11 Arab Countries Take On NASA, Launch Own Space Program

[Indos]

I think we(Pakistan) can do everything related to launch platforms i.e SLVs ourselves if UAE is ready to pour money.

If I remember correctly, We signed space cooperation agreement with UAE in recent past but I don't know what we are doing after signing MoUs.

I hope Pakistan can help Indonesia rocket program.

 

[Shane]

Lol fyi i have seen many members on this forum boasting off their martial races being the ones who fought for British in the world war lol
Who was Mir jafar?who were the pawns of the British and the French in the carnatic wars?
Werent the "martial" races of current Pakistan that won British world war 2?
Didnt your army chief paid respects to those who fought for the british from current Pakistan?
Indian subcontinent was highly divided pre independence
After independence our soldiers have fought to protect our land and not sell to earn some dollars , didnt Mushi say Yes to just one phone call from Bush?to fight in Afghanistan?
Prior to that against Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?
Haha we will plead Americans to attack you?lol
You pray side by side yet many members here are justifying bombings on Yemen lol thats some nice hypocrisy

OK dear, here is a lesson in what I meant instead of how you twisted it:

Only someone can mention Mir Jafer who betrayed the Muslim ruler of Mysore, Tipu Sultan for East India Company.

I too am talking about the Indians who betrayed their Muslim rulers and were recruited by East India Company to establish itself and capture India.

East India Company in the initial days recruited sepoys from the local communities in the Madras and Bombay area broadly defined as being "of a proper caste". In the Bengal Army however, recruitment was only amongst high caste Brahmin and Rajput communities mainly from UP etc.

That muslims too became part of the British Indian army is no secret but not beyond a certain percentage to keep mutiny in check.. as in the case of pork smeared cartridges.

Anyway, whatever the percentage, not a proud legacy is it?

didnt Mushi say Yes to just one phone call from Bush?to fight in Afghanistan?

Yes, in principle. as he didn't put a price tag on it in return to the admitted astonishment of Americans. Doesn't it go against what you suggest.

Prior to that against Soviet invasion of Afghanistan?

Read some history books dear, it was Bhutto as far back as 77 who started helping Afghan Mujahideen organize.

Americans jumped in later after that during Zia era when they saw it fit to take revenge for Vietnam. The rest is history as ISI kept control of operations in Afghanistan and defeated the Soviets with the help of US support.

You pray side by side yet many members here are justifying bombings on Yemen lol thats some nice hypocrisy

It's not hypocrisy my ill informed cloudy neighbor, it's about fighting foreign sponsored terrorists and proxies like we fought Indian sponsored TTP in Pakistan.

You really are quite ignoramus my dear Indian.

 

[Arulmozhi Varman]

Getting personal you ignorant, Sweden/Scandinavia follows the Islamic economic system more than any Muslim country. The social system practiced here is very similar to Islamic system of governance and social welfare in the state of Madina. That's the madina state model the PM of Pakistan talks about. It is the most modern & advanced model.

Never in my post I mentioned you or anything personal. God save your English reading. I mentioned that post as a hypocrisy of Muslims living in the west in general and your post is an perfect example.

Nobody can force any state to act in a particular way unless its voluntarily done by the people. State of Madina or not, if the people dont change there is nothing an PM can do. Moreover speaking Sweden doesnt have a single law that can be labelled Islamic, be in marriage or dowry or inheritance and yet support "some" retrograde laws when its tried to be removed in India. And it gives interest on banking. Another lol to comfort yourself with a lie to justify living in a kafir land.

Good day.

 

[Goku]

OK dear, here is a lesson in what I meant instead of how you twisted it:

Only someone can mention Mir Jafer who betrayed the Muslim ruler of Mysore, Tipu Sultan for East India Company.

I too am talking about the Indians who betrayed their Muslim rulers and were recruited by East India Company to establish itself and capture India.

East India Company in the initial days recruited sepoys from the local communities in the Madras and Bombay area broadly defined as being "of a proper caste". In the Bengal Army however, recruitment was only amongst high caste Brahmin and Rajput communities mainly from UP etc.

That muslims too became part of the British Indian army is no secret but not beyond a certain percentage to keep mutiny in check.. as in the case of pork smeared cartridges.

Anyway, whatever the percentage, not a proud legacy is it?


Yes, in principle. as he didn't put a price tag on it in return to the admitted astonishment of Americans. Doesn't it go against what you suggest.

Read some history books dear, it was Bhutto as far back as 77 who started helping Afghan Mujahideen organize.

Americans jumped in later after that during Zia era when they saw it fit to take revenge for Vietnam. The rest is history as ISI kept control of operations in Afghanistan and defeated the Soviets with the help of US support.


