10 captives, Over 20 soldiers, including Commanding Officer killed at Galwan border clash with China

[Aaloo Tikki]

Indian Army Calls Out Chinese Bluff....
When more than 1000 soldiers clash, whether with barbed clubs sticks or baseball bats, 20 or 30 or 50 is a low figure. In the narrow gorge that defines the terrain at the point of contact in Gwalan valley in sub zero temperatures of High Altitude Areas of Ladakh, chances of soldiers rolling down into the river and getting washed away in icy river are reasonably high.
Expect more casualties on both sides and that is one part of the story.

Looking beyond, the perpetual bully called China (whose 60% territory today actually never belonged to China, including white of TIBET/XINJIANG/UIGHUR/AKSAI CHIN/PARTS OF MONGOLIA) is talking about 'No War' WITH INDIA within a few hours of getting a bloodied nose BY INDIAN ARMY and that is something unprecedented.
Those who follow Chinese closely, would get the point being made.
Indo-China war will not happen!

China is in no position to wage a war with the whole world, except two nations, staring Chinese in their slanting eyes!

Now the question is if war was not the motive, why did it happen after the issue had been discussed and decision had been taken a few hours back to pull back!
For China, it was a gamble that had to be taken. After the bashing that the top leadership received post withdrawal and climbdown in Doklam, another similar withdrawal would have put the Chinese President on a barbeque. At the same time, with the CPEC compulsion forcing China to do something especially after 370 abrogation, they took a gamble.
*Chinese were playing & hoping on usual Indian response of exercising restraint.
*But there is no one more unpredictable, volatile & volcanic as an Indian Army Battalion whose Commanding Officer has been martyred while leading his Battalion to save the DIGNITY of his Motherland.
*Anything could happen and somewhere, the control over the ploy was lost by the Chinese who were shocked and bewildered by Indian Ferocity on the night of 15 June 20 in icy heights of Ladakh.
*Chinese one-child policy has led to a generation of AC-reared pampered kids who form their forces today. Those CHINESE Army softies were never expected to match up with Indian soldiers one to one to start with and it got proved in less than two hours.
*Just Six hours later, Chinese were calling Indians for talks! Had Indians taken it lying down, China would have declared itself a Victor after the stand off.*
*Loss of life is sad but we Indian soldiers take it with a sense of pride. Our only regret is the compulsion to fight in a way that identifies with the stone age.

No one knows for sure what kind of Indian response will follow since as per the reports till now, Chinese had started it in the first place. India giving it back hereafter may or may not happen.
*But I have a feeling that this moment will define our future relationship with China.
*China has lost the plot and the dominating position that it has always been very proud of.
*Chinese talking peace, so soon after a skirmish, is unusual and it tells us a thing or two*.

Chinese Bluff

You mean this Thrashing ?

It's after Balakot. Balakot happened before that.

 

[Kuru]

Waiting on India's response is all. New supa powa 2020 India will make China pay right?

You seem to be new in this thread. Otherwise you wouldn't have asked such a silly question.

No one can make China pay, they are immortals. Chinese soldiers can never die. Please go through this thread to understand this scientifically proven fact on PDF.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors

The fighting at Galwan started after Indian troops dismantled a Chinese tent sent up close to the mouth of the Galwan river. (Representative image)

The killings mark the Indian Army’s worst losses since the 1999 Kargil war, and mark the most intense fighting between India and China since 1967.
Praveen Swami

• NEW DELHI
• LAST UPDATED: JUNE 17, 2020, 7:10 AM IST

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Furious hand-to-hand fighting raged across the Galwan river valley for over eight hours on Monday night, as People’s Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh has told News18.

The savage combat, with few parallels in the history of modern armies, is confirmed to have claimed the lives of at least 23 Indian soldiers, including 16 Bihar’s commanding officer, Colonel Santosh Babu, many because of protracted exposure to sub-zero temperatures the Indian Army said late on Tuesday.
“Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”

Government sources say at least another two dozen soldiers are battling life-threatening injuries, and over 110 have needed treatment. “The toll will likely go up,” a military officer with knowledge of the issue said.

