friends with Hizbullah; a political party in Lebanon among many either supported byArabs or France and Europe _ I am talking about the Lebanese Christians here!_.. and with Houthis in Yemen they control 15% of the territory.. I won't call that heavily, only if you don't see the other side's strengths.. Iran will get a beating if it attacks Arabs, it knows it, but for Arabs, there is no point of fighting with a loser..that has nothing to lose.. would you fight with a bad homeless guy on the street if he provokes you continually while you have a decent life that you might lose even if you know you can beat the sh*t out of him..or even kill him?


Well, for Arabs (like a body) they go hand in hand.. since for The biggest majority of Arabs, being Arab and Muslim are synonymous..


There are very prominent Arabs working in NASA..if you did not know it already..

Iranians too. At the end of day they are Americans. They wont be given clearance to work for another govt space agency even after retirement.

 

[The SC]

Iranians too. At the end of day they are Americans. They wont be given clearance to work for another govt space agency even after retirement.

Yes I know about those contracts in the US.. but the news is talking about Arab space scientists who live in the Arab world and already make satellites..meaning they all have extensive experience that will now be gathered to make a special first satellite in 3 years.. after that there are going to be more satellites..

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Millions of bharti hindus are living and earning the livelihood in Muslim countries and serving their Muslim masters and you seem to be okay with that. While they harbour animosity against Islam & Muslims.


Pakistan already has developed a working model for an SLV based on the resource available to us but due to financial limitation, the establishment diverted that money towards more urgent missile development programs.

Nope. That's your interpretation. And we dont badmouth the land we are living and earning in like your counterparts in your west do. Hating, badmouthing the land they live and learn and say Muslims in India or Pakistan should live like this. You would have never been brought up with a single Hindu in your whole life. But in India we have Muslim classfriends, colleagues and 2 of my besties are Muslims. The problem comes with their Muslim leaders and clergy who are hell bent on promoting radicalism for vote purpose.

Here for example Triple Talaq which is banned in Pakistan. And Nikah halala or divorce rules or age of marriage etc Pakistanis are living in west and accepting those "secular" rules while advocating those remain in India. What kinda hypocrisy is that? You explain.

Yes I know about those contracts in the US.. but the news is talking about Arab space scientists who live in the Arab world and already make satellites..meaning they all have extensive experience that will now be gathered to make a special first satellite in 3 years.. after that there are going to be more satellites..

I do not say they do not have talents. This was response to a guy who hated India and wants their so called ASA to challange NASA/ESA without building any sufficient capacity in a short period.

 

[war&peace]

Nope. That's your interpretation. And we dont badmouth the land we are living and earning in like your counterparts in your west do. Hating, badmouthing the land they live and learn and say Muslims in India or Pakistan should live like this. You would have never been brought up with a single Hindu in your whole life. But in India we have Muslim classfriends, colleagues and 2 of my besties are Muslims. The problem comes with their Muslim leaders and clergy who are hell bent on promoting radicalism for vote purpose.

Here for example Triple Talaq which is banned in Pakistan. And Nikah halala or divorce rules or age of marriage etc Pakistanis are living in west and accepting those "secular" rules while advocating those remain in India. What kinda hypocrisy is that? You explain.

@Khafee can you explain how many Gangadeshis have been kicked out of UAE for openly barking against Muslims and Islam.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

@Khafee can you explain how many Gangadeshis have been kicked out of UAE for openly barking against Muslims and Islam.

Care to respond for the rest of my post? Or yea somehow managed to skip skillfully like most hypocratic muslims do?

For few people kicked out (Yes I know people had been fired from jobs for speaking against Islam), lots of people are hired in. Yes, "Indians, Bharatvasis" are mostly preferred and hired wrt Pakistanis. Thanks to their attitude.

See Dubai's police chief's tweet or interview for reference.

 

[Indos]

@The SC @Indos @Hakikat ve Hikmet @rambro
My vision is an OIC Space Agency with all OIC members countries participating in various capacities while Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan and GCC countries playing the leading role while we can seek cooperation from China, West and/or Russia.

I can say that we need to improve our cooperation in many field. Starting from cooperation between 2-3 countries first. Indonesia and Turkey, for instant, have started with several joint program like medium tank, Male UAV, and N245 passenger aircraft.

I think OIC space agency is not really effective, I think it is better if some countries who have mastered on some thing give assistance on other countries who are still not yet reach that level. Pakistan for instant can help Indonesia on its rocket program. Of course there should be some thing that Indonesia give to Pakistan back.

Turkish-Indonesian Medium Tank

 

[Philip the Arab]

Yes I know about those contracts in the US.. but the news is talking about Arab space scientists who live in the Arab world and already make satellites..meaning they all have extensive experience that will now be gathered to make a special first satellite in 3 years.. after that there are going to be more satellites..

