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While the batch 1 were designated OPVs to light corvette, i thing the batch 2 are just corvettes

The Levent and Gokdeniz ER should be ready soon. Until then, id imagine you will see Gokdeniz CIWS in that station which would allow for easy flip to the ER (which is their version of Sea-RAM) .

For Batch 1,i think best HQ-10 is not likely possible d/t china/nato issues. RAM is not likely possible d/t Pakistan/US issues. Honestly best senario for these IF you really need PDMS is wait for Turkish Levent PDMS. That said, these ships were a big mistake for PN. They shouldn't have gotten...

No i think these will be full fledged corvettes. The batch I were supposed to be hybrid corvette/OPV and they are probably overkill for OPV and not really great layout for corvettes. But they will do for now. These with a VLS and a layout more conducive for a better firing arc on the CIWS or...

Major problem with TFX for Pakistan is the powerplant. Pakistan will likely not be able to get F110... Pakistan needs ITAR Free systems, especially for strategic assets, and im not sure the Eurojet derivative Rolls Royce was supposed to develop with Turkey would be a viable solution unless...

Would be nice, but if im not wrong, FM-3000N is not navalized and its hasnt been adopted by PLAN which may make PN reluctant about it. Also depth of the VLS may play a role as im not sure how much space is available below deck (though i bet there is a way to have the launcher partially above...

This is more like what these vessels should have been if they were going to be true corvettes. The other 2 should be exclusively used for policing and anti-piracy

Issue is that currently, in PLAN, only the LY-80 is in service (HQ-16A). When the B variant will come to naval service is unknown, let alone the F/FE variant. So doubt we will see these in PN any time soon. But i agree that PN needs more on these than the standard HQ-16A.

Absolutely, which makes me wonder what was the actual thought process with this vessel and are its design limitations why they went with the slightly larger version in the next flight? I think this ship is great as a gunboat/cutter but i dont think it should be geared like its going to fight...

I think you mean the reverse. But 100%,this ship should be kept as an OPV... FINE, but it was not supposed to be a full fledged corvette. Its overall design is not conducive to it given the verticle stacks on each side prevent a complete protection provided by the phanlanx. That could have been...

Tell him to pay his taxes and same for all his supporters before mouthing off this bullshit.

2 way street. They are still very dependent on Pakistan for security assurances those can also be revoked and placed behind iran. And lets be a little clear, the aid was never unconditional. Also they attacked Yemen, it wasnt the other way around. Houthis retaliation was to be expected. And...

The big problem for the word ToT as it is understood here is that people here think all ToT means you can start printing out subs/aircraft ect. The reality is that often woth ToT you only get assembly (90Bs) or partial manufacturing rights (JF-17). ALkhalid was acquired with Full TOT but core...

From my understanding, the terms of the F-20 offer was that Pakistan would ostensibly take over the full production of the aircraft including the subsystems. Not sure how true it is, but if it was, Pressler would have had limited effect on this.

Frankly having the design and production rights including the turbofan and possibly the sparrow missile would have been far better in the long run for Pakistan's defense industry. Yes it would have meant no f-16, and that situation has for the most part remied itself, but in the 90s, unfettered...

Frankly this seems fairly ineffective strategy. Most of these kind of remittances are done through investment in businesses and direct transactions to family members. Not investing in the companies hurts the development of civil society further exacerbating the issues which allow PDM to flourish.

Is this PS @Deino ? I dont think ive seen a pic of JF-17 with PL-10 which is what it looks to have on the tips.

You are asking the same question all have asked him for for nearly 10 years. Subs, land and air are suitable cruise missile platforms for NOW. If you really want to have surface ships firing off cruise missiles, like the Russian ships @Zarvan mentioned, you need to first develop a much longer...

Thats because the majority of members only think about bullets, missiles, aircraft, and subs... They think that is the entirety of defense, with no attention to the necessity of fiscal solvency and natural resource management.

What do you say @Bilal Khan (Quwa) ,have we prayed the MILDAS in the F-22P into existence too?