Persian Bombcats on the way ! (F-14 upgrade program)

[farhan_9909]

Good developments

I don't get it,iran has the money but still they don't even buy the aircraft easily available to them,such as j-10B

 

[haman10]

buy the aircraft easily available to them

lol , bro , its not !!

the military sanctions are from UN not US ! china also voted FOR it . we cannot and probably will not buy those even if we could .

You guys should get 'Combat Aircraft Monthly - October 2013' containing article on IRIAF tomcats by Babak Taghvaee

babak taghvaee writes some good articles - the tomcat story was one of them (partly)

but most of his work is pulled outta his arse , he talks non-sense too much

 

[Daneshmand]

Good developments

I don't get it,iran has the money but still they don't even buy the aircraft easily available to them,such as j-10B

UN security council has sanctioned Iran. Which means both China and Russia also have sanctioned Iran.

J-10 is useless for Iran. It would not increase Iran's strategic power. Anything lower than T-50 is basically useless for Iran in long term for strategic purposes. It is a money thrown down the gutter. Better spent on local projects than giving it to China.

 

[IrbiS]

babak taghvaee writes some good articles - the tomcat story was one of them (partly)

but most of his work is pulled outta his arse , he talks non-sense too much

I also read his story on F-4s and Project Habibi ( F1 Upgrade Program )

 

[kollang]

UN security council has sanctioned Iran. Which means both China and Russia also have sanctioned Iran.

J-10 is useless for Iran. It would not increase Iran's strategic power. Anything lower than T-50 is basically useless for Iran i long term for strategic purposes. It is a money thrown down the gutter. Better spent on local projects than giving it to China.

Bro, I sugest you to read about J-10B capabilities.J-10B along with Su-30/35 are among the good quality fighter jets that might be available if sanctions are removed.I think the difference between 4/5 gen and 5 gen fighters is only stealth capabilty which is really not a high key.

@haman10
IRIAF is like Ronaldinho.he looks to the left but pass the ball to the right.LOL.no one can understand what exactly is happening.

 

[haman10]

Bro, I sugest you to read about J-10B capabilities.J-10B along with Su-30/35 are among the good quality fighter jets that might be available if sanctions are removed.I think the difference between 4/5 gen and 5 gen fighters is only stealth capabilty which is really not a high key.

yes , but i agree with daneshmand here bro .

iran is doing a good job by focusing on local projects rather than buying stuff . enough with that .....

thats just a temp. low-quality cure , indeed this very project (bombcats) can really help our AF .

but only if all our F-14s are upgraded to this standard , which needs a huge amount of $$$

I also read his story on F-4s and Project Habibi ( F1 Upgrade Program )

yeah , project habibi was indeed a good project .

anyway , you seem to be interested in IRIAF . i'll keep u posted for any developments from now on

no one can understand what exactly is happening.

 

[Daneshmand]

Bro, I sugest you to read about J-10B capabilities.J-10B along with Su-30/35 are among the good quality fighter jets that might be available if sanctions are removed.I think the difference between 4/5 gen and 5 gen fighters is only stealth capabilty which is really not a high key.

I know what you mean but I am not talking about current capabilities. I am talking about the next 40 years. When Iran spent billions on these F-14's, these were the top of the line fighters of their days and have remained relevant to Iran's security till today for 40 years. Similarly if Iran is to spend billions, then it must be on something that has the potential to be upgraded and tweaked for decades to come. 10 years later when skies around Iran are filled with F-35, T-50 and J-31, these J-10's will be useless and an expensive purchase.

Anyways none of these are available now. But if sanctions are removed, Iran must push to reach a deal with Russians for T-50 on similar terms as Indians (local production and technology transfer) for at least 200 of these. Even if Iran has to overpay Russians it will be worth it. Iran can take a long term loan from Chinese or Russian banks and finance it. Only this kind of a purchase will guarantee Iran's airpower beyond the middle of this century. J-10 by comparison will be a waste of money.

