Kabul Rejects Pakistan Accusations Over Shrine Attack

Jugger said:

There are millions of Afghanis who just want to lead a normal life, away from violence and drugs.

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And there are many millions more who don't. Afghanistan needs to be either forcibly civilized or population neutered. They are not fit to live in a modern world. They are like the red Indians but without any morals or ethics, at least the red indians had a code of honor.

Thevar said:

im not sure ...yer proxies are that effective in toppling goverments...blow up a few ppl..yeah maybe but int he broader geopolitical view...pakistan cannot do anything to afghanistan or risk being responded by us americans

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in the recent history, lets say in last 50 years, when has us responded to any country who can even fight back with one gun and one soldier?? Iranians are daring and insulting America and Americans for last 30 years, but Iraq with dud weapons became the target.

H!TchHiker said:

Lets wait...I am still thinking why this kutta Mar muham was not executed a day before if the location of all were well known..Or a suicide bomber before blasting write a note for about location of all terrorists..

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I am just starting to wonder why all posters with one Pakistani and one Saudi flag have exactly same opinion

who cares we will continue our duties

xyxmt said:

in the recent history, lets say in last 50 years, when has us responded to any country who can even fight back with one gun and one soldier?? Iranians are daring and insulting America and Americans for last 30 years, but Iraq with dud weapons became the target.



I am just starting to wonder why all posters with one Pakistani and one Saudi flag have exactly same opinion

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Ok Lets get back to the normal coming week will prove what changes on the field..Flag has nothing to do with difference of opinions..

Saif-ud-Din Qutuz said:

Unfortunately, the minority that is in charge of Afghanistan will never consider us a brother. They think Pakistan was an integral part of Afghanistan, specially KPK.

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doesnt matter b/c it's the internationally accepted border.....that minority you talk about can do little more than squeal....or stoop low by giving haven to people like Fazlullah (it costs Afghanistan dearly)

Pakistan first. Some of the muslim countries are the bitchiest countries, worst than Israel for Pakistan.

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there are a couple that are run by puppets....but puppets dont last forever. In the case of Afghanistan especially we can see at least 3-4 examples of that

Abu Zolfiqar said:

doesnt matter b/c it's the internationally accepted border.....that minority you talk about can do little more than squeal....or stoop low by giving haven to people like Fazlullah (it costs Afghanistan dearly)




there are a couple that are run by puppets....but puppets dont last forever. In the case of Afghanistan especially we can see at least 3-4 examples of that

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That is correct. The current Afghan pro /USIndia regime won't last long. Russia and China will not let a pro US regime stay in Afghanistan anymore. Russia has already dealt with US in Syria. Now, they want to kich US out of Afghanistan as well.

Saif-ud-Din Qutuz said:

That is correct. The current Afghan pro /USIndia regime won't last long. Russia and China will not let a pro US regime stay in Afghanistan anymore. Russia has already dealt with US in Syria. Now, they want to kich US out of Afghanistan as well.

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The real priority isn't even America...it's ISIS/Daesh....With that said, it should regularly be highlighted WHO gains from Afghan taleban/rebel fighters getting weakened and ISIS/Daesh gaining foot-hold.

You can be sure China, Russia, Pakistan and Iran will NEVER allow that to happen. We are all on the same page in that respect. Even Jamat ud Dawa/Falah e Insaniat has started getting involved in publishing books and pamphlets about Daesh and their takfiri agenda......this annoys the indians especially b/c there have been many protests lately in Kashmir where Kashmiris raise the Pakistani flags....the indians have moles inside who want to villify Kashmir liberation struggle by creating a false narrative that ISIS is in Kashmir also.

It's all kind of inter-connected. There is an art behind state-craft afterall. @Horus care to chime in on this?

naveedullahkhankhattak said:

They are actually supporting them. Time for us to show what real proxy is.

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Hehehe don't you do the same with India ? Time to take war to them. Might is right.

Abu Zolfiqar said:

The real priority isn't even America...it's ISIS/Daesh....With that said, it should regularly be highlighted WHO gains from Afghan taleban/rebel fighters getting weakened and ISIS/Daesh gaining foot-hold.

You can be sure China, Russia, Pakistan and Iran will NEVER allow that to happen. We are all on the same page in that respect. Even Jamat ud Dawa/Falah e Insaniat has started getting involved in publishing books and pamphlets about Daesh and their takfiri agenda......this annoys the indians especially b/c there have been many protests lately in Kashmir where Kashmiris raise the Pakistani flags....the indians have moles inside who want to villify Kashmir liberation struggle by creating a false narrative that ISIS is in Kashmir also.

