Bleeding internally? Seal it with this DARPA foam

[VCheng]

But this isn't the only ingredient the the foam and other ingredients can cause imune responses. From the link I provided:

"One liquid is a polyol, a type of alcohol. The other is made of isocyanates, a family of highly reactive chemicals widely used in the manufacture of flexible and rigid foams."

We have more than one ingredient and while one may not cause issues, other's might. Also keep in mind that while something might be biodegradable on its own, when combined with other ingredients its properties can change.

I can assure you that the whole witches brew injected is quite safe for its intended purpose.

Thanks for that clarification, Sir. Btw, are you a Medical Doctor ?

Just a teacher.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

I can assure you that the whole witches brew injected is quite safe for its intended purpose.



Just a teacher.

Safe yes, but at present it can only be removed though the use of surgery and is designed to allow a soldier to survive an injury until they can get to an operating theater, I'm not debating this with you and I believe it to be true as well.

 

[Aepsilons]

Sir @Syed.Ali.Haider ,

Well its just impressive and mind boggling to see that this is being tested right now; and what amazes me yet again is that @SvenSvensonov mentioned that there are more than 1 ingredients. So how advanced have you Americans been researching into this?

When we think we're catching up, you Yanks are always making another jump....in research.

 

[FaujHistorian]

@SvenSvensonov , @Horus , @Manticore , @FaujHistorian , @500 et al,

Talk about science fiction coming to reality!This will change battlefield medical aid...

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Bleeding internally? Seal it with this DARPA foam

While any soldier dreads the idea of being shot, sustaining an internal abdominal injury from an explosion or other impact can be far worse. Bleeding from wounds that can't be compressed causes some 85 percent of preventible battlefield deaths.

As part of DARPA's Wound Stasis program, Arsenal Medical has developed an injectable polymer foam that expands inside the body to stanch internal bleeding.

The concept of foam growing in the body reminds me of that 1980s B-horror film "The Stuff," but apparently it's effective.

Based on testing in pigs, DARPA says the product can control hemorrhaging in an abdominal cavity for at least an hour, a critical window to get the soldier to a medical facility.

"During testing, minimally invasive application of the product reduced blood loss six-fold and increased the rate of survival at three hours post-injury to 72 percent from the eight percent observed in controls," DARPA said in a release.

Results of testing were presented at the American Association for the Surgery of Trauma 2012 annual meeting (PDF).


The polyurethane polymer foam forms inside the body when two liquid phases are injected and react with one another. The liquid expands to about 30 times its volume and conforms to the internal features of the abdomen, as seen in the animation below.

The foam can also expand through pooled and clotted blood to reach the source of the bleeding. In testing, it took surgeons less than a minute to remove the foam, which comes out as a solid block.

I wouldn't want to have that stuff inside me for long, but I certainly wouldn't complain if it could save my life.

Arsenal is developing the foam for civilian use in acute hemorrhage and other applications. Meanwhile, DARPA is preparing to get FDA approval for it.

"According to the U.S. Army Institute of Surgical Research, internal hemorrhage is the leading cause of potentially survivable deaths on the battlefield, so the Wound Stasis effort should ultimately translate into an increased rate of survival among warfighters," DARPA program manager Brian Holloway was quoted as saying in the release.

"If testing bears out, the foam technology could affect up to 50 percent of potentially survivable battlefield wounds."

Bleeding internally? Seal it with this DARPA foam - CNET

In addition to helping soldiers it can also help victims of earthquakes, car accidents etc.

Awesome product.


I also see possible use with cyborgs, androids, and other synthetic life forms. Ok I'll stop here before the sci-fi man inside me completely takes over this thread

Oh and this will make the job of terminator much harder. haha


I mean we can well imagine an additional 15 min fight before Arnold Schwarzenegger's title character could say "Hasta la vista, baby" in the 1991 science fiction thriller film Terminator 2: Judgment Day

 

[Aepsilons]

In addition to helping soldiers it can also help victims of earthquakes, car accidents etc.

Awesome product.


I also see possible use with cyborgs, androids, and other synthetic life forms. Ok I'll stop here before the sci-fi man inside me completely takes over this thread

ha ha ha , Sir you got me at the cyborgs part

But on a serious note tho, if this proves effective in battlefield trials, this definitely mean greater survival rates for patients being transported to hospitals. A paradigm shift, really, specially when in context to emergency medicine....

 

[VCheng]

Safe yes, but at present it can only be removed though the yes of surgery and is designed to allow a soldier to survive an injury until they can get to an operating theater, I'm not debating this with you and I believe it to be true as well.

It is up to you to debate or not, but remember that the surgeon has to go in anyway to repair the damage properly. This foam is only to help improve hemodynamic stability in the field to give a longer window for evacuation, and it serves that purpose very well.

In addition to helping soldiers it can also help victims of earthquakes, car accidents etc.

Awesome product.


I also see possible use with cyborgs, androids, and other synthetic life forms. Ok I'll stop here before the sci-fi man inside me completely takes over this thread

It is designed more for internal injuries caused by projectiles where external pressure cannot reduce the bleeding, so its use in those other scenarios is not as effective.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

It is up to you to debate or not, but remember that the surgeon has to go in anyway to repair the damage properly. This foam is only to help improve hemodynamic stability in the field to give a longer window for evacuation, and it serves that purpose very well.

Yes, it very much does serve its purpose (or it will when fully implemented as a battlefield technology), but that DAPRA scientists are saying that it still causes problems, that as of yet its not biodegradable and that it can cause immunological responses is enough justification to state that there is still work to be done to make it an effective battlefield system. It works, it provides stability and prolongs the life of a soldier that would otherwise die, I don't need a lesson in what it does I have that covered, I'm only trying to make sure we have the details right before making claims.

