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any proof from december 2012 that he was known to be muslim??
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any proof from december 2012 that he was known to be muslim??
Nah there were discussion no amendments have been made if am not wrong.Here its more about Indian Judiciary system and NDA Government if i remember correctly have made some amendments in the Juveline act.
here is a link from 2013, can't be too bothered to fully please you kindly help yourself for full satisfaction.any proof from december 2012 that he was known to be muslim??
bahar nikelte hi thook dothat cockroach will be coming out of Jail soon ? Fcuk that...
Maybe radicalization should be used to arrest him again
bahar nikelte hi thook do
before too, you have blamed wto for farmer suicides in india... can you explain??
@Hindustani78 nobody knows about rape statistics.. and its difficult to compare between countries.. what I am certain is India has more prevalence of rape than UK. Its not specifically rape that the problem, the whole mentality towards women is a problem. Its not perfect in UK, but women feel much safer here.
I think law and order needs to improve a lot. I dont think strict sentence will deter rapists. NDA's idea is cheap(wins people's vote) but useless. I dont blame NDA of course, law and order is state issue.
Does it matters ?
Nah there were discussion no amendments have been made if am not wrong.
here is a link from 2013, can't be too bothered to fully please you kindly help yourself for full satisfaction.
Juvenile in Delhi gang-rape and murder case pleads not guilty to charges | Asia | News | The Independent
In 1998, around the inception of mass farmer suicides
A recent study by the Madras Institute of Development Studies on farmer suicides indicates that more than 150,000 farmers committed suicides between 1997 and 2005
A recent study by the Madras Institute of Development Studies on farmer suicides indicates that more than 150,000 farmers committed suicides between 1997 and 2005
While most know Punjab as the land of plenty of green and yellow fields, big glasses of lassi and butter, thanks to Bollywood, not many know that in the last 20 years, over 40,000 farmers have committed suicide in the state. This is what Anwar's film that has been shown in festivals across the world deals with.
According to a report, 200,000 farmers have ended their lives since 1997 and it is said the rise in indebtedness is the root cause of farmer suicides.
WTO decided in 2000 that India would have to remove trade barriers that previously protected its own, local producers. Ever since, Indian farmers have found it harder and harder to survive. Products that they once produced for the home market are now undercut by cheaper imported alternatives.
You have saved your farmers by making it illegal for foreigners to own more than five hectares—how on earth can an Indian farmer compete with an Australian farmer with 50,000 hectares? In history, India has been one of the great agricultural nations of the world—you have the land, the people, weather—God gave you everything. And then, he also gave you Delhi to mess it all up.
and today one farmer is committing suicide every 32 minutes. therefore demand for a complete debt relief not only from institutional debt but also of private money lenders.
those two dates are contradictory.
from ( Peepli Live is not about farmers - NDTV Movies )...
so...
1. the article is from 2010 and indicates tha punjab was known to have farmer suicides since 1990 at least.
2. the official number of farmers who suicided is not 150,000 but 200,000 ( at least ) and it "started" in 1997.
thing is, farmers surely would have been suiciding for economic reasons since 1947, just that only a few people ( the socialists, especially naxals mainly ) looked at the economic oppression in the countryside... the rest, especially the congress governments and the sanghis portrayed the indian countryside as a idyllic, jolly place and coined propagandist/false slogans like "jai jawan, jai kisan" and hid the true facts.
the urban people know of farmer suicides mostly in the last five years or so.
from what i wrote above, wto doesn't have any direct role in farmer suicides in india.
besides...
from ( Jim Rogers exits India, says one can’t invest just on hope - Livemint )...
the article is from september 2015 and jim rogers is talking about protectionism in indian agriculture sector... unlike russia, foreign individual farmers ( or companies ) cannot own much land in india via government regulation... good, but then almost all indian-owned farms in india are really non-collectivized ( because non-socialist system ) small holdings which cannot on their own become exporters.
so again, wto doesn't have a role... this mess is totally a indian establishment affair.
debt-relief is a temporary thing... i think karnataka government is thinking on that line, but for permanent solution, a proper socialist welfare system ( across society ) must be established... there will be zero suicides then, of farmers and non-farmers.
as example,below is how any citizen ( and by consequence, farmers ) in libyan jamahiriya lived...
1. any person interested in engaging in farming was given free land by the system, along with seeds, tools needed and housing, for free.
2. electricity and water was free ( that too in a largely desert country ), and libya had history's largest irrigation system, "the great man-made river" project ( gmrr ).
3. housing for any citizen was to be lived rent-free until the resident wished... rent was considered a compromise on the freedom of the citizen and therefore anti-human.
4. medical system was free, and if treatment was available outside, the costs would be borne by the system.
5. education system was free, and if that course was available outside, the costs would be borne by the system.
6. education was of one's choice and could not be forced by parents or circumstance.
7. food was at low cost.
8. any person interested in establishing a business was given a start-up amount of 20,000 dollars, interest-free.
9. all loans were interest-free.
10. no private banks operated in libya.
11. for a person not in employment, he or she was given the average salary ( stipend ) for the person's choice of field of employment... in fact, this was a coming-down in later years from the early days of the al-fatah revolution... in 1979, a unemployed person was given 7000 dollars per month !!
12. libyan jamahiriya being socialist, all wasteful traditions were frowned upon, like 600-guest four-day weddings like what happens in south asia.
13. at weddings, the bride and groom were together given 50,000 dollars to help them set up a new home etc.
14. car purchase was subsidized by the system.
so tell me, why would any farmer suicide in libyan jamahiriya, when his material needs had been taken care by the system, leaving him spiritually at ease ??
It is completely unjust that in India, juveniles are not tried as adults for crimes like these. This seventeen and a half year old "juvenile" deserved the noose.
may be they can reduce juvenile age to 17. They cant do it retrospectively though.It is completely unjust that in India, juveniles are not tried as adults for crimes like these. This seventeen and a half year old "juvenile" deserved the noose.
may be they can reduce juvenile age to 17. They cant do it retrospectively though.
in UK the age is 10 to 17.
‘Unsure if justice done in Nirbhaya case’ - The Hindu
Updated: November 3, 2015 01:33 IST
Ahead of the release of the juvenile convict in the Nirbhaya gangrape case next month, Union Minister Maneka Gandhi has expressed helplessness in extending punishment to him. While the law was adhered to, she was not sure whether justice was done in this most gruesome case.
She advocated that a “close watch” be kept on the accused after he is freed on his completing the sentence. She would raise this issue with the authorities.
“Let us not confuse justice with the law. The law said that he could only go to a children’s home... That’s the anomaly we are trying to correct. So he served his sentence and, in accordance with the law, he is coming out. And there is nothing we can do about it until or unless he commits another crime. So that is all we can do.
“I don’t know whether justice has been served, but certainly the law has been adhered to,” the Minister said. “Yes, I am afraid we are,” she said when asked if the government was waiting for him to commit another crime.
“He is a person who should be kept under watch. We can’t just let him go and wait for him to do something else,” she said.
The juvenile found guilty in the 2012 Delhi gangrape will be released on December 15. He has turned 21 and will complete his three-year term at the prohibition centre.
At 17-and-a-half, he was the youngest of six men who raped and brutally tortured the 23-year-old medical student on a moving bus in the capital.
The victim died 13 days later in a hospital in Singapore, where she was taken for treatment by the government.
Four other men found guilty in the case are on death row.