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No approval needed to set up firms abroad, Germany says on Rheinmetall's Turkey plans

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The logo of Germany's Rheinmetall AG is outside the company's headquarters in the western German city of Duesseldorf August 4, 2014. REUTERS/Wolfgang Rattay

Asked about plans to build a Rheinmetall (RHMG.DE) factory in Turkey, a German Economy Ministry spokesman said setting up a company abroad did not require permission from the German government but transferring knowledge di" data-share-img="http://s2.reutersmedia.net/resource...80&w=1200&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=LYNXMPED3I0NF" data-share="twitter,facebook,linkedin,mailArticle" data-share-id="UKKBN17L184">
Asked about plans to build a Rheinmetall (RHMG.DE) factory in Turkey, a German Economy Ministry spokesman said setting up a company abroad did not require permission from the German government but transferring knowledge did.

"Just founding a firm abroad is not subject to foreign trade law but transferring knowledge to a firm abroad, for example, which also happens if you start up production, is subject to foreign trade law and would need to be approved by us," a spokesman for the Economy Ministry said on Wednesday.

Rheinmetall started making plans for a factory in Turkey more two years ago. The group's CEO Armin Papperger told German newspaper Tagesspiegel last month that it was not yet producing anything.

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Protesters deploy tank against German-Turkish arms deal

Peace protesters brought a (decommissioned) tank to Rheinmetall's annual general meeting in Berlin. The German weapons manufacturer wants to avoid controls on arms exports by building tank factories in Turkey.

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It had been a while since a tank appeared outside the German Defense Ministry, but a Leopard 1 rolled up to the military's political headquarters in Berlin on Tuesday morning, along with about a hundred protesters - some wearing masks and others covered from head to foot in cartoons and slogans - from a panoply of peace organizations and political parties.
Bothering ministry officials turned out to be a bonus, because the flag-waving campaigners from Campact, Aktion Aufschrei (Action Outcry), the Greens and the Left party were actually there to spoil the party for the stockholders of Rheinmetall - one of Germany's biggest military firms - who had gathered on the other side of the road for their annual general meeting in the Maritim Hotel.
The location of the AGM was also convenient for former Defense Minister Franz Josef Jung, who was confirmed to Rheinmetall's executive board on Tuesday. The former Christian Democrat politician was seen rushing past the demo into his old ministry before dodging back out again and into the hotel - followed by a chorus of boos.

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Protesters were out in force between the Defense Ministry and the Maritim Hotel

The decommissioned Leopard 1, rented from a specialist service in Brandenburg, was one of those that Rheinmetall had helped manufacture when it was the German military's standard tank during its production between 1964 and 1984. Several hundred Bundeswehr Leopards were sold on to Turkey in the early 1980s, and now Rheinmetall is looking to strengthen its connection with the long-standing client - despite the increasing authoritarian bent of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Dodging export controls
Perhaps to spare the German government the embarrassment of approving more sales that could violate national guidelines against exporting arms to countries that commit human rights abuses, Rheinmetall has recently come up with a new plan to get its military technology to Turkey: by partnering with local companies to build factories there.
Journalists from "Stern" magazine, the investigative group Correctiv and the Turkish exile outlet Ozguruz revealed in March that Rheinmetall was helping to build a tank factory in Turkey by contributing 40 percent of a new joint venture named RBSS - along with the Turkish automaker BMC and the Malaysian company Holding Etika Strategi.
Rheinmetall initially defended the plan as legitimate on the grounds that Turkey is a "fully integrated NATO partner." But the political climate has grown worse: In March it emerged that Germany's government had blocked the sales of some small arms and ammunition to Turkey, citing concerns over conflicts with Kurdish groups and human rights abuses. And, in August, several media outlets reported that Turkey's government had used tanks to attack Kurdish militias in northern Syria.
Some protesters re-enacted the casualties caused by German weapons abroad

Rheinmetall's partnership with the country has some history. Back in May 2015, the company signed a memorandum of understanding with the Turkish firm MKEK to develop new weapons systems and ammunition.
But, speaking to "Die Zeit" in April, a company spokesman appeared to acknowledge the friction between Berlin and Ankara. "In the current political constellation, it is completely open whether this cooperation will happen, and if so when," he told the newspaper.
Satisfied shareholders
Despite this uncertainty, shareholders sitting in the Maritim Hotel on Tuesday had every reason to celebrate: Rheinmetall has just reported a 61 percent rise in first quarter earnings - prompting a lucrative rise in the share price.
Outside at the demo, Barbara Happe of co-organizers Urgewald, was preparing her notes before speaking to the shareholders. (Arms protesters often buy a single share in German manufacturers to give them the right to address their yearly assemblies.)


"The dissatisfaction among human rights groups and the population at large is growing because people think that, under the current political circumstances, Turkey should not be armed even more, and shouldn't be supported in building up its own defense industry," she told DW. "Turkey is transforming more and more into an autocracy - especially after the referendum."
"The problem is that Rheinmetall is following a very skillful strategy," she added. "These aren't exports, but joint ventures, which means they want to develop new ammunition and new kinds of tanks with local partners, so that they don't need approval from the German government."
Still, the government could apply pressure in other ways, Happe suggested, for instance by excluding Rheinmetall from German military contracts.


