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Bashar Asad speech:
MEMRI: Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad: Nuclear Deal Is a Victory for Iran

At min 3:13 mentions Iran assistance and in 5:18 gives example of Iran enduring difficulties to reach her right! At 5:40 mentions this which is strange:
He says: "What is important to me is the context ...How Iran made to this victory ... Whether or not we like Iran , whether or not we agree with it... It has achieved a great victory ..."as if the audience do not like Iran and he is distancing himself of being Iran fan. His tone to Hizbullah and the audience response was ecstatic and a lot of clapping and totally different ...

Why does he need to say so and playing down Iran so much. Do Syrian politicians and public hate Iran or is Iran a liability for Assad? I expected something else and a different tone ... I thought they owe us a lot!

At 5:45 e mentions why Iran succeeded ... and etc ..
 
Bashar Asad speech:
MEMRI: Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad: Nuclear Deal Is a Victory for Iran

At min 3:13 mentions Iran assistance and in 5:18 gives example of Iran enduring difficulties to reach her right! At 5:40 mentions this which is strange:
He says: "What is important to me is the context ...How Iran made to this victory ... Whether or not we like Iran , whether or not we agree with it... It has achieved a great victory ..."as if the audience do not like Iran and he is distancing himself of being Iran fan. His tone to Hizbullah and the audience response was ecstatic and a lot of clapping and totally different ...

Why does he need to say so and playing down Iran so much. Do Syrian politicians and public hate Iran or is Iran a liability for Assad? I expected something else and a different tone ... I thought they owe us a lot!

At 5:45 e mentions why Iran succeeded ... and etc ..
Many in Assad's government believe that he's handed over the sovereignty of Syria to both Iran and Hezbullah, and he's merely a puppet now. This has a lot of merit, as Assad has basically handed over a lot of ministries to Hezbullah and IRGC members, and has basically put the armed forces under Hezbullah's wings (subordiate). Either way, his speeches are getting more and more desperate, and rightly so. Syrian military forces are around half the strength they were before the war, with many Syrians either joining opposition forces, or just dodging drafts.

With the FSA controlling the western areas of Syria, and ISIS(+ it's allies) controlling the north and east of Syria, Assad is fighting a multi-front war, that even if he wins, he will end up ruling over a destroyed country, which will never truly recover under his rule.
 
To add on to @That Guy 's analysis, Syria has become playground for regional neighbors interests. Turkey has an interest along it's border with Syria. Jordan has an interest on its border as well. United States has an interest for a Kurdish partner in Syria. Whilst Saudi Arabia has interest in FSA region in Syria. Assad himself, is not too much into religion or twelver Shiasm. He knows that the blabber/religious rhetoric from Iran is a cover for nationalist interests of Iran. And he got promises from Iran to back him in this conflict early on, but Iran never came to assistance him and only dedicated non-Iranian volunteers. Which won't bring any gains, it will just increase life of conflict. Iranians themselves don't want to dedicate their lives to these conflicts but it has interest in causing trouble in Arab world. But with all the rhetoric coming from Iran, it projects a serious narrative to some naive people. All the death to USA, death to Israel bullshit was a scam. Houthi's just realized they were abandoned by Iran as well.

Assad himself while brutal is smart, he knows that Iran's agenda is promoting sectarian tensions in the Arab world and having Arab shia's/Sunni's fight each other. And I'm sure he studies Iranian peoples culture. And realized that they are nationalist idiots who have this vision for a great Persian civilization and think very highly of themselves. And all the sectarian chatter and championiship of being divinely guided religious authority is meaningless.

Final point, is with nuclear deal. Iran is seeking to join capatillist word after all the rhetoric for decades. And that he can't depend on them for survival, he knows Iran will stand by and watch if Turkey intervened in Syria.
 
Not at all. He is saying the truth in a respectful manner both to his people, the Arabs and towards Iran. In fact he is presenting Iran as a role model for Syria and Arabs. As for the part "whether we like it or not", this was a diplomatic message to other Arabs, "enslaved and shackled". Those who ought to, got the message.

Without Iran's help, Syria would have been taken over by Isis and FSA which is al-Qaeda and would have been a worse place than Afghanistan under Taliban. Even Iraq is the same story. And by extension Lebanon, Turkey, Kurds and even Jordan have to thank Iran, otherwise they would all be in a deep mess now, if not for Iran.

PS. Please also note that Memri is not impartial. You can see at 6:02 they cut the clip just when crowds start clapping on Iran issue. Anyways these things are not important. What is important is the reality on the ground.
 
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Not at all. He is saying the truth in a respectful manner both to his people, the Arabs and towards Iran. In fact he is presenting Iran as a role model for Syria and Arabs. As for the part "whether we like it or not", this was a diplomatic message to other Arabs, "enslaved and shackled". Those who ought to, got the message.

Without Iran's help, Syria would have been taken over by Isis and FSA which is al-Qaeda and would have been a worse place than Afghanistan under Taliban. Even Iraq is the same story. And by extension Lebanon, Turkey, Kurds and even Jordan have to thank Iran, otherwise they would all be in a deep mess now, if not for Iran.