 

[VCheng]

Yes, it very much does serve its purpose (or it will when fully implemented as a battlefield technology), but that DAPRA scientists are saying that it still causes problems, that as of yet its not biodegradable and that it can cause immunological responses is enough justification to state that it still has worked to be done on to make it an effective battlefield system. It works, it provides stability and prolongs the life of a soldier that would otherwise die, I don't need a lesson in what it does I have that covered, I'm only trying to make sure we have the details right before making claims.

The details are not all known widely, Sir. All your concerns are indeed valid, but all resolvable.

 

[FaujHistorian]

ha ha ha , Sir you got me at the cyborgs part

But on a serious note tho, if this proves effective in battlefield trials, this definitely mean greater survival rates for patients being transported to hospitals. A paradigm shift, really, specially when in context to emergency medicine....

Agreed.

on scifi note:


this foam could make the job of terminator much harder. haha


I mean we can well imagine an additional 15 min fight before Arnold Schwarzenegger's title character could say "Hasta la vista, baby" in the 1991 science fiction thriller film Terminator 2: Judgment Day

 

[VCheng]

Agreed.

on scifi note:


this foam could make the job of terminator much harder. haha


I mean we can well imagine an additional 15 min fight before Arnold Schwarzenegger's title character could say "Hasta la vista, baby" in the 1991 science fiction thriller film Terminator 2: Judgment Day

The future might be closer than you think!

Implantable sensor technology: from research to clinical practice. - PubMed - NCBI

A wireless implantable sensor network system for in vivo monitoring... - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Aepsilons]

The future might be closer than you think!

Implantable sensor technology: from research to clinical practice. - PubMed - NCBI

A wireless implantable sensor network system for in vivo monitoring... - PubMed - NCBI

Agreed.

on scifi note:


this foam could make the job of terminator much harder. haha


I mean we can well imagine an additional 15 min fight before Arnold Schwarzenegger's title character could say "Hasta la vista, baby" in the 1991 science fiction thriller film Terminator 2: Judgment Day

Brain Chips Could Help the Blind See : Discovery News

Just amazing how breakthroughs in medical science is changing lives, will change lives.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

A wireless implantable sensor network system for in vivo monitoring... - PubMed - NCBI

Anything on a human application? I could see this being very helpful for parents with Autistic children who are prone to wandering and often find themselves put in dangerous situations... sometimes even life threatening situations.

A wireless implantable sensor network system for in vivo monitoring... - PubMed - NCBI

You might be interested in this article as well - Wireless, implanted sensor broadens range of brain research

Wireless, implanted sensor broadens range of brain research

This one as well - Non-Invasive In Vivo Imaging of Near Infrared-labeled Transferrin in Breast Cancer Cells and Tumors Using Fluorescence Lifetime FRET

PLOS ONE: Non-Invasive In Vivo Imaging of Near Infrared-labeled Transferrin in Breast Cancer Cells and Tumors Using Fluorescence Lifetime FRET

 

[FaujHistorian]

Brain Chips Could Help the Blind See : Discovery News

Just amazing how breakthroughs in medical science is changing lives, will change lives.

Combine this with artificial intelligence (synthetic intell), embryo selection, and you will have humans who will live 250 years healthy life.

Sex will be purely for pleasure.

Babies will be born (nay manufactured) in the lab to exact specs of these 250 years couples.

We may have to import few frozen eggs and sperms from women/men living on Mars or Saturn moons in order to keep the gene pool healthy (that is if we don't put genetic variations synthetically).

Ok you got my inner philosopher going @Nihonjin1051. It is all your fault. hahah.

 

[VCheng]

Brain Chips Could Help the Blind See : Discovery News

Just amazing how breakthroughs in medical science is changing lives, will change lives.

Anything on a human application? I could see this being very helpful for parents with Autistic children who are prone to wandering and often find themselves put in dangerous situations... sometimes even life threatening situations.



You might be interested in this article as well - Wireless, implanted sensor broadens range of brain research

Wireless, implanted sensor broadens range of brain research

This one as well - Non-Invasive In Vivo Imaging of Near Infrared-labeled Transferrin in Breast Cancer Cells and Tumors Using Fluorescence Lifetime FRET

PLOS ONE: Non-Invasive In Vivo Imaging of Near Infrared-labeled Transferrin in Breast Cancer Cells and Tumors Using Fluorescence Lifetime FRET

Combine this with artificial intelligence (synthetic intell), embryo selection, and you will have humans who will live 250 years healthy life.

Sex will be purely for pleasure.

Babies will be born (nay manufactured) in the lab to exact specs of these 250 years couples.

We may have to import few frozen eggs and sperms from women/men living on Mars or Saturn moons in order to keep the gene pool healthy (that is if we don't put genetic variations synthetically).

Ok you got my inner philosopher going @Nihonjin1051. It is all your fault. hahah.

The future is bright indeed:

Stem Cells Grow Beating Heart : Discovery News

The synergy of all these new technologies will change human societies forever.

 

[Aepsilons]

Combine this with artificial intelligence (synthetic intell), embryo selection, and you will have humans who will live 250 years healthy life.

Sex will be purely for pleasure.

Babies will be born (nay manufactured) in the lab to exact specs of these 250 years couples.

We may have to import few frozen eggs and sperms from women/men living on Mars or Saturn moons in order to keep the gene pool healthy (that is if we don't put genetic variations synthetically).

Ok you got my inner philosopher going @Nihonjin1051. It is all your fault. hahah.

Haha I noticed that you are a philosopher after reading some of your threads, Sir.