The fighting at Galwan, News18 had first reported on Tuesday, began after troops under Colonel Babu’s command dismantled a Chinese tent sent up near a position code-named Patrol Point 14, close to the mouth of the Galwan river. The tent had been dismantled following a meeting between Lieutenant General Harinder Singh, who commands the Leh-based XIV Corps, and Major-General Lin Liu, the head of the Xinjiang military district

Inside two days of the disengagement agreed to at the two Generals’ meeting in Chushul, though, the PLA set up a fresh tent at Patrol Point 14, inside territory claimed by India. Colonel Babu’s unit, government sources said, was ordered to ensure the tent was removed.

For reasons that remain unclear, the PLA refused to vacate Point 14 — reneging on the June 6 agreement — leading to a melee in which the Chinese tent was burned down, the sources said. In ongoing dialogue with division-level military commanders of the two armies in Galwan, a bid to bring about de-escalation, the PLA has alleged troops of the 16 Bihar were responsible for the incident.

The PLA, government sources have said, alleges Colonel Babu’s troops crossed a buffer zone separating the two sides, violating border-management protocols which mandates the use of white flags and banners to signal to the other side that it must turn back from the territory it is on.

The burning of the tent, the sources said, was followed by stone-pelting on Sunday, and then a massive Monday night attack on the 16 Bihar’s unprepared troops. Large rocks were also thrown towards the Indian positions by Chinese troops stationed on the high ridge above Point 14, one source said. Though some fought back using the improvised weapons carried by the PLA, most had no means of defence.

Large numbers of dead bodies, Indian military officials say, were handed over by the PLA on Monday morning — possibly men dragged away in the course of hand-to-hand fighting, and then killed.

The killings mark the Indian Army’s worst losses since the 1999 Kargil war, and mark the most intense fighting between India and China since 1967, when 88 Indian soldiers and perhaps as many as 340 PLA troops were killed in the course of intense skirmishes near the Nathu La and Cho La passes, the gateways to the strategically-vital Chumbi valley.

Beijing has issued no official statement on the numbers of casualties the PLA suffered in in the fighting, but the Indian Army claims it has intercepted military communication suggesting over 40 PLA soldiers may also have been killed or injured.

Earlier, on May 5, Indian and Chinese troops, as well as border guards, had engaged in similar, brutal fighting near the Pangong Lake, south of the Galwan valley. The commanding officer of the 11 Mahar Regiment, Colonel Vijay Rana, is still being treated for life-threatening wounds sustaining during the fighting, army sources say.

“There are obviously questions the public will want answers to,” a senior government official told News18, “including why the troops under attack at Galwan could not be supported, and why casualties could not be evacuated. The government will conduct a full investigation of these issues.”

No explanation has been offered for why the PLA pitched a tent at Point 14 after agreeing to a withdrawal. In addition to a drawdown at Point 14, the June 6 agreement had mandated an end to a standoff unfolding at another location code-named Point 15, and a withdrawal of troops and armoured personnel carriers stationed at the third location, Point 17.

Experts believe the crisis unfolding along the LAC is driven by China’s concerns that India’s development of logistical infrastructure could lead it to occupy contested territories it has until now only been able to patrol.

In maps published in 1962, after the end of the China-India war that year, the PLA asserted it had established control of the entire Galwan valley. Lightly-armed Indian troops of the 5 Jat Regiment, whose supply lines had been choked for months, held out against an entire PLA battalion at one key post in Galwan, losing 32 of the 68 troops stationed there before running out of ammunition.


Following the war, though, the PLA pulled back from its 1962 line, allowing Indian troops to resume patrolling ground dozens of kilometres to the east of the 1962 line, reaching the positions that India claims to be the LAC.

In the 1980s, China launched major border-works programmes which led several areas claimed by India to lie on its side of the LAC — like the Finger 8 ridge in Pangong — to be physically held by the PLA.

So by India own accounts, Indian army was running for its life and mowed down like rats. So how come Indian establishment is boosting about high Chinese casualties?

