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Multiple Terrorist groups claim Wagah Border attack, 55 people killed.

What is your point Mod ?? You are getting all this mixed up .

Terrorist attacks and wars are two different things.

One is supposed to celebrate War victory but not coward terrorist attack.

Which includes civilian deaths I presume?
 
Which includes civilian deaths I presume?


Yes.

There are civilian casualty in every war. As far as i know, there has not been a single war with zero casualties. Enlighten me if you know about one.
 
If we had to/have to decide our policies based on intentions and verbal assurances of World Powers then U.S attacked Iraq for the supposedly WMD'S and attacked Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda and Taliban,did you see any of that happened..??..And i didn't say that they were gonna attack Pakistan but sitting them in Afghanistan and even little cooperation with India could be disastrous for us which we had no solution, compare to now there is some hope and means in containing them...And yeah Foreign policy is not run on Oblivion or verbal assurunces but based on the capabilities of the Foe's...

I can assure you that, instead of making the whole country, a war zone, training the terrrorists on our soil, allowing the Afghans to come and settle down freely with guns and drugs and totally investing the nation in a war that wasn't ours, there were other better means of tackling the Soviet threat. A limited engagement and involvement should have been considered. The Reds were on decline, by then. Zia Administration knew all of this and more, which I explained you in the last post, the reason that they chose to give an alternate view of the events, to naive Pakistanis under the religious cover, speaks truly of their intentions. They weren't protecting the country for the country, needed no protection from a non existent threat and since there was no truth in the warm waters myth. What they were doing, was just trying to get out of International isolation, which Zia-ul-Haq had found himself after the coup de grace, serving American interests and guaranteeing the U.S. Aid and support for their own Govt. The past with Soviet Union, was the past. There's a reason why the foreign policy should never be run on emotions, like Karachi and later Islambad have done for most of their history.

After reading this, if you still think that there was no reapproachment possible with Soviet Union and the Reds bore enmity of such magnitude that allying with them, was cursing the country to oblivion as it has been told to Pakistanis since then. Then, I have nothing more to say. I just do not see the part, where it was beneficial to destroy the whole country, wage some sort of Jihad in Afghanistan because the Kremlim was coming to get us next. It wasn't there. There are countless argument backed by factual proof that Moscow didn't wish to cross to the other side of the Khyber Pass.

In 1971, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto succeeded to bring full-scale Soviet investment in this project, and laid the foundations of the steel mills in 1972 with the help of Soviet Union.[4] In 1980-85, the Soviet direct investment increased from 10% to 15% after officially signing an economic cooperation agreement in 1985.[5] The overall 1.6% of all Pakistan's exports were accounted in 1981, which increased to 2.5% in 1985.[5] Particularly, the Soviet material exports exceeded the imports in three-fold method in early 1980.[5] In April 1981, Pakistan and Soviet Union formed a joint private company to start the manufacture of the agriculture tractors, for which Soviet Union offered $20 million US dollars.[5] In November 1981, the Soviet Ambassador to Pakistan, V.S. Smirnov, publicly announced that the USSR was ready to provide the financial and technical assistance to set up the export-oriented industries.[5] In November 1981, the USSR financially funded and solely establishing the Guddo Thermal Power Station, and surprise Pakistan by offering to build a second nuclear power plant in May 1981.[5] In 1983, the USSR agreeably sold components of oil-drilled equipments for the construction of the Multan Heavy Water Reactor (Multan-I).[5] In 1985, with Soviet presence, President Zia-ul-Haq inaugurated the vertically integrated and the largest Steel Mill in the South Asia, the Pakistan Steel Mills in Karachi, on 15 January 1985.[4] This project was completed at a capital cost of Rs.24,700 million; and even as today, the Steel Mills maintains a respected history and great symbol for the relations of USSR and Pakistan.[4]
 
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As you had choosen 1971 and Kargil in the post to which I had replied.

I fail to see Indians killing Civilians in any of those wars. Infact in 1971 , it was Pakistani Army which was going after helpless civilians.

So if Indians did kill civillians you will be ok with it? Say as they did with the LoC..
 
You know how you answer back to terrorists with a msg. you dont hide at homes and be afraid. you go back to that place and you shout with pride that you respect the armed forces and pakistan and hate the terrorists. Wahga border parade on and alot of people are back and its not even been 24 hours to that event.

You cant send a stronger msg than that to the filth who believe we are afraid of their shit. We are a brave nation and always will remain so.
 
So if Indians did kill civillians you will be ok with it? Say as they did with the LoC..


I guess , I have already answered that. You need to check sequence of posts again.

Going round and round is wastage of bandwidth as well as our's time. I hope you do check sequence of our conversation on this very thread itself.
 
This group also claimed responsibility for killing 100 Christians last year in peshawar.Was that by india too??
Peshawar is part of Pakistan and those christains were Pakistanis. India will never spare an opportunity to damage Pakistan. Today Pakistan is weak economically therefore India has raised its terrorist activities throughout Pakistan, it has also carried out attacks in its own people (Mumbai) in order to malign name of Pakistan and label us as terrorists.
 
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