It's not hypocrisy my ill informed cloudy neighbor, it's about fighting foreign sponsored terrorists and proxies like we fought Indian sponsored TTP in Pakistan.

You really are quite ignoramus my dear Indian.

Hahaha lol do u ev
en know who mir jafar was?go learn some history , there is no relation between Mir jafar and Tipu Sultan lol , Mir jafar sided with British to depose nawab of Bengal
Atleast read proper history
Anyways we are talking about post independence when nation states of India and Pakistan were formed , prior to that Indian subcontinent was divided into many kingdoms
Some used British to gain power and vice versa
And mercenary martial race of current Pakistan who u guys boast off fought for the British in world wars
Now post independence , Indian soldiers didnt fight for foreign lands or foreign rulers unlike you , you fought against Israelis while arab states provided u with money and weapons against war with India
Fight against soviet invasion included - Saudi money and ideological base , American weapons and Pakistani manpower
While post WoT ,Mushi sold his country to the Americans , allowed free drone attacks etc in exchange of dollars which he enjoys in Dubai lol
Regarding houthis ,they are Yemenis while they are being attacked while your brethren justify bombings on civilian areas
And it is not me who called you mercenary , its your own guys on this platform that said that haha
One guy even claimed that Modi granted free army and logistics to GCC which they declared ,lol why would we do that?when only thing we need from GCC is oil and remittances , we dont care what happens in Yemen
Now dont derail the thread or start a new thread

 

[war&peace]

Never in my post I mentioned you or anything personal. God save your English reading. I mentioned that post as a hypocrisy of Muslims living in the west in general and your post is an perfect example.

Nobody can force any state to act in a particular way unless its voluntarily done by the people. State of Madina or not, if the people dont change there is nothing an PM can do. Moreover speaking Sweden doesnt have a single law that can be labelled Islamic, be in marriage or dowry or inheritance and yet support "some" retrograde laws when its tried to be removed in India. And it gives interest on banking. Another lol to comfort yourself with a lie to justify living in a kafir land.

Good day.

Millions of bharti hindus are living and earning the livelihood in Muslim countries and serving their Muslim masters and you seem to be okay with that. While they harbour animosity against Islam & Muslims.

I hope Pakistan can help Indonesia rocket program.

Pakistan already has developed a working model for an SLV based on the resource available to us but due to financial limitation, the establishment diverted that money towards more urgent missile development programs.

 

[The SC]

Led by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which is at the forefront of Arab spaceflight, 11 Arab states have launched a regional space collaboration program to curb their reliance on NASA and expand the limited Arab presence in outer space.

The “Arab Space Cooperation Group (ASCG)” also aims to give the cash-flush but technologically limited Arab world a place in the multi-billion dollar global space industry. In addition, it will work towards the exchange of knowledge and will encourage joint projects that will ultimately boost the Arab space industry.


ASCG includes the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman, Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Jordan, Lebanon, Sudan and Kuwait.

"Today at the Global Space Congress in Abu Dhabi, we attended the signing of a charter to establish the first Arab body for space cooperation, bringing together 11 Arab states," said Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice-President and Prime Minister of the UAE and Ruler of Dubai.


He said ASCG’s first project is "a satellite that Arab scientists will work on from here in the UAE.” The satellite will be launched in three years’ time.



It will be built by engineers and scientists from all 11 countries in the group. The satellite will monitor climate and the environment in the Arab nations and other parts of the globe, according to Dr. Mohammed Al Ahbabi, director-general of the UAE Space Agency.

Revealing more about the satellite, Dr. Al Ahbabi said it will help environmental agencies, urban planners and monitor the atmosphere for CO2. The involvement of 11 countries “means that we have opened the doors for cooperation and we are serious about it. It's great to bring Arabs together, work together, share knowledge and design the future together. Space is all about cooperation.”

Sheikh Mohammed launched ASCG during the inaugural day of the ongoing Global Space Congress, being held in Abu Dhabi until March 21.



"During the opening of the Global Space Congress in Abu Dhabi, we attended the launch of the first Arab space coordination group that includes 11 countries. The group's first project will be a satellite built by Arab scientists in the UAE. I personally believe in Arab talents," tweeted Sheikh Mohammed.

The satellite will be called “813” and was given this name to highlight an important year in Arab history.

@The SC
@Wilhelm II
I apologise if this was posted but i never read about it until now. This can be very beneficial for all Arab states involved if a carrier rocket can be made with foreign help from Ukraine for example. CubeSats, imaging sats, and future versions of ArabSats will be launched if Allah wills it. 11 Arab countries with a combined population above 300 million people means a large pool of young engineers that can work on satelittes.