Yeah, I agree especially those who interned at NASA and ESA. There are many students who wish they could make bigger satellites like Jordanian students for example. In the future though the costd should be split among all states in my opinion.

 

[zectech]

Egypt's former president (who worked for NASA) could have been a scientist on this project, but the Westerner did not like him and had him killed. Don't ever go for CIA colored revolution again. If they didn't, Morsi would be working on this as we write.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Egypt's former president (who worked for NASA) could have been a scientist on this project, but the Westerner did not like him and had him killed. Don't ever go for CIA colored revolution again. If they didn't, Morsi would be working on this as we write.

MB supporter?

 

[The SC]

Yeah, I agree especially those who interned at NASA and ESA. There are many students who wish they could make bigger satellites like Jordanian students for example. In the future though the costd should be split among all states in my opinion.

Agree..and the best part is when each country will start make specific components of the satellites to be assembled in one centre..

 

[war&peace]

I can say that we need to improve our cooperation in many field. Starting from cooperation between 2-3 countries first. Indonesia and Turkey, for instant, have started with several joint program like medium tank, Male UAV, and N245 passenger aircraft.

I think OIC space agency is not really effective, I think it is better if some countries who have mastered on some thing give assistance on other countries who are still not yet reach that level. Pakistan for instant can help Indonesia on its rocket program. Of course there should be some thing that Indonesia give to Pakistan back.

Turkish-Indonesian Medium Tank

Looks nice.. what the specs ?

Yes that is why I said there should be a core of leading countries. Pakistan has a lot experience in building various ballistic missiles both with solid and liquid motors. As I said Pakistan has a working design of an SLV but the project for shelved due to the lack of funds. If Muslim countries provide the funds then Pakistan can jump start the project and

Does Pakistan have its own rockets? You rely on Chinese rockets. We can launch from Ukranian rockets, Russian rockets, Chinese rockets, Japanese rockets, etc.

We have many options for TOT from Ukraine, and any nation who is developing launch capabilities including Pakistan.

Don't be such a troll. Pakistan develops its own solid and liquid rockets. China does not provide any ballistic missile to Pakistan...Ever heard about MTCR and I'm sure an ignorant like you don't know anything about it.

 

[Philip the Arab]

Looks nice.. what the specs ?

Yes that is why I said there should be a core of leading countries. Pakistan has a lot experience in building various ballistic missiles both with solid and liquid motors. As I said Pakistan has a working design of an SLV but the project for shelved due to the lack of funds. If Muslim countries provide the funds then Pakistan can jump start the project and

Don't be such a troll. Pakistan develops its own solid and liquid rockets. China does not provide any ballistic missile to Pakistan...Ever heard about MTCR and I'm sure an ignorant like you don't know anything about it.

They provide help m8. I can give you proof if you like... Even Turkey recieved help on their BMs.

Lol China isnt in the mtcr.

 

[Indos]

Looks nice.. what the specs ?

Yes that is why I said there should be a core of leading countries. Pakistan has a lot experience in building various ballistic missiles both with solid and liquid motors. As I said Pakistan has a working design of an SLV but the project for shelved due to the lack of funds. If Muslim countries provide the funds then Pakistan can jump start the project and

KAPLAN MT is a modern medium-weight tank being developed jointly by FNSS and PT Pindad. It is designed to offer high lethality in combination with superior tactical mobility.

The first prototype of the Kaplan MT tank was exhibited during the 13th International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) 2017 held in Istanbul in May. The tank made its public presence in Indonesia during a military parade on National Armed Forces Day in October.

KAPLAN MT design and features
The layout of the Kaplan MT tank resembles a standard main battle tank (MBT) with the driver at the centre of forward hull, turret in the middle and crew, as well as power-pack at the rear of the hull.

The interior has been designed with major emphasis on crew ergonomics and various tactical and battlefield conditions such as driving, firing and loading / off-loading of ammunition. The driver’s position offers an enhanced field of view and convenient access to control panel and driving instruments.

Crew enter / exit the vehicle through single-piece hatch covers mounted on the roof of the hull. The gunner and commander are provided with sighting systems for observation during the day / night, while the commander’s position is installed with a panoramic sight.

The KAPLAN MT is also equipped with a battlefield management system (BMS), a wireless crew intercom system, a navigation system and an automatic fire extinguishing system.

Armament aboard the medium-weight tank
The tank is fitted with CMI Cockerill 3105 turret mounting a Cockerill 105mm high-pressure gun. The lightweight gun features an advanced autoloader to deliver rapid fire-power.

The 105mm gun can fire NATO-standard 105mm ammunition and can engage targets at a maximum distance of 10km. The secondary weapon system includes a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun mounted to the left side of the main gun.

Self-protection features of KAPLAN MT
The MMWT provides STANAG 4569 Level 4 ballistic protection against 14.5mm armoured projectiles and 155mm shell splinters. It can withstand the explosion of 10kg TNT under the track and bottom of the hull.