Iran didn't fight the war, Arabs(SAA/Hezbollah/Iraqi's) did. So nobody is thanking Iran. ISIS would've been in control of Syria by now if it wasn't for US intervention.
 
To add on to @That Guy 's analysis, Syria has become playground for regional neighbors interests. Turkey has an interest along it's border with Syria. Jordan has an interest on its border as well. United States has an interest for a Kurdish partner in Syria. Whilst Saudi Arabia has interest in FSA region in Syria. Assad himself, is not too much into religion or twelver Shiasm. He knows that the blabber/religious rhetoric from Iran is a cover for nationalist interests of Iran. And he got promises from Iran to back him in this conflict early on, but Iran never came to assistance him and only dedicated non-Iranian volunteers. Which won't bring any gains, it will just increase life of conflict. Iranians themselves don't want to dedicate their lives to these conflicts but it has interest in causing trouble in Arab world. But with all the rhetoric coming from Iran, it projects a serious narrative to some naive people. All the death to USA, death to Israel bullshit was a scam. Houthi's just realized they were abandoned by Iran as well.

Assad himself while brutal is smart, he knows that Iran's agenda is promoting sectarian tensions in the Arab world and having Arab shia's/Sunni's fight each other. And I'm sure he studies Iranian peoples culture. And realized that they are nationalist idiots who have this vision for a great Persian civilization and think very highly of themselves. And all the sectarian chatter and championiship of being divinely guided religious authority is meaningless.

Final point, is with nuclear deal. Iran is seeking to join capatillist word after all the rhetoric for decades. And that he can't depend on them for survival, he knows Iran will stand by and watch if Turkey intervened in Syria.

I could only pick some points from your post as I feel it has a lot of anger inside it. Anyway those that I can answer is, I think Iran wanted to commit IRGC but if it does that, it brings in Turkey and full force of GCC. Iran doesn't want to risk that as it doesn't have the logistics and the means to sustain such war especially if Turkey joins in. Today Iraq signalled that due to Turkey's presence Iran can actively attend the war and Turkey backed off and asked Nato for no fly zone 25 km deep only. It is a thug of war there on who is present on the ground. I don't think Iran likes or wants prolonged Shia/Sunni war. It didn't initiate it and doesn't benefit from it. Iran has a model of governing that only is capable of influencing if working in peace. Something the Arab governors in the region can not do. Such model is suffering in Hezbollah war and mounting casualties by Hezbollah and Iran doesn't like that. Any resources being used in this conflict reduces Iran strategic depth power, therefore your logic doesn't seem to be right.

Not at all. He is saying the truth in a respectful manner both to his people, the Arabs and towards Iran. In fact he is presenting Iran as a role model for Syria and Arabs. As for the part "whether we like it or not", this was a diplomatic message to other Arabs, "enslaved and shackled". Those who ought to, got the message.

Without Iran's help, Syria would have been taken over by Isis and FSA which is al-Qaeda and would have been a worse place than Afghanistan under Taliban. Even Iraq is the same story. And by extension Lebanon, Turkey, Kurds and even Jordan have to thank Iran, otherwise they would all be in a deep mess now, if not for Iran.

PS. Please also note that Memri is not impartial. You can see at 6:02 they cut the clip just when crowds start clapping on Iran issue. Anyways these things are not important. What is important is the reality on the ground.
Yes, I think he is trying to influence his Arab speaking audience and present his point without agitating them, knowing there is a public anger against Iran he downplays Iran as an entity and focuses on what Iran did.

Yes noticed the cut. There seem to be no other source giving access to Arab media and TV. It amazes me what one can find in this limited source.
 
To add on to @That Guy 's analysis, Syria has become playground for regional neighbors interests. Turkey has an interest along it's border with Syria. Jordan has an interest on its border as well. United States has an interest for a Kurdish partner in Syria. Whilst Saudi Arabia has interest in FSA region in Syria. Assad himself, is not too much into religion or twelver Shiasm. He knows that the blabber/religious rhetoric from Iran is a cover for nationalist interests of Iran. And he got promises from Iran to back him in this conflict early on, but Iran never came to assistance him and only dedicated non-Iranian volunteers. Which won't bring any gains, it will just increase life of conflict. Iranians themselves don't want to dedicate their lives to these conflicts but it has interest in causing trouble in Arab world. But with all the rhetoric coming from Iran, it projects a serious narrative to some naive people. All the death to USA, death to Israel bullshit was a scam. Houthi's just realized they were abandoned by Iran as well.

Assad himself while brutal is smart, he knows that Iran's agenda is promoting sectarian tensions in the Arab world and having Arab shia's/Sunni's fight each other. And I'm sure he studies Iranian peoples culture. And realized that they are nationalist idiots who have this vision for a great Persian civilization and think very highly of themselves. And all the sectarian chatter and championiship of being divinely guided religious authority is meaningless.