 

[Liquidmetal]

Indian Army Calls Out Chinese Bluff....
When more than 1000 soldiers clash, whether with barbed clubs sticks or baseball bats, 20 or 30 or 50 is a low figure. In the narrow gorge that defines the terrain at the point of contact in Gwalan valley in sub zero temperatures of High Altitude Areas of Ladakh, chances of soldiers rolling down into the river and getting washed away in icy river are reasonably high.
Expect more casualties on both sides and that is one part of the story.

Looking beyond, the perpetual bully called China (whose 60% territory today actually never belonged to China, including white of TIBET/XINJIANG/UIGHUR/AKSAI CHIN/PARTS OF MONGOLIA) is talking about 'No War' WITH INDIA within a few hours of getting a bloodied nose BY INDIAN ARMY and that is something unprecedented.
Those who follow Chinese closely, would get the point being made.
Indo-China war will not happen!

China is in no position to wage a war with the whole world, except two nations, staring Chinese in their slanting eyes!

Now the question is if war was not the motive, why did it happen after the issue had been discussed and decision had been taken a few hours back to pull back!
For China, it was a gamble that had to be taken. After the bashing that the top leadership received post withdrawal and climbdown in Doklam, another similar withdrawal would have put the Chinese President on a barbeque. At the same time, with the CPEC compulsion forcing China to do something especially after 370 abrogation, they took a gamble.
*Chinese were playing & hoping on usual Indian response of exercising restraint.
*But there is no one more unpredictable, volatile & volcanic as an Indian Army Battalion whose Commanding Officer has been martyred while leading his Battalion to save the DIGNITY of his Motherland.
*Anything could happen and somewhere, the control over the ploy was lost by the Chinese who were shocked and bewildered by Indian Ferocity on the night of 15 June 20 in icy heights of Ladakh.
*Chinese one-child policy has led to a generation of AC-reared pampered kids who form their forces today. Those CHINESE Army softies were never expected to match up with Indian soldiers one to one to start with and it got proved in less than two hours.
*Just Six hours later, Chinese were calling Indians for talks! Had Indians taken it lying down, China would have declared itself a Victor after the stand off.*
*Loss of life is sad but we Indian soldiers take it with a sense of pride. Our only regret is the compulsion to fight in a way that identifies with the stone age.

No one knows for sure what kind of Indian response will follow since as per the reports till now, Chinese had started it in the first place. India giving it back hereafter may or may not happen.
*But I have a feeling that this moment will define our future relationship with China.
*China has lost the plot and the dominating position that it has always been very proud of.
*Chinese talking peace, so soon after a skirmish, is unusual and it tells us a thing or two*.

Delusions and wishful thinking. Need to take the meds matey.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Indian Army Calls Out Chinese Bluff....
When more than 1000 soldiers clash, whether with barbed clubs sticks or baseball bats, 20 or 30 or 50 is a low figure. In the narrow gorge that defines the terrain at the point of contact in Gwalan valley in sub zero temperatures of High Altitude Areas of Ladakh, chances of soldiers rolling down into the river and getting washed away in icy river are reasonably high.
Expect more casualties on both sides and that is one part of the story.

Looking beyond, the perpetual bully called China (whose 60% territory today actually never belonged to China, including white of TIBET/XINJIANG/UIGHUR/AKSAI CHIN/PARTS OF MONGOLIA) is talking about 'No War' WITH INDIA within a few hours of getting a bloodied nose BY INDIAN ARMY and that is something unprecedented.
Those who follow Chinese closely, would get the point being made.
Indo-China war will not happen!

China is in no position to wage a war with the whole world, except two nations, staring Chinese in their slanting eyes!