 

[kollang]

yes , but i agree with daneshmand here bro .

iran is doing a good job by focusing on local projects rather than buying stuff . enough with that .....

thats just a temp. low-quality cure , indeed this very project (bombcats) can really help our AF .

but only if all our F-14s are upgraded to this standard , which needs a huge amount of $$$


yeah , project habibi was indeed a good project .

anyway , you seem to be interested in IRIAF . i'll keep u posted for any developments from now on

Come on! 40 upgraded F-14s are not enough for a regional player like Iran.we should take a look at foreign options while working on indiginouse projects.

 

[IrbiS]

yeah , project habibi was indeed a good project .

anyway , you seem to be interested in IRIAF . i'll keep u posted for any developments from now on

Thanks. And this one is dubbed Project Babaiee if I'm correct.

I know it's off-topic but I would like to hear, Taghvee once stunned me when he wrote that IIAF had finalized in 79 to get 300 F-16, 250 F-18 and and 150 F-14s for 37 squadrons. I was like WOW! What you say about it

 

[Daneshmand]

Thanks. And this one is dubbed Project Babaiee if I'm correct.

I know it's off-topic but I would like to hear, Taghvee once stunned me when he wrote that IIAF had finalized in 79 to get 300 F-16, 250 F-18 and and 150 F-14s for 37 squadrons. I was like WOW! What you say about it

Iran had actually paid the developmental costs of F-16 and was to receive F-16 beginning 1980. The production line of Iranian F-16's was later diverted to supply Israel and Pakistan. Such was the fate.

 

[haman10]

I know it's off-topic but I would like to hear, Taghvee once stunned me when he wrote that IIAF had finalized in 79 to get 300 F-16, 250 F-18 and and 150 F-14s for 37 squadrons. I was like WOW! What you say about it

F-18s ? lol ,no !!

but yeah , iran wanted to :

1- receive some F-16s then produce them locally in iran

2- receive 80 F-14As then assemble another 80 locally in iran

iran was also really interested in YF-17 back at that time

 

[IrbiS]

Iran had actually paid the developmental costs of F-16 and was to receive F-16 beginning 1980. The production line of Iranian F-16's was later diverted to supply Israel and Pakistan. Such was the fate.

That I'm aware of and west still tells that proudly

F-18s ? lol ,no !!

but yeah , iran wanted to :

1- receive some F-16s then produce them locally in iran

2- receive 80 F-14As then assemble another 80 locally in iran

iran was also really interested in YF-17 back at that time

By F-18 now, I meant YF-17 in 79. 700 fighters till 1986, what a beast of an Air Force Iran would've had

 

[Arminkh]

After Updating the F-14A of the IRIAF to F-14AM standard , iran is now upgrading them to a whole new standard : the Persian Bombcats .

F-14AM :

According to latest news here , a new iranian radar (as predicted before ) is going to be used instead of AWG-9 radars in the new bombcats which gives them the capability to engage Ground targets as well as Aerial targets .

the upgrades can be put in 3 catagories : 1- avionics 2-missiles 3-engine

1- The new radar is designed based on AWG-9 and has been digitalized (the same thing that happened in APG-71 radar ) . its range and tracing capabilities have also been extended . the AWG-9 does NOT have the capability of engaging ground targets which has been fixed in the iranian version .

Also , the 2 old processors (CPUs) of the AWG-9 has been replaced with new and state-of-the-art ones .

Persian Bombcats are going to enjoy new MFDs (multi-function display) as well , which reduces the work load of pilots .

2- They are capable of using Fakour A-A missile with 200KM range and maghsoud missile with 300+ KM range and R-27 Alamo with 130km range under a project named toofan.

3- the engines of F-14 has been upgraded with APUs (Auxillary power units) to boost its performance in tight maneuvers . the engines have all been overhauled by HESA company in Isfehan city .


Then new Bombcats will be used as a multi-role fighter as it can be used as :

1- long-range interceptor

2-Bomber : the bombcats are capable of firing ATGMs and precise-bombing the living SHIZZAM outta our enemies .

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Pics :

Fakour (AIM-54 A+ ) :

F-14AM :

AWG-9 radar :

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GODSPEED IRIAF !!

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Great news! It was about time they did something to f-14

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

This is a great news. However, to understand the radar upgrade, is it equivalent to AN/APG-79 Active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar or an Iranian equivalent?

 

[Syrian Lion]

AWESOME!

God Bless Iran!