It's all kind of inter-connected. There is an art behind state-craft afterall. @Horus care to chime in on this?

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ISIS/Daesh are the American products. I don't even have 1% doubt about it. TTP had been defeated badly by Pak Army so now they're helping ISIS/Daesh be strong inside Afghanistan to launch attacks on Pakistani soil.

Saif-ud-Din Qutuz said:

ISIS/Daesh are the American products. I don't even have 1% doubt about it. TTP had been defeated badly by Pak Army so now they're helping ISIS/Daesh be strong inside Afghanistan to launch attacks on Pakistani soil.

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Afghan taleban will sort out Daesh......if they could survive NATO onslaught i'm pretty sure Daesh will not be hard to finish off either. As I said, Pakistan Russia and other countries will help knock the crap out of ISIS.

as recent events show, when Pakistan wants to retaliate when its citizens are bombed - it becomes ruthless.

Abu Zolfiqar said:

Afghan taleban will sort out Daesh......if they could survive NATO onslaught i'm pretty sure Daesh will not be hard to finish off either. As I said, Pakistan Russia and other countries will help knock the crap out of ISIS.

as recent events show, when Pakistan wants to retaliate when its citizens are bombed - it becomes ruthless.

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It is a fact. Ever since ISIS/Daesh has started operating based out of Kabul, Russia has displayed keen interest to help Pakistan KO these Khuwarijs. Russia knows who is supporting ISIS?Daesh behind the scenes. Afghan Talibans accompanied by ISI is a lethal combo, nothing can stand a chance in front of them. In Sha Allah!

Saif-ud-Din Qutuz said:

It is a fact. Ever since ISIS/Daesh has started operating based out of Kabul, Russia has displayed keen interest to help Pakistan KO these Khuwarijs. Russia knows who is supporting ISIS?Daesh behind the scenes. Afghan Talibans accompanied by ISI is a lethal combo, nothing can stand a chance in front of them. In Sha Allah!

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Mi35s armed to the teeth should come in handy soon

Abu Zolfiqar said:

Mi35s armed to the teeth should come in handy soon

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We'll be getting more from Russia once we start collaborating with them on Afghani soil. The best thing is, they'll have boots on ground strategy, training camps as well. then we pay back with interest what India and 2 other countries have done to us.

We should have left the Afghans to the Soviets. Why the hell did we help the bloody Amerikkkans win that war?

NakedLunch said:

We should have left the Afghans to the Soviets. Why the hell did we help the bloody Amerikkkans win that war?

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because at the time we were aligned with the Free World, USSR was a primary arms supplier to the enemy on the east, also supported Mukti bahini rebels diplomatically. It was a mix of strategic interests and pride.

We won then, but now times are very different; ground realities are different, strategic re-alignments taking place

Saif-ud-Din Qutuz said:

We'll be getting more from Russia once we start collaborating with them on Afghani soil. The best thing is, they'll have boots on ground strategy, training camps as well. then we pay back with interest what India and 2 other countries have done to us.

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should accidentally bombard a few of those indian "Consulates" while we're at it

naveedullahkhankhattak said:

The presidential palace on Friday rejected Pakistan’s accusations that the recent suicide attack on the Lal Shahbaz Qalandar shrine in Pakistan was masterminded from Afghanistan soil.



"Afghanistan has never allowed anyone to use its soil for terrorist activities against regional countries or its neighbors. We also expect other countries not to let insurgent groups harbor safe havens on their soil," said Shah Hussain Murtazawi, deputy spokesman of president.

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they made a fuss about cross border movements, so did we.....we fenced the border 40 feet within our side of the border and a few rogue ANA guys (who took orders from the top of their chain of command) fired on our positions. We retaliated, continued to fence the border anyways. They fired again we leveled one of their checkposts to the ground then they begged us to stop (and we did).

We carried out major operations in Swat, N.Waz. Khyber and Kurram to flush the area of the TTP rats.....asked them to nab whoever crosses. They refused. We asked them to setup at least half as many checkposts as we have on the border areas, they refused.

We asked for Fazlullah (whose operatives killed 166 school age children in Peshawar) they refuse.

When they are ready to act like a sovereign nation, they'll be treated like one. For now, they are a troubled brother high on drugs. Sometimes divine intervention and 'tough love' is the only way.