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White people vomit is lovely and brown/black people spitting is bad. You get my point?
lol... if only you knew the truth.. am sure you will one day.. you can come back and thank all my posts here... :)
 
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lol... if only you knew the truth.. am sure you will one day.. you can come back and thank all my posts here... :)
I know only you have ability to see the truth.
 
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I know only you have ability to see the truth.
unfortunately if I go by pdf posts... I am among very few who can see the truth it seems... or at least write it here.. its a weird superpower to have... ha ha

So you are saying these pics are wrong?
no they are not wrong..
dude, just go to thailand. its cheap. thats all i can suggest. :)
 
well, why dont you visit thailand.. its nearby.. and its not that developed country.. see the difference in attitude/manner regarding cleanliness.
I understand you lack outside perspective... I cant say much about how to get it.

...a good thing then that Thailand was never invaded by Islamic barbarians that destroyed their society :coffee:

A good thing that Thailand was the ONLY country in South Asia and southeast Asia to avoid Colonial rule.

Now look again at the Culture / religion / language / attitude / manner of Thai people and tell me its not Hindu / buddhist. :coffee:
 
Ok my work is finished here. Have a happy life in UK ,bye.
i can imagine you doing a victory dance.. you win mate... you are a winner... :)

...a good thing then that Thailand was never invaded by Islamic barbarians that destroyed their society :coffee:

A good thing that Thailand was the ONLY country in South Asia and southeast Asia to avoid Colonial rule.

Now look again at the Culture / religion / language / attitude / manner of Thai people and tell me its not Hindu / buddhist. :coffee:
now you blame muslim conquest for filth... interesting thought.
that will mean you are accepting that it is filthy...
I am not willing to argue about 'why' bit (I have reservations)... its hard enough to argue about 'what' bit ...
 
now you blame muslim conquest for filth... interesting thought.
that will mean you are accepting that it is filthy...
I am not willing to argue about 'why' bit ... but its hard enough to argue about 'what' bit ...

Not "blame", assign responsibility based on history.

I never claimed India is not dirty in parts, only its a much better place for Indians to live if they are successful due to the better quality of life they can have. (not measured in money alone)
 
Not "blame", assign responsibility based on history.

I never claimed India is not dirty in parts, only its a much better place for Indians to live if they are successful due to the better quality of life they can have. (not measured in money alone)
we are talking about cities and towns here, not hill resorts... there is regional variation among states but if you go from developed country like UK.. its all the same.. its all filth and garbage.
 
we are talking about cities and towns here, not hill resorts... there is regional variation among states but if you go from developed country like UK.. its all the same.. its all filth and garbage.

You are talking about Tourists. I am not. I am talking about people living here.

I am talking about the garbage collector collecting the garbage from right outside my apartment complex , my watchman washing my car everyday, my milkman delivering the milk everyday, the watchman who also irons my dress twice a week, the newspaper guy who drops the daily paper outside my door, the security guard who salutes me while I go to work, the maid who comes to clean my house, do my dishes, clean my bathroom, the grocery boy who delivers the groceries to my house with just one phone call, the electrician and plumber who come every sunday to my apartment to repair stuff, the postman who drops mail right outside my door, the delivery boy who delivers my groceries when I purchase it from the super market, etc. etc.

The quality of life for a middle class guy is far superior to that you can get in the UK.
 
You are talking about Tourists. I am not. I am talking about people living here.

I am talking about the garbage collector collecting the garbage from right outside my apartment complex , my watchman washing my car everyday, my milkman delivering the milk everyday, the watchman who also irons my dress twice a week, the newspaper guy who drops the daily paper outside my door, the security guard who salutes me while I go to work, the maid who comes to clean my house, do my dishes, clean my bathroom, the grocery boy who delivers the groceries to my house with just one phone call, the electrician and plumber who come every sunday to my apartment to repair stuff, the postman who drops mail right outside my door, the delivery boy who delivers my groceries when I purchase it from the super market, etc. etc.

The quality of life for a middle class guy is far superior to that you can get in the UK.
well gated communities could be islands of peace and tranquility that Indians build for themselves which is good but it removes the problem of outside world from their mind... I have been to campuses in India which are neat and clean and beautiful... but how long is it possible to live in such cocoons... and lets not forget only a minority of people have access to such facilities(not talking about domestic help as such)... an army of low paid labour can make your life slightly bearable(although personally I take pride in doing everything myself) I agree.
things like air pollution affects everybody rich and poor and you cant build gates to stop it....
anyway most indians are insensitized to the problem and have found solution at personal level to tackle it... and if they succeed they tell others 'hey make more money and live in gated communities like me'.

Somebody told me in south africa, most people who can afford live behind electrified fences, the crime is so bad. Similar in India, when it comes to cleanliness.
 
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well gated communities could be islands of peace and tranquility that Indians build for themselves which is good but it removes the problem of outside world from their mind... I have been to campuses in India which are neat and clean and beautiful... but how long is it possible to live in such cocoons... and lets not forget only a minority of people have access to such facilities(not talking about domestic help as such)... an army of low paid labour can make your life slightly bearable(although personally I take pride in doing everything myself) I agree.
things like air pollution affects everybody rich and poor and you cant build gates to stop it....

Most middle class apartments have become gated communities in cities.

This is not a "cocoon", the ghettos and slums are cocoons. Gated communities are the reality of Indian cities.

I have already concede that pollution is the only area where its difficult to find a speedier solution to match the west. But hopefully my children will live in a better India.
 
Most middle class apartments have become gated communities in cities.

This is not a "cocoon", the ghettos and slums are cocoons. Gated communities are the reality of Indian cities.

I have already concede that pollution is the only area where its difficult to find a speedier solution to match the west. But hopefully my children will live in a better India.
no.. you still dont get it.. lets not even go to Indian ghettos and slums.. I am asserting rest of India IS slum.. by UK standard.. except the islands of gated communities.
and no, gated communities are not the main dwelling place for most middle class Indians in cities.. again I have been to India.. so these sort of lies wont work. sorry.
and you need to step out of gated communities every day.. not hide in there.. then what? I know your answer, you got a car and a driver... you are a winner.. :)
 
no.. you still dont get it.. lets not even go to Indian ghettos and slums.. I am asserting rest of India IS slum.. by UK standard.. except the islands of gated communities.
and no, gated communities are not the main dwelling place for most middle class Indians in cities.. again I have been to India.. so these sort of lies wont work. sorry.
and you need to step out of gated communities every day.. not hide in there.. then what? I know your answer, you got a car and a driver... you are a winner.. :)

.....you are free to make yourself feel better about your choices by denigrating India and "feeling lucky" to have got out of here :lol:

But most new apartments that come up in cities are what you call a "gated community". More importantly, these facilities exist even in non gated communities in India.

The car cleaner, the dhobi, the milkman, the garbage man, the maid, grocery boy etc is universal for all middle class families pan India. The only person who would not know about this is someone who has never lived in a middle class family before.

What I have stated is the rule, not the exceptions.
 

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