The tank can be hinged with add-on armour to increase the protection to STANAG 4569 Level 5 to sustain damage from 25mm armour piercing discarding sabot-tracer (APDS-T) rounds.

The KAPLAN MT is also fitted with smoke grenade dischargers, a chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) protection system and a laser warning system for increased survivability against hostile threats.

Engine and mobility
The vehicle is powered by a new-generation diesel engine coupled to a fully automatic electronic controlled transmission. It offers a power-to-weight ratio of 20hp/t, based on the configuration of protection system. The fuel is supplied from two separate fuel tanks.

The power-pack is equipped with a cooling pack integrating an intelligent software-controlled hydraulic fan for improved torque and fuel economy. The auxiliary power unit aboard the tank will enable the operation of turret without the need for power from the engine. The advanced battery monitoring system further enables optimum power management.

The anti-shock suspension system of KAPLAN MT features torsion bars with double pinned tracks offering high mobility on both urban environments and cross country conditions. Each side of the track includes six dual rubber-tired road wheels with the forward drive sprocket, idler and track-return rollers. The vehicle can operate in extreme temperatures ranging between -32°C and 55°C.

The tank has a maximum road speed of 70km/h and a minimum operating range of 450km. It can negotiate a gradient and side slopes of 60% and 30% respectively. It can climb a vertical obstacle of 0.9m and can cross a trench of 2m.

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/kaplan-mt-modern-medium-weight-tank/

 

[Philip the Arab]

KAPLAN MT is a modern medium-weight tank being developed jointly by FNSS and PT Pindad. It is designed to offer high lethality in combination with superior tactical mobility.

The first prototype of the Kaplan MT tank was exhibited during the 13th International Defence Industry Fair (IDEF) 2017 held in Istanbul in May. The tank made its public presence in Indonesia during a military parade on National Armed Forces Day in October.

KAPLAN MT design and features
The layout of the Kaplan MT tank resembles a standard main battle tank (MBT) with the driver at the centre of forward hull, turret in the middle and crew, as well as power-pack at the rear of the hull.

The interior has been designed with major emphasis on crew ergonomics and various tactical and battlefield conditions such as driving, firing and loading / off-loading of ammunition. The driver’s position offers an enhanced field of view and convenient access to control panel and driving instruments.

Crew enter / exit the vehicle through single-piece hatch covers mounted on the roof of the hull. The gunner and commander are provided with sighting systems for observation during the day / night, while the commander’s position is installed with a panoramic sight.

The KAPLAN MT is also equipped with a battlefield management system (BMS), a wireless crew intercom system, a navigation system and an automatic fire extinguishing system.

Armament aboard the medium-weight tank
The tank is fitted with CMI Cockerill 3105 turret mounting a Cockerill 105mm high-pressure gun. The lightweight gun features an advanced autoloader to deliver rapid fire-power.

The 105mm gun can fire NATO-standard 105mm ammunition and can engage targets at a maximum distance of 10km. The secondary weapon system includes a 7.62mm coaxial machine gun mounted to the left side of the main gun.

Self-protection features of KAPLAN MT
The MMWT provides STANAG 4569 Level 4 ballistic protection against 14.5mm armoured projectiles and 155mm shell splinters. It can withstand the explosion of 10kg TNT under the track and bottom of the hull.

The tank can be hinged with add-on armour to increase the protection to STANAG 4569 Level 5 to sustain damage from 25mm armour piercing discarding sabot-tracer (APDS-T) rounds.

The KAPLAN MT is also fitted with smoke grenade dischargers, a chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) protection system and a laser warning system for increased survivability against hostile threats.

Engine and mobility
The vehicle is powered by a new-generation diesel engine coupled to a fully automatic electronic controlled transmission. It offers a power-to-weight ratio of 20hp/t, based on the configuration of protection system. The fuel is supplied from two separate fuel tanks.

The power-pack is equipped with a cooling pack integrating an intelligent software-controlled hydraulic fan for improved torque and fuel economy. The auxiliary power unit aboard the tank will enable the operation of turret without the need for power from the engine. The advanced battery monitoring system further enables optimum power management.

The anti-shock suspension system of KAPLAN MT features torsion bars with double pinned tracks offering high mobility on both urban environments and cross country conditions. Each side of the track includes six dual rubber-tired road wheels with the forward drive sprocket, idler and track-return rollers. The vehicle can operate in extreme temperatures ranging between -32°C and 55°C.

The tank has a maximum road speed of 70km/h and a minimum operating range of 450km. It can negotiate a gradient and side slopes of 60% and 30% respectively. It can climb a vertical obstacle of 0.9m and can cross a trench of 2m.

https://www.army-technology.com/projects/kaplan-mt-modern-medium-weight-tank/

It really needs an APS. Pretty much any modern ATGM can take it out in a hit or two.