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Multiple Terrorist groups claim Wagah Border attack, 55 people killed.

Don't try to make joke here, whole world knows that RAW and CIA fund, support and weaponize these TTP Kharjis....

Yes indeed, there's no blame on extremism and radicalization in the Pakistani society, the Jihadis of the past are all exempt from blame since all the terrorists with native faces and religious surnames of Hafiz, Qari, Mullah, Moulvi, Mufti are coming from America/Europe/Israel/India etc. However if even that, I assume as true still wont explain why the terrorists have been so successful if they do not find support and patronage within the country and in this very society. It doesn't explain at all, all the Madarsas that have been found by the security forces converting "extra children sent to the clerics" into suicide bombers. How the TTP and other terrorist organizations have had thousands of members. How the hateful messages and pamphelets are distributed after the Friday sermons calling for Muslims to help the terrorists. How they have had whole infrastructure and money generating techniques and support from political parties, until Op.Zarb-e-Azb. Why there's a whole segment of population that agrees with the stance of religious psycopaths. Give me a break from your Jihadi love! Learn to look within yourself, playing the blame and denial game for eternity wont help.
 
Its a nation whose online presence is increasingly being brainwashed for hypocrisy.
this terrorism is the result of Pakistan joining the international war on terror. had we chosen to stay neutral like Iran then we wont have had any issue from these terrorists. instead of acknowledging a change and our move towards the right direction we are chided and mocked whenever these terrorists strike us.

we can really solve this problem the easy way. call of all the operations and stop pursuing these terrorists then we wont be worrying about these attacks anymore.

coming back to some responses from Indians on the online world. I am amazed at the ferocity and fervor with which the Indian online community literally swarms news websites and other social media of whatever origin (Pakistani sites too) which a military discipline and a carefully choreographed routines they copy paste the same recycled phrases over and over again. I dont expect anything better from the majority of these posters who wear a pink sari as a badge of honor on PDF but I am really amazed at the obsessive compulsive behavior of many of them if not all.
 
Still some Pakistani members want to blame India?
we are blaming the ones who are providing them funds and refuge via Northern Alliance and directly in Afghanistan. these terrorists are not running on hot air
 
we are blaming the ones who are providing them funds and refuge via Northern Alliance and directly in Afghanistan. these terrorists are not running on hot air
Common irfan bhai,if India was involved why who we beefup the security on our side after the intel warning that suside attack is immenent,dsnt that tell you we where expecting that on our side.

Your intel had the info more that 2 weeks ago,they will defenetly know who did it.let them come out with a statement as to who did it.
 
So if Indians did kill civillians you will be ok with it? Say as they did with the LoC..

Civilians died on indian side too at LOC. So two possibilities, 1) the civilian deaths were collateral OR 2) both sides killed civilians on purpose.

And NO, I'm not ok with intentional targetting of civilians.

Your whole logic seems to be ''anything bad happening in pakistan, india benefits, hence they must be behind it''.
 
this terrorism is the result of Pakistan joining the international war on terror. had we chosen to stay neutral like Iran then we wont have had any issue from these terrorists. instead of acknowledging a change and our move towards the right direction we are chided and mocked whenever these terrorists strike us.

we can really solve this problem the easy way. call of all the operations and stop pursuing these terrorists then we wont be worrying about these attacks anymore.

coming back to some responses from Indians on the online world. I am amazed at the ferocity and fervor with which the Indian online community literally swarms news websites and other social media of whatever origin (Pakistani sites too) which a military discipline and a carefully choreographed routines they copy paste the same recycled phrases over and over again. I dont expect anything better from the majority of these posters who wear a pink sari as a badge of honor on PDF but I am really amazed at the obsessive compulsive behavior of many of them if not all.

Yes sir, i agree. If Pakistan would have remained neutral like Iran, this wouldn't have happened to such scales. People's lives are on stake at least in this part of Pakistan now, and everyone must sit home including the muharram gatherings for Ashoura Shareef. May God Bless Imam Hussain aleihisalam.

In Hadith Shareef, it is mentioned by the noble words that in the end of times there will be a khawarij group of such characteristics as the ones today in the form of AQ/ISIS/TTP etc. Their details are presented precisely. The only way to not get tainted by their fitnah and into their madness and be a victim is to try to stay away from them as much as possible.

Nawaz Shareef is an impotent. The government in Pakistan must make solid decisions.