Final point, is with nuclear deal. Iran is seeking to join capatillist word after all the rhetoric for decades. And that he can't depend on them for survival, he knows Iran will stand by and watch if Turkey intervened in Syria.
Phuk off from Iranian section you sectarian palestini.
Syria does not belong to you terrorists.
If you were beside me I would end your life.

@rmi5
This little terrorist is still alive. :lol:
 
Not at all. He is saying the truth in a respectful manner both to his people, the Arabs and towards Iran. In fact he is presenting Iran as a role model for Syria and Arabs. As for the part "whether we like it or not", this was a diplomatic message to other Arabs, "enslaved and shackled". Those who ought to, got the message.

Without Iran's help, Syria would have been taken over by Isis and FSA which is al-Qaeda and would have been a worse place than Afghanistan under Taliban. Even Iraq is the same story. And by extension Lebanon, Turkey, Kurds and even Jordan have to thank Iran, otherwise they would all be in a deep mess now, if not for Iran.

PS. Please also note that Memri is not impartial. You can see at 6:02 they cut the clip just when crowds start clapping on Iran issue. Anyways these things are not important. What is important is the reality on the ground.

you make it sound like Syria defeated ISIS with the help of Iran , and the only reason government forces have any land left at all is thanks to Russia , Russia is the country that provided the heavy equipment and etc.

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I actually think what he is saying is very pro-Iran. He is basically saying, EVEN if you hate Iran, you have to admit that it has received a GREAT VICTORY. Thats very positive.
 
Iran didn't fight the war, Arabs(SAA/Hezbollah/Iraqi's) did. So nobody is thanking Iran. ISIS would've been in control of Syria by now if it wasn't for US intervention.
shut f**** up .you nothing more than liar and nonsense talker .



video of Iraqi arab taken by mobile in the Iranian martyrs coffins in Iran Iraq border been transferred




people like you have no Idea how many people we have lost in Syria .
what we expect from you total none sense talker loser
 
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people like you have no Idea how many people we have lost in Syria .
what we expect from you total none sense talker loser

The last video Iranian soldier coming from Qom has a strange accent. He says in the middle of his speech "kollohom" (In Arabic meaning totally ...) It doesn't sound Iranian and a fabrication, don't you agree. There were and are Iranians in Syria for sure and Martyrs coming back once in a while but Iran mainly recruited Afghanis and Iraqis for this.

Recently, ( I think 2 days ago) there was a law being discussed in Iranian parliament to give citizenship to the foreign fighters that fight for Iran much like the US law. There are many Iran recruited fighters there for sure and many Iranian commanders orchestrating the theater of war as they are master in.
 
shut f**** up .you nothing more than liar and nonsense talker .



video of Iraqi arab taken by mobile in the Iranian martyrs coffins in Iran Iraq border been transferred




people like you have no Idea how many people we have lost in Syria .
what we expect from you total none sense talker loser

So you're making up lies. If it wasn't for USA, Hezbollah and Arab world(Arabs who command FSA to abstain from operations until ISIS is defeated) then Assad would be gone long ago. I know you want to think highly of yourself and feel accomplished but you need to face reality. Same with nationalist Arabs or Turks or Kurds who like to boast a lot.
 
If it wasn't for USA, Hezbollah and Arab world(Arabs who command FSA to abstain from operations until ISIS is defeated) then Assad would be gone long ago. I know you want to think highly of yourself and feel accomplished but you need to face reality. Same with nationalist Arabs or Turks or Kurds who like to boast a lot.

Yes, because of unpreparedness of SAA, it was on the verge of collapse in 2012, but SAA was greatly transformed. If they were going to fight like 2011-12, then Assad would have been gone 3 years ago. Not that SAA performance is excellent today, but it is highly improved compared to those years. SAA was a mini-version of Red Army and everyone knows Red Army tactics suck in face of urban warfare. Iranian advisers flew to Damascus when the city was on the verge of falling, SAA took some effective countermeasures and drove militants out from various areas.

Although, their performance now is nothing to right home about, but it is much better. It's not very easy to change mentality of old army generals are raised with Soviet military doctrines.
 
Yes, because of unpreparedness of SAA, it was on the verge of collapse in 2012, but SAA was greatly transformed. If they were going to fight like 2011-12, then Assad would have been gone 3 years ago. Not that SAA performance is excellent today, but it is highly improved compared to those years. SAA was a mini-version of Red Army and everyone knows Red Army tactics suck in face of urban warfare. Iranian advisers flew to Damascus when the city was on the verge of falling, SAA took some effective countermeasures and drove militants out from various areas.

Although, their performance now is nothing to right home about, but it is much better. It's not very easy to change mentality of old army generals are raised with Soviet military doctrines.
I saw a documentary and it showed the Iranians were teaching SAA in practice how to make good relationship with locals. Basically bringing the locals inline with the goals and taking care of them. It was saying this is something that was not normal in SA and they were surprised how effective it was.
 
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