This is a very good move, expected for a while, since most of the 11 Arab countries already make own small satellites or even medium ones.. and even heavy ones like KSA..So scientists, technicians and work force is available.. great to see the UAE take the initiative..

Pakistan should also join this program as we are facing financial problems

Don't worry, Pakistan will benefit from this program one way or the other.. haha!

 

[Numerous]

Its not just about race m8. We have the same culture, and language as them. Islamic unity doesn't work and can't work dus to religious differences among Muslims. Mentally, humans are made to act tribally and like their own people above others, I and many others share this view.

I care about Arab Christians even if they are a different then I am religiously. In a secular time like today we don't go off religion anymore, we go off of roots.

How has arab unity worked out? It hasn't saved you guys from Iran's advance, you guys have received a beating at every turn. Hasn't helped you guys from having a feud with Qatar. It didn't save those 100,000s who got slaughtered by alawites in Syria etc... A lot of arab nationalist movements have come and failed big time, with their only long lasting product being very oppressive regime.

Whether the time is secular or something, we Muslims remain the same. We take our stances from religion, not from non-Muslim philosophies or xyz isms.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

How has arab unity worked out? It hasn't saved you guys from Iran's advance, you guys have received a beating at every turn. Hasn't helped you guys from having a feud with Qatar. It didn't save those 100,000s who got slaughtered by alawites in Syria etc... A lot of arab nationalist movements have come and failed big time, with their only long lasting product being very oppressive regime.

Whether the time is secular or something, we Muslims remain the same. We take our stances from religion, not from non-Muslim philosophies or xyz isms.

What beating?

Tell me who in the region would stop Iraq under Saddam in 1991 if not for the US? The US could stop and wreck Pakistan as well. Iran couldn't stop it, Kuwait was taken in a few hours and Turkey was weaker than Iran back then.

The US targets us actively, that's the sole reason for these failures.

 

[The SC]

Shouldn't aim to copy the christians bro. We are not them.

Islamic unity > pan arabism any day of the week

For example. I don't back you guys over Iran because you are arab. I feel sadness or anger when I read about syrians suffering but not because they're arab. I back you and I empathise with you because you were are Muslim. Islam is what jells Muslims together. I am the same race as many hindus and sikhs but I couldn't care less about them from this unity standpoint.

The Arab world is almost half or third of the Islamic world, the more developed it becomes the more beneficial it will be to the rest of the Islamic world.. it is like strengthening your body, you can only do it by yourself..but it will make you a good help for a bigger brother if he needs you one day and a motivation and help to your younger or smaller brother to do the same.. at the end everyone will be strong..So the sum will be bigger and stronger then just the addition of individual states..

 

[Shane]

Hahaha lol do u ev
en know who mir jafar was?go learn some history , there is no relation between Mir jafar and Tipu Sultan lol , Mir jafar sided with British to depose nawab of Bengal
Atleast read proper history
Anyways we are talking about post independence when nation states of India and Pakistan were formed , prior to that Indian subcontinent was divided into many kingdoms
Some used British to gain power and vice versa
And mercenary martial race of current Pakistan who u guys boast off fought for the British in world wars
Now post independence , Indian soldiers didnt fight for foreign lands or foreign rulers unlike you , you fought against Israelis while arab states provided u with money and weapons against war with India
Fight against soviet invasion included - Saudi money and ideological base , American weapons and Pakistani manpower
While post WoT ,Mushi sold his country to the Americans , allowed free drone attacks etc in exchange of dollars which he enjoys in Dubai lol
Regarding houthis ,they are Yemenis while they are being attacked while your brethren justify bombings on civilian areas
And it is not me who called you mercenary , its your own guys on this platform that said that haha
One guy even claimed that Modi granted free army and logistics to GCC which they declared ,lol why would we do that?when only thing we need from GCC is oil and remittances , we dont care what happens in Yemen
Now dont derail the thread or start a new thread

My mistake. I admit it dear, I mixed-up Mir Jaffer with Mir Sadiq.

The rest of the post is historically and factually correct to the last full stop as you find yourself forced to talk about post independence.

So let's get back to the thread topic.

 

[Numerous]

What beating?

Tell me who in the region would stop Iraq under Saddam in 1991 if not for the US? The US could stop and wreck Pakistan as well. Iran couldn't stop it, Kuwait was taken in a few hours and Turkey was weaker than Iran back then.

The US targets us actively, that's the sole reason for these failures.

Well, Iran today heavily influences 3 arab countries - syria, lebanon, iraq - and has military groups loyal to it in high positions in those countries. It (through the houthis) took control of a large chunk of yemen too, right on the doorstep of it's chief enemy saudi arabia. It's pretty obvious to any onlooker that Iran has outsmarted you arab regimes at every turn and would probably beat the entire gulf in a war too.