Lühr Henken, spokesman for the Network of the German Peace Movement, had a simpler idea: "The government could make a political statement and say that Rheinmetall shouldn't take part in this joint venture, just as it has said (in response to another Turkish referendum) that you can't campaign in favor of the death penalty in Germany."

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German Weapons Giant Plans to Arm Ankara With New Turkish Panzer Factory

EUROPE 16:50 25.04.2017(updated 17:02 25.04.2017)

The German arms supplier Rheinmetall plans to build a factory in Turkey to produce tanks for the Turkish army despite concerns from opposition parties that the production will contravene German laws on arms exports.

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Germany's largest supplier of military technology, Rheinmetall, is in talks with the Turkish authorities about building an arms factory in Turkey that will produce Panzers and other equipment for the Turkish army, the German newspaper Die Zeit reports.A source told the newspaper that the Turkish army wants to increase the anti-missile protection of its Leopard 2A4 tanks, which have suffered significant damage in anti-Daesh operations in Syria.
Turkey wants the new factory to "upgrade older Leopard 2A4 tanks, which came from the Bundeswehr, with protective equipment that increases the safety of the crew," a source told Die Zeit.
The Rheinmetall Group made €2,946 million in defense sales last year, a 14 percent increase over its 2015 revenue. Rheinmetall Defense produces weapons, ammunition and armored vehicle systems including the Leopard battle tank, the Puma infantry fighting vehicle and the PzH 2000 self-propelled howitzer.
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It bills itself as "a longstanding partner of the armed forces of Germany, its NATO allies and other likeminded nations."
The company, which has already increased its presence in "NATO partner country Turkey," a spokesman said, with the creation of a Turkish subsidiary, Rhinemetall Defense Turkey.
At the International Defense Industry Fair in Ankara in May 2015, Rheinmetall signed a memorandum of understanding on a joint venture with Turkish arms supplier MKEK to produce weapon systems and ammunition.
In addition, Rhinemetall also has a 90 percent stake in Turkish firm Atel Technology and Defense Industry and a 40 percent stake in defense and transportation firm BMC.
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According to German research center Correctiv, "The owner of Rheinmetall's Turkish partner company BMC is the former journalist and die-hard Erdogan supporter Ethem Sancak. He was able to acquire BMC from the state in 2014."While the German government remains tight-lipped on Rheinmetall's plans for expansion in Turkey, opposition groups have spoken out in opposition of the move.
The Greens, which tabled a parliamentary question on the matter, accuse the government of allowing Rheinmetall to move production abroad in order to get around Germany's regulations on arms exports.
The Ministry for Economic Affairs and Energy replied that "the federal government has held no concrete talks regarding the participation of Rheinmetall in tank construction in Turkey."
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Left Party spokesman Jan van Aken called the construction of a factory to build German weapons in Turkey "a real scandal."
"The government is watching a loophole being used here for the export of know-how, this is a real scandal," he said. "If such cooperative transactions are legal, that shows that the German armament export control is a bad joke."
The Berlin-based pressure group Facing Finance told Die Zeit that building the factory would be hypocritical given Germany's criticism of Turkey's crackdown on dissent following a failed military coup last July.
"Turkish military tanks are already being used against Kurdish minorities and civilian protestors. This approach indicates what Rheinmetall's weapons will be used in the future," the group said.
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Last month, Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger told the Tagespiegel newspaper that the Turkish government was keen for defense manufacturing to move to Turkey."Contractors are not politicians. The Turkish government wants us not only to deliver to Turkey but also to produce something in Turkey," Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger told the Tagespiegel newspaper last month.


"We started the planning more than two years ago, but we are not producing anything there yet. This concerns two areas, vehicle systems and ammunition," Papperger explained.

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201704251052981542-german-weapons-turkey-factory/
 
So Rheinmetall is going to build ammunition and upgrade our Leos.
 
they should search for alternatives we must have more ties to south korea.. I think erdo is teaming up with germans for political pseudo gain.. it will bring him nothing they will never change.. while they are banning arms to us our dogs are happy to bring them into our homeland and embrace them kiss them and give them money..

but more ties with S. Korea and Japan is better for us
 
Yeah but it seems like Rheinmetall is working on a way around the ban.
they should search for alternatives we must have more ties to south korea.. I think erdo is teaming up with germans for political pseudo gain.. it will bring him nothing they will never change.. while they are banning arms to us our dogs are happy to bring them into our homeland and embrace them kiss them and give them money..

but more ties with S. Korea and Japan is better for us

It is a difficult situation. There is a pseudo tourist embargo. The reason people in tourism branche in EU told me is that Germans want the tourists want leave their money e.g. in Bulgaria ( e.g. price for Varna Gold beach should be up to 1600 Euros , where it was 2 years ago 600 years, same is for Croatia and Greece).

If an official embargo is announced, all ways around would be a "crime".
You can Google H&K stopped delivering not only cause of GOV. restrictions but also cause copy cating some of their products, they created a so called green list.
 
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