10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

You are asking as if the Pakistanis and the Chinese are posting with rock solid evidences on this forum. I am telling what I am learning from journalists whose credibility I don't doubt. And I am not trolling.

I don't think you are trolling. You are going with sources that you have faith in.

However, Pakistanis (and many other international analysts) saw first hand how many, many 'responsible & credible' Indian journalists, analysts and commentators were hoodwinked by the Indian government and Indian military leadership into making fantastic and unsubstantiated claims about damage and casualties inflicted at Balakot and the shooting down of an F-16.

In the case of Balakot, multiple independent satellite imagery analysis clearly debunked Indian claims, but that did not stop the Indian media and 'respected and credible' Indian analysts and journalists from continuing to parrot the government line.

So you have to understand that, without credible evidence, Indian claims are not going to be so easily accepted.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Apparently some genius copied the names of the 108 (fictional) heroes from Water Margin from Wikipedia and tried to pass it off as PLA casualties...

 

[SrNair]

LOL you can only mock. In real, they beat you up

Neither Indian nor Chinese.
Just forgets your cheerleading part .
A lots of explanation from mouth piece this week itself and trying to convincing themselves and everyone else.
On top of that Chinese concern about the pressure on GoI if they releasethe casuality numbers even though the casuality is below 20.
Soo much of care .
Lol
Whom they are fooling ?
Everything backfired on face of Xi .
Now making adjustments lol

 

[PakSword]

Indian favorite Expert (not that I endorse him):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1274666603410407424

 

[GamoAccu]

Neither Indian nor Chinese.
Just forgets your cheerleading part .
A lots of explanation from mouth piece this week itself and trying to convincing themselves and everyone else.
On top of that Chinese concern about the pressure on GoI if they releasethe casuality numbers even though the casuality is below 20.
Soo much of care .
Lol
Whom they are fooling ?
Everything backfired on face of Xi .
Now making adjustments lol

What did India get so far?
1. 20 Indian soldiers died including 1 colonel and 2 majors
2. 76 injured soldiers
3. 10 Injured captured then released including 1 colonel and 3 majors
4. Modi go on TV and said no one intruded territory

Nothing but embarrassments

 

[Mrc]

These are not flying in Ladakh area......

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275382001273417729

https://twitter.com/x/status/1275382165837156353

Well if indians fly this low I m sure one or both would have crashed

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

What did India get so far?
1. 20 Indian soldiers died including 1 colonel and 2 majors
2. 76 injured soldiers
3. 10 Injured captured then released including 1 colonel and 3 majors
4. Modi go on TV and said no one intruded territory

Nothing but embarrassments

I feel sorry for their mothers.

 

[scorpionx]

I don't think you are trolling. You are going with sources that you have faith in.

However, Pakistanis (and many other international analysts) saw first hand how many, many 'responsible & credible' Indian journalists, analysts and commentators were hoodwinked by the Indian government and Indian military leadership into making fantastic and unsubstantiated claims about damage and casualties inflicted at Balakot and the shooting down of an F-16.

In the case of Balakot, multiple independent satellite imagery analysis clearly debunked Indian claims, but that did not stop the Indian media and 'respected and credible' Indian analysts and journalists from continuing to parrot the government line.

So you have to understand that, without credible evidence, Indian claims are not going to be so easily accepted.

By 'responsible and credible' journalism if you are referring to the kind of journalism Arnav Goswami and Sudhir Chowdhury are making us swallow these days..no. I am not speaking of that kind of 'journalism'.

I still feel Indian media has hope. People shall one day realize the value of factual reporting, the difference of unbiased reports with dogmatic narrative and story telling.Some journalists always amazed me with their clarity and unbiased honesty. And today they are doing their job just fine. Their reportings hardly get posted in this forum. But does it make them any less credible? It does not matter if their reportings don't satisfy people here. They shall always be credible among sane Indians.

 

[steelTalons]

Btw this is the same expert who categorically denied india's claims(300dead) in the balakot strike. One of the very first to do so.

Indian favorite Expert (not that I endorse him):

https://twitter.com/x/status/1274666603410407424

 

[Realtalk108]

Is there ANY credible evidence that supports your claims?

All publicly available Sat images. China publishes their own, very detailed official maps. Google Earth overlays it on their images. You can clearly see their claim line passes ~5 kms upstream from the Galwan-Shyok confluence.

So what happened, is that by early May China crossed its own claim line, and came down into that 5 km stretch. Pay attention to this part. It's their claim line which India always respected (China have done the same in the Eastern sector). They set up camp there. They also came forward in a few other areas like Pangong north shore. But they stayed behind their claim line in these places.

By late May they were pushed out from Galwan area. But crossing their own claim line angered India. Then they built something upstream on their side, some structure, not sure exactly what, which royally pissed India off.

So basically what happened on 15th is India sent troops to China's side of the claim line, something that happens very rarely, and killed a bunch of Chinese troops, suffering some 100+ dead/injured itself.

India's message is, we will tolerate causalities but you ain't getting away scot-free. This was the reason behind Modi's remark - "No Chinese presence on Indian territory". It was India who crossed the line on 15th.