Wasn't Saddam's whole baathist idealogy based on arab nationalism/pan arabism? It didn't stop him from his wars.

Many arab countries are rich, mainly the gulf, your failures are due to you guys pursuing other idealogies, the US is not the cause of every problem. You have Islam, yet your regimes would rather pursue other things.

 

[The SC]

Nationalism, race and ethnicity over the religion...taught to them by the British
While Islam calls towards unity and Muslim brotherhood, the nationalism divides and it is against the teachings of Islam. Furthermore nationalism does not stop anywhere, it will keep dividing you until you become totally separate individual. Arabs vs non-Arabs, then khalijeen vs non-khalijeen, dark skinned vs light skinned Arabs, Yemenis vs Saudis, Saudis vs Qataris, Emiratis vs Kuwaitis, Omani vs etc and then it will reach the level of tribes.. and sub-tribes..but idiots won't understand until the enemies will destroy them.

Friend..why do Pakistanis say they are Pakistanis , or Chinese say they are Chinese.. I think there is a misunderstanding of the Arab world.. there are many states but there is a unity that many don't see and only Arabs can see..it is called the Arab world. a Muslim entity to recon with.. you can ask any genuine Arab from North Africa to Iraq and you'll hear the same thing about belonging to the Arab world..and don't ask about Islam, because that goes without saying..

 

[Numerous]

The Arab world is almost half or third of the Islamic world, the more developed it becomes the more beneficial it will be to the rest of the Islamic world.. it is like strengthening your body, you can only do it by yourself..but it will make you a good help for a bigger brother if he needs you one day and a motivation and help to your younger or smaller brother to do the same.. at the end everyone will be strong..So the sum will be bigger and stronger then just the addition of individual states..

I'm not saying don't get strong bro. I'm saying that you shouldn't pursue arab nationalism over Islam unity.

 

[The SC]

Well, Iran today heavily influences 3 arab countries - syria, lebanon, iraq - and has military groups loyal to it in high positions in those countries. It (through the houthis) took control of a large chunk of yemen too, right on the doorstep of it's chief enemy saudi arabia. It's pretty obvious to any onlooker that Iran has outsmarted you arab regimes at every turn and would probably beat the entire gulf in a war too.

Wasn't Saddam's whole baathist idealogy based on arab nationalism/pan arabism? It didn't stop him from his wars.

Many arab countries are rich, mainly the gulf, your failures are due to you guys pursuing other idealogies, the US is not the cause of every problem. You have Islam, yet your regimes would rather pursue other things.

Well heavily is a too strong word for the Iranian influence..it is rather weak; in Syria the heavy weight is Russia, Iran plays a third role after Bashar.. in Lebanon they are friends with Hizbullah; a political party in Lebanon among many either supported byArabs or France and Europe _ I am talking about the Lebanese Christians here!_.. and with Houthis in Yemen they control 15% of the territory.. I won't call that heavily, only if you don't see the other side's strengths.. Iran will get a beating if it attacks Arabs, it knows it, but for Arabs, there is no point of fighting with a loser..that has nothing to lose.. would you fight with a bad homeless guy on the street if he provokes you continually while you have a decent life that you might lose even if you know you can beat the sh*t out of him..or even kill him?

I'm not saying don't get strong bro. I'm saying that you shouldn't pursue arab nationalism over Islam unity.

Well, for Arabs (like a body) they go hand in hand.. since for The biggest majority of Arabs, being Arab and Muslim are synonymous..

So when is so called ASA hiring ex NASA and ESA employees?

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...pace-agency/articleshow/52434197.cms?from=mdr

https://gulfnews.com/uae/government/uae-space-agency-explores-cooperation-with-indias-isro-1.1591990

There are very prominent Arabs working in NASA..if you did not know it already..

 

[war&peace]

Friend..why do Pakistanis say they are Pakistanis , or Chinese say they are Chinese.. I think there is a misunderstanding of the Arab world.. there are many states but there is a unity that many don't see and only Arabs can see..it is called the Arab world. a Muslim entity to recon with.. you can ask any genuine Arab from North Africa to Iraq and you'll hear the same thing about belonging to the Arab world..and don't ask about Islam, because that goes without saying..

Dear brother, we should drop these ethnic and nationalist prejudices. Allah says that We made in tribes and nations only you for identification purposes. But Islam discourages discrimination based on tribes, ethnicity. Holy Prophet (ﷺ) clearly discussed in khutba hajjatul wida and he said no Arab is superior to any non-Arab and vice versa. Only one who fears Allah the most is closer to Allah ( but this is between Allah and the person).