Most of these indians suffer from their disordered culture of dance and show-off.
 
this terrorism is the result of Pakistan joining the international war on terror. had we chosen to stay neutral like Iran then we wont have had any issue from these terrorists. instead of acknowledging a change and our move towards the right direction we are chided and mocked whenever these terrorists strike us.

we can really solve this problem the easy way. call of all the operations and stop pursuing these terrorists then we wont be worrying about these attacks anymore.
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Your opinion have changed a lot since the last time I had read you.
 
This is an internal problem that Pakistan needs to deal with. And we are dealing with it through various operations. There is no reason to blame our neighbors for it. Countries meddle in one another's affairs all the time and will continue to do so in the future. Hell Pakistan has done the same in the past as well.

We need to rid ourselves of this extremist ideology and clean up the havens where such education is provided.
 
Yes sir, i agree. If Pakistan would have remained neutral like Iran, this wouldn't have happened to such scales. People's lives are on stake at least in this part of Pakistan now, and everyone must sit home including the muharram gatherings for Ashoura Shareef. May God Bless Imam Hussain aleihisalam.

In Hadith Shareef, it is mentioned by the noble words that in the end of times there will be a khawarij group of such characteristics as the ones today in the form of AQ/ISIS/TTP etc. Their details are presented precisely. The only way to not get tainted by their fitnah and into their madness and be a victim is to try to stay away from them as much as possible.

Nawaz Shareef is an impotent. The government in Pakistan must make solid decisions.

Most of these indians suffer from their disordered culture of dance and show-off.
thanks for your comments I agree with your post except the last sentence which in my opinion was unfair
I urge you not to judge the Hindu faith this way. dance is not their religion and even if it is, it doesnt cause any "disorder" as you see it. their responses are mostly nationalistic and due to our rival history since the inception of Pakistan.
 
Revenge of 'innocent' by killing innocent. Sigh, there is no point in looking at logic when it comes to these guys. I just hope Pak army hunt this guy down, take video of him crying and begging for mercy and make an example out of him.

They killed "evil punjabis", hence they believe they have done the right thing.
 
I think the next operation will be fought in city ...
if Army think that they will succeed by eliminating TTP from N&S waziristan than they are mistaken... they should take a look at karachi , and other parts of KPK .. they penetrated deep in our society ... i personally believe that army should use their way to kill them ... use covert operations , make assassination teams , including ISI , MI and CID , along with sharp shooters , and those terrorist who are disguised as civilians , and if have enough prove against them, just eliminate them ,no need to arrest and take them to judiciary ... someone has to do something un usual to save country from this ...
use their tactics like ambushes and IED attack on their convoys ... its not that elimination mulla radio or ehsan ulla ehsan will finish this war , we need to first push them back to the tribal areas , and clear them from cities cause you can not launch a full scale operation in cities like karachi .. the cancer of Talibanization is getting bigger day by day ... TTP gets their funds from other agencies and also by smuggling drugs , kidnapping and land grabbing , army need to cut their funding ... rangers are not able to go inside many areas of karachi ... its not that only karachi , if army didnt take any action now , than we will have no go areas in all cities of Pakistan ...
 
I can assure you that, instead of making the whole country, a war zone, training the terrrorists on our soil, allowing the Afghans to come and settle down freely with guns and drugs and totally investing the nation in a war that wasn't ours, there were other better means of tackling the Soviet threat. ]

The past has gone, but if the policy continues your sentiments are valid.

Considering, what happened in Punjab, and Lahore, Punjabis are a very care-free and forgiving people. They don't believe in blood feuds that go on for generations and are very faithful Sufi minded Muslims generally.

They would take this tragedy at Wagah as Allah's will, and then will pursue the matter intelligibly, largely. I know how Punjabis think generally. They are a jolly, happy, competitive industrial people with a culture and world of their own. These are the feelings I wanted to express about them.

I believe india is behind this blast through Afghanistan. The three groups that claimed responsibility are all funded through Afghanistan by criminal, genocidal indians. All three claimed revenge, when revenge is a sin in Islam. Only revenge for the sake of God is allowed, but would you call this murder as revenge for God???

How can " jundullah" [ which in Arabic means soldiers of Allah ] claim revenge by killing innocent villagers, women and children? They are lying. They are not soliders of Allah, because by the Qur' an and Sunnah, revenge is illegal, but defence is not. So killing innocents by the hundreds is an Act of God and Act of Defence? This has been said over and over again on PDF.

These acts have been done by non-Muslims.
 
Your whole logic seems to be ''anything bad happening in pakistan, india benefits, hence they must be behind it''.

Incorrect. My logic has ZIP to do with India benefiting in that post. It has to do with the moral degradation and "rape" of humane ideals practice by a large section of Indian members on this forum.
 
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