Now the question is if war was not the motive, why did it happen after the issue had been discussed and decision had been taken a few hours back to pull back!
For China, it was a gamble that had to be taken. After the bashing that the top leadership received post withdrawal and climbdown in Doklam, another similar withdrawal would have put the Chinese President on a barbeque. At the same time, with the CPEC compulsion forcing China to do something especially after 370 abrogation, they took a gamble.
*Chinese were playing & hoping on usual Indian response of exercising restraint.
*But there is no one more unpredictable, volatile & volcanic as an Indian Army Battalion whose Commanding Officer has been martyred while leading his Battalion to save the DIGNITY of his Motherland.
*Anything could happen and somewhere, the control over the ploy was lost by the Chinese who were shocked and bewildered by Indian Ferocity on the night of 15 June 20 in icy heights of Ladakh.
*Chinese one-child policy has led to a generation of AC-reared pampered kids who form their forces today. Those CHINESE Army softies were never expected to match up with Indian soldiers one to one to start with and it got proved in less than two hours.
*Just Six hours later, Chinese were calling Indians for talks! Had Indians taken it lying down, China would have declared itself a Victor after the stand off.*
*Loss of life is sad but we Indian soldiers take it with a sense of pride. Our only regret is the compulsion to fight in a way that identifies with the stone age.

No one knows for sure what kind of Indian response will follow since as per the reports till now, Chinese had started it in the first place. India giving it back hereafter may or may not happen.
*But I have a feeling that this moment will define our future relationship with China.
*China has lost the plot and the dominating position that it has always been very proud of.
*Chinese talking peace, so soon after a skirmish, is unusual and it tells us a thing or two*.

Reported for anti-Chinese racism.

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

I too want modi to rule india till he dies.

It will not good for Pakistan. Because Modi Ji is Icchaddhari (Please google it)

In Pakistani matters he becomes Sunny Deol.
In Chinese matters he becomes Sunny Leone

 

[Areesh]

It's after Balakot. Balakot happened before that.

To balakot main kaun sa teer mara tha?

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

To balakot main kaun sa teer mara tha?

Kyun Kauve to maare the as per Pakistani News.

 

[truthfollower]

Is there any English Chinese forum? Better go read their side of story? Every one is just trolling here

 

[Imran Khan]

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It will not good for Pakistan. Because Modi Ji is Icchaddhari (Please google it)

In Pakistani matters he becomes Sunny Deol.
In Chinese matters he becomes Sunny Leone

On the contrary, I want him to continue demonizing Pakistan and blowing hot air. In reality he won't mess with Pakistan because he can't. All talk and no show. Unknowingly, modi has done more for Pakistan than any of our leaders have for the past 60 years. It's almost as if modi is a Manchurian candidate for the ISI.

Ideally, it won't be good for Pakistan should congress get in to power again in india within the next 10 years.

 

[Areesh]

Kyun Kauve to maare the as per Pakistani News.

To bas kawwai hi marai thai

Woh to charrai wali bandooq sai bhi maar laitai

4 spice bomb waste kar diye us k liye

Abhinandan ko kut alag parhi

 

[Zohair Alam]

Okay so I went through some of the pages in this thread. And here are my observations:

1. It's scientifically proved on PDF that Chinese soldiers are immortal, they can never die. Especially during a border stand off with India.

2. All Indian media is truthful on odd days. On even days, they are non reliable.

3. Only CCP can tell the truth in today's world. CCP controlled state media can only utter gospels. Other sources (especially US media quoting US intelligence) are non reliable (they will become reliable as soon as they talk about Indian causalities though).

4. It is unanimously agreed that this skirmish between India and China is clearly a Pakistan's victory hands down.

There you go.

Do you really take it if indian soldiers inflicted equal or more damage on Chinese side would they be issued an instruction to use weapons of choice against Chinese next time? Or that

1. a panic skype meeting

2. observe two mins of silence

3. no categorical reference to name of adversary

4. calling of all parties session

What did Modi do to your brains? Seriously.

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

Is there any English Chinese forum? Better go read their side of story? Every one is just trolling here

This is best place to read all the stories. But if you want you can go to twitter.

 

[Imran Khan]

Kyun Kauve to maare the as per Pakistani News.

seee first we Pakistanis are good we beat indian pilot then treat him in hospital serve him tea
Chinese are other thing they simply killed them with rods and sticks

so you guys must be thankful of us