So now China has retreated behind their claim line in Galwan. But it's Pangong lake where it will end. Near Pangong China is behind their claim line but ahead of the Indian perception of the LAC (it's complicated). If they stay, India lost this match. Else vice versa.

Good thing is we don't need to rely on official releases. Within next few weeks fresh sat images will declare the results.

Then why did you dismantle your positions all the way to the Shyok after your shupa powa victory?

Sweety, you did the same. Both sides went back some 500 meters. Pick up some fresh sat images. We are calling it win-win

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

All publicly available Sat images. China publishes their own, very detailed official maps. Google Earth overlays it on their images. You can clearly see their claim line passes ~5 kms upstream from the Galwan-Shyok confluence.

So what happened, is that by early May China crossed its own claim line, and came down into that 5 km stretch. Pay attention to this part. It's their claim line which India always respected (China have done the same in the Eastern sector). They set up camp there. They also came forward in a few other areas like Pangong north shore. But they stayed behind their claim line in these places.

By late May they were pushed out from Galwan area. But crossing their own claim line angered India. Then they built something upstream on their side, some structure, not sure exactly what, which royally pissed India off.

So basically what happened on 15th is India sent troops to China's side of the claim line, something that happens very rarely, and killed a bunch of Chinese troops, suffering some 100+ dead/injured itself.

India's message is, we will tolerate causalities but you ain't getting away scot-free. This was the reason behind Modi's remark - "No Chinese presence on Indian territory". It was India who crossed the line on 15th.

So now China has retreated behind their claim line in Galwan. But it's Pangong lake where it will end. Near Pangong China is behind their claim line but ahead of the Indian perception of the LAC (it's complicated). If they stay, India lost this match. Else vice versa.

Good thing is we don't need to rely on official releases. Within next few weeks fresh sat images will declare the results.



Sweety, you did the same. Both sides went back some 500 meters. Pick up some fresh sat images. We are calling it win-win

Is there ANY credible evidence that supports your claims? If what you say is true then remember to post the links to that evidence here.

 

[Realtalk108]

Apparently some genius copied the names of the 108 (fictional) heroes from Water Margin from Wikipedia and tried to pass it off as PLA casualties...

Ya that was really silly. But it should be taken in the spirit of a (near) bloodless conflict.

Is there ANY credible evidence that supports your claims? If what you say is true then remember to post the links to that evidence here.

Yes darling. It's right there in my post. Missed it? Perhaps you were speed-reading and missed it. No biggy. Here, let me link it again - https://theprint.in/opinion/chinese...efore-it-was-cleared-by-indian-troops/428658/

Inb4 - iNDiAn SouRCe reeee

 

[faithfulguy]

Shekhar Gupta. Watch his cut the clutter episodes on YT.


Please highlight where I said Indians are the aggressors. Are you quoting me?

Indians were aggressors base on the fact that you and Modi admitted that no Chinese crossed to Indian side of LAC. This is because only Indians crossed the LAC to attacked Chinese forces. As a result, all casualties occurred on the Chinese side of LAC. The fact that Indians had the additional death is because they were exposed to the elements as they were left to die By the Indian military. So it’s Indians neglected their wounded that caused the death.

 

[Feng Leng]

Sweety, you did the same. Both sides went back some 500 meters. Pick up some fresh sat images. We are calling it win-win

But you are a shupa powa. You can draw PLA blood. Xi Jinping is afraid of Modi. Why dismantle your permanent positions on your own side of the LAC after your Babu died?

 

[lonelyman]

All publicly available Sat images. China publishes their own, very detailed official maps. Google Earth overlays it on their images. You can clearly see their claim line passes ~5 kms upstream from the Galwan-Shyok confluence.

So what happened, is that by early May China crossed its own claim line, and came down into that 5 km stretch. Pay attention to this part. It's their claim line which India always respected (China have done the same in the Eastern sector). They set up camp there. They also came forward in a few other areas like Pangong north shore. But they stayed behind their claim line in these places.

By late May they were pushed out from Galwan area. But crossing their own claim line angered India. Then they built something upstream on their side, some structure, not sure exactly what, which royally pissed India off.

So basically what happened on 15th is India sent troops to China's side of the claim line, something that happens very rarely, and killed a bunch of Chinese troops, suffering some 100+ dead/injured itself.

India's message is, we will tolerate causalities but you ain't getting away scot-free. This was the reason behind Modi's remark - "No Chinese presence on Indian territory". It was India who crossed the line on 15th.

So now China has retreated behind their claim line in Galwan. But it's Pangong lake where it will end. Near Pangong China is behind their claim line but ahead of the Indian perception of the LAC (it's complicated). If they stay, India lost this match. Else vice versa.

Good thing is we don't need to rely on official releases. Within next few weeks fresh sat images will declare the results.



Sweety, you did the same. Both sides went back some 500 meters. Pick up some fresh sat images. We are calling it win-win

Even surrender modi himself surrendered, his *** licking RSS online army going overdrive proving otherwise

why go berserk boycott this boycott that if you won? Modi himself admit these poor jawans crossed to Chinese side to die, they got what's coming, don't blame us