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PM Narendra Modi likely to visit India's oldest mosque during Kerala trip

This part says it all, they over-stayed their visa. They didn't get into India illegally as they had visa.


Yes, you go there and comment "Hope Hasina kill all Jamaatis" in a thread about BSF border killing.


No one invited you guys in BD section either but you guys like to pole-vault there.

Well ,I didnt do that .
If my fellow Indians posted like that they have their own reason and diffficulties due to illegal migration of Lungis.
Infiltration is a problem to us .So that is not your internal affair.

Cheraman Masjid is in my state .Our PM is visiting a state in his nation .my nation.
You dont have to comment about it .This is simply none of your business
 
The thread is about Narinder Modi's visit to the oldest mosque in India.

Even after my initial warning people are ignoring what I wrote. If you post anymore I will start to hand out penalties, which is always my last resort. Please comply.
 
I foresee another Skull cap drama. :pop:
 
I dont think, it will happen this time.
It might not happen in the mosque itself but few flag bearer of Secularism will raise the issue. When a fabricated sob story of a Muslim girl can get on prime time debate on every national channel anything is possible.
 
It might not happen in the mosque itself but few flag bearer of Secularism will raise the issue. When a fabricated sob story of a Muslim girl can get on prime time debate on every national channel anything is possible.

That would be not secularism.

Dr Radhakrishnan defined secularism as equal respect to all religions and never should be considered as irreligious.

 
What reasoning, how does population is related to nominal avg GDP. More population should translate into low GDP. Don't convolute the facts. If size alone matterd Russia would have the highest GDP and if population mattered China would have. :rofl::rofl:. Keep the lunginomics to lungidesh.

Man ...you have such a nice sense of humour..
 
That would be not secularism.

Dr Radhakrishnan defined secularism as equal respect to all religions and never should be considered as irreligious.

Why do you think Secularism is such a dirty word in India? The ones who were supposed to uphold it abused it to the maximum and they are not done abusing it. You will be here and so will I be when Modi will visit this mosque, and we will be discussing about a new controversy.
 
Why do you think Secularism is such a dirty word in India? The ones who were supposed to uphold it abused it to the maximum and they are not done abusing it. You will be here and so will I be when Modi will visit this mosque, and we will be discussing about a new controversy.

We are Multi religious country and we all have faith in the supreme creator. Majority of Indians are religious people.
 
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The Cheraman Juma Masjid in Kodungallur, Kerala, believed to be the first mosque in India built in 629 A.D., is now part of the Muziris Heritage Project launched by the State govt.

A proposed visit of the Prime Minister to India’s oldest mosque, the Cheraman Juma Masjid, is in limbo as Kerala Tourism’s Muziris Heritage Project brushes uncomfortably against the Sangh Parivar’s construct of history.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the Grand Mosque in Abu Dhabi — within weeks of speaking about India’s Islamic heritage during his tour of Central Asia — was widely interpreted as a recalibration of his approach towards Islam, but repeating that gesture within the borders of the country appears difficult for him.

A proposed visit of Mr. Modi to India’s oldest mosque, the Cheraman Juma Masjid in central Kerala’s Kodungallur, is in limbo as Kerala Tourism’s Muziris Heritage Project that he was to inaugurate during the visit, brushes uncomfortably against the Sangh Parivar’s construct of history. Mr. Modi had accepted Kerala Chief Minister Oommen Chandy’s invitation to inaugurate the project, but Sangh Parivar leaders opposed to the project registered their protest with the PM who subsequently developed cold feet, a BJP source told The Hindu. “We are waiting for a date from the PMO,” a senior functionary of the Kerala government said.

Cultural overtones

At the heart of the debate is the ongoing excavation at Pattanam near Kodungallur, which historians increasingly believe is the remains of Muziri Patanam, the lost port on the south-western Kerala coast that fostered intense trade contacts between the subcontinent and regions in Europe, Africa and other parts of Asia, between third century BC and fifth century AD. Kerala tourism developed a heritage tourism project around it. Indian Ocean trade contacts are a subject close to Mr. Modi’s heart, but the cultural undertones that accompany them make for complicated politics, and in Kodungallur, it is striking.

It is here that Christianity and Islam possibly made their first contacts with the peninsula, alongside trade, much before they arrived in other parts of India through invasions and colonialism. The Syrian Christian tradition claims — though without much historical evidence — that St. Thomas reached Kodungallur in the first century AD along with Jewish traders. A synagogue still exists in the town, and is part of the proposed tourism circuit. The exact date of the founding of the mosque is also not an established historical fact though the local legend cites AD 629. “What is certainly clear is that cultural exchanges accompanied trade,” said P.J. Cherian, Director, Pattanam Excavations, and Director, Kerala Council for Historical Research (KCHR). Though the current excavation site suggests decline by the fifth century, contacts of the region with Arabia continued during the advent of Islam. “Excavation has no preconceived notions,” said K.N. Panikkar, Chairman, KCHR, on the possible impact that emerging finding may have on local legends.

