1,800 Pakistani religious scholars declare suicide bombings 'haram' in new fatwa

[Vortex]

I'm a little bit confused, the first article from Reuters is about fatwa against suicide bombing and the second article from Dawn is about terrorism...

I hope the fatwa is against terrorism. Because any sane person could easly figure out the terrorism is haram.

 

[SQ8]

1800 chameleons changed their colors.. taalian peeto saare.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

1800 chameleons changed their colors.. taalian peeto saare.

That's not fair. People change all the time. People like yourself, and I.

 

[SQ8]

That's not fair. People change all the time. People like yourself, and I.

Nope, like someone very wise said to me.. all men with religious beards cannot drive properly.. and god has shown that to be true to me.. I maintain a two car distance from any of these religious beards in a car.. one if these Muslims took two parking spots here while parked non-chalantly.. and strolled about while hus wife went into a desi store.. I was staring at him with anger but before I could admonish him.. he askd me where a mosque would be found., as it happened that store was next door to a gentleman’s club and its back door was next to the main door at this store.. I just pointed there. . And in he went..I was there for at least 2-3 minutes more and this man never came out.

This pious facade I despise more than anything, given a choice with one bullet- Id spare a pathetic hateful bhakt armed with a rifle and shoot one one of these dramas...I liken it to a choice betwen facing a rabid dog and cancer. I can fight the dog or face it.. but cancer is internal.. and these people are cancer in my eyes.

No amount of pious languages admonishing is going to change that PoV.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

Nope, like someone very wise said to me.. all men with religious beards cannot drive properly.. and god has shown that to be true to me.. I maintain a two car distance from any of these religious beards in a car.. one if these Muslims took two parking spots here while parked non-chalantly.. and strolled about while hus wife went into a desi store.. I was staring at him with anger but before I could admonish him.. he askd me where a mosque would be found., as it happened that store was next door to a gentleman’s club and its back door was next to the main door at this store.. I just pointed there. . And in he went..I was there for at least 2-3 minutes more and this man never came out.

This pious facade I despise more than anything, given a choice with one bullet- Id spare a pathetic hateful bhakt armed with a rifle and shoot one one of these dramas...I liken it to a choice betwen facing a rabid dog and cancer. I can fight the dog or face it.. but cancer is internal.. and these people are cancer in my eyes.

No amount of pious languages admonishing is going to change that PoV.

Not true. My father is friends with one of the sons of major raja aziz Bhatti shaheed. He's a very pious and religious person with a long beard. He came to visit us a few weeks back and drove perfectly fine when it was slippery outside

 

[SQ8]

Not true. My father is friends with one of the sons of major raja aziz Bhatti shaheed. He's a very pious and religious person with a long beard. He came to visit us a few weeks back and drove perfectly fine when it was slippery outside

How do you know he is pious? Unless Allah decides to send you a report card.. all you have is what you see.

I don’t care whether these people have a black prayer burn on their forehead or claim to be born right inside the Hatim.. its their ideas and intolerance that I see.. and in all my experiences.. bad driving.. unless there is some fate that I am to bump into all the hypocrites with beards and speak and fight against them.. I accept that task wholeheartedly.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

How do you know he is pious? Unless Allah decides to send you a report card.. all you have is what you see.

I don’t care whether these people have a black prayer burn on their forehead or claim to be born right inside the Hatim.. its their ideas and intolerance that I see.. and in all my experiences.. bad driving.. unless there is some fate that I am to bump into all the hypocrites with beards and speak and fight against them.. I accept that task wholeheartedly.

You don't need a report card. Allah has given us the capacity to judge on our own i.e. To use our brain, something that is missing worldwide. Using this excuse for personal reasons leads to nowhere. Are you going to call every officer/jawan in the Pakistan army with a long beard intolerant and attack him? Who gave you the right to back bite an entire group with one specific characteristic. That itself is 1) intolerance and 2) stereotypical.

 

[SQ8]

You don't need a report card. Allah has given us the capacity to judge on our own. Using this excuse for personal reasons leads to nowhere. Are you going to call every officer in the Pakistan army with a long beard intolerant? Who gave you the right to back bite an entire group with one specific characteristic. That itself is 1) intolerance and 2) stereotypical.

You just did, after all if we can judge a man’s report card like Allah.. and I see their views as intolerant of everyone else .. then I can be tolerant of everyone else except them..
And please do not drag Army or not army into this.. I despise it all over Pakistan... lets not stereotype the Army.. although there is a nice episode on these girgits by ACdre Mansoor Shah in his book.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

You just did, after all if we can judge a man’s report card like Allah.. and I see their views as intolerant of everyone else .. then I can be tolerant of everyone else except them..
And please do not drag Army or not army into this.. I despise it all over Pakistan... lets not stereotype the Army.. although there is a nice episode on these girgits by ACdre Mansoor Shah in his book.

My message is do not generalise. I'm not saying there are not ones like how you are speaking of. Generalising makes one look like a fool. No different than one in the south of the US.

The army was only one example. I wanted to see how you would react and you reacted exactly how I thought you would.

You're acting like the people you speak against lol.

 

[newb3e]

Allah ho akbar molvi keh mou say haq baat nikal gaye qayamat kareeb hai!

 

[SQ8]

My message is do not generalise. I'm not saying there are not ones like how you are speaking of. Generalising makes one look like a fool. No different than one in the south of the US.

The army was only one example. I wanted to see how you would react and you reacted exactly how I thought you would.

You're acting like the people you speak against lol.

The second paragraph seems like a sheepish retreat..

And no, the people I speak of hate everyone who doesn’t look like them, I hate everyone who looks like them.
Completely different scopes of generalizations.

 

[WaLeEdK2]

The second paragraph seems like a sheepish retreat..

And no, the people I speak of hate everyone who doesn’t look like them, I hate everyone who looks like them.
Completely different scopes of generalizations.

That's my point generalisation again. Hate is a strong term. I would've gone with if you said : "some do not agree with what everyone else looks like." Of course a lot of them are as you speak of.

Your concept would've worked if they all thought the way you think they do.

PS; retreat is not answering a simple question as you have failed to do. Avoidance by excuse is the term.

Abdul Sattar Edhi had a long beard as well. But hey if you want to generalise him too then go for it.