RSS-affiliated bodies, particularly the Bharatheeya Vichara Kendram, have been opposed to the project and its interpretations. Organiser wrote in 2011: “The Left conspiracy, spearheaded by Panikkar and Cherian of KCHR, was to showcase Muziris as a centre of composite culture consisting of Jews, Dutch, Portuguese, Muslims and Babylonians; Hindus only represented by Vanvasis.” “BVK view on this project has been communal and is not based on any historical understanding,” said Prof. Panikkar.

BJP State president V. Muraleedharan said the PM had never agreed to come for the inauguration of the project. “He certainly must have said that he would consider, but to say that he agreed to come is misinformation.”Despite the silence from the PM, supporters of the project have not lost hope. Dr. Cherian pointed out that the permission for excavation was extended after Mr. Modi came to power. “We are eagerly waiting for the dates of the Prime Minister. But unfortunately, despite feverish follow-ups by the Chief Minister’s office with the PMO , we haven’t got any confirmation yet,” said T. N. Prathapan, senior Congress leader and local MLA. Mr. Prathapan said the State government’s proposal was for the Prime Minister to visit the masjid, the Bhagavathi Temple and the St Thomas Church.

“We will be very happy to welcome the Prime Minister,” said Dr. Mohammad Syed, president of the Masjid Managing Committee.

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A view of the Cheraman Juma Masjid in Kodungallur in Thrissur district.—Photo: Thulasi Kakkat

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rime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the Grand Mosque in Abu Dhabi – within weeks of speaking about India’s Islamic heritage during his tour of Central Asia - was widely interpreted as a recalibration of his approach towards Islam, but re-enacting that gesture within the borders of the country appears difficult for him.

A proposed visit of Modi to India’s oldest mosque, the Cheraman Juma Masjid in central Kerala’s Kodungallur, is in limbo as Kerala Tourism’s Muziris Heritage Project that he was to inaugurate during the visit, brushes uncomfortably against the Sangh Parivar’s construct of history.

Modi had accepted Kerala Chief Minister Oommen Chandy’s invitation to inaugurate the project, but Sangh Parivar leaders opposed to the project registered their protest with the PM who subsequently developed cold feet, a Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) source told The Hindu .

“We are waiting for a date from the Prime Minister’s office,” a senior functionary of the State government said.

At the heart of the debate is the ongoing excavation at Pattanam near Kodungallur, which historians increasingly believe is the remains of Muziri Pattanam, the lost port on the south western Kerala coast that fostered intense trade contacts between the subcontinent and regions in Europe, Africa and other parts of Asia, between third century BC and fifth century AD.

Kerala Tourism developed a heritage tourism project around it. Indian Ocean trade contacts are a subject close to Modi’s heart, but the cultural undertones that accompany them make for complicated politics, and in Kodungallur, it is striking.

It is here that Christianity and Islam possibly made their first contacts with the peninsula, alongside trade, much before they arrived in other parts of India through invasions and colonialism.

The Syrian Christian tradition claims – though without much historical evidence – that St. Thomas reached Kodungallur in the first century AD along with Jewish traders.

A synagogue still exists in the town, and is part of the proposed tourism circuit. The exact date of the founding of the mosque is also not an established historical fact though the local legend cites AD 629. “What is certainly clear is that cultural exchanges accompanied trade,” said P. J. Cherian, Director, Pattanam Excavations and Director, Kerala Council for Historical Research (KCHR).

Though the current excavation site suggests decline by the fifth century, contacts of the region with Arabia continued during the advent of Islam. “Excavation has no preconceived notions,” said Prof K. N. Panikkar, Chairman, KCHR, on the possible impact that emerging finding may have on local legends.

RSS affiliated bodies, particularly the Bharatheeya Vichara Kendram (BVK), have been opposed to the project and its interpretations. Organiser wrote in 2011: “The left conspiracy, spearheaded by K. N. Panikkar and P. J. Cherian of KCHR was to showcase Muziris as a centre of composite culture consisting of Jews, Dutch, Portuguese, Muslims and Babylonians, Hindus only represented by Vanvasis.”

“BVK view on this project has been communal and is not based on any historical understanding,” said Prof Panikkar.

BJP State president V. Muraleedharan said the Prime Minister had never agreed to come for the inauguration of the project. “He certainly must have said that he would consider, but to say that he agreed to come is misinformation. He could not come for the inauguration of the National Games also,” he said.

Despite the silence from the Prime Minister, supporters of the project have not lost hope. Mr. Cherian pointed out that the permission for excavation was extended after Modi came to power. ý”We are eagerly waiting for the dates of the Prime Minister. But unfortunately, despite feverish follow ups by the Chief Minister’s office with the Prime Minister’s office, we haven’t got any confirmation yet,” said T. N. Prathapan, senior Congress leader and local MLA.

Mr .Prathapan said the State government proposal was for the Prime Minister to visit the masjid, the Bhagavathi Temple and the St Thomas Church.

“We will be very happy to welcome the Prime Minister,” said Dr Mohammad Syed, president of the Masjid Managing Committee

BVK view on this project has been communal and is not based on any historical understanding
 
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