Two front war | Which nation will ally with India against SinoPak ?

[Kompromat]

Why would ANY country join another country's war??? This is just plain stupid. China never joined Pakistans wars in the past, now people are fantasizing that a big strong nation like china will do the dirty work of a small nation in trouble.

Yes, that's how it works infact that's written on the UFO parked next to my house.

Lets do justice to our intelligence.

India preparing for a possible two-front war with Pakistan, China | Blue Book

Again,

you are creating hypothetical scenarios based on assumption you make up as you go. What answers do you seek when you know more than anyone else??? Or as I suspected all along, you are not seeking any answers but telling us something.

That is the purpose of the forum, to have debates and discuss ideas. If you are not interested you can opt out of this discussion.

 

[A.Rafay]

Iran will ally with India, they are friends forever with historical ties. @SOHEIL

 

[scorpionx]

Same country that dispatched a nuclear carrier battle group in towards your waters in 1971?

We are in 2013,I suppose? Even for the sake of the argument we draw the country's allegiances in the previous wars into discussion,there is no hope for a Pakistan-China alliance either,isn't?
Both the countries,Pakistan and China failed to gain advantage when Indians were fighting their respective wars with these two eternal allies.

 

[Barakah]

Do you think Iran will join India in war against Pakistan and China ? - What makes you think so?

They will do anything to have a weak Pakistan that can pose no threat on them. Economically and Military wise. Its just common sense. Having Pakistan weak, Creating Sunni Shia divide will make Pakistan weaker. Iran wants to spread its influence and look after its own Interests. They still don't like the fact that Arabs have an influence in Pakistan, A country that borders Iran. You don't think your self that Iran would just be neutral sit back and watch? This would be a perfect opportunity for them to increase their influence in Pakistan and decrease Arab influence. Remember we are a play ground for Persians and Arabs. What we need to do is stay united as one no matter Shia or Sunni.

 

[Iggy]

Indian superpower/regional ambitions call for 'creating allies' - A power without allies never becomes a superpower.

Just look at WWII history, if something like that was to happen in S.Asia, its worth nothing for India as to who is going to stand up against a China Pakistan alliance.

By allies, you mean countries who we can trust to provide us arms, ammunition's and oil with out any hindrance, then I can name a few.. If you mean that those who send their troops to fight along side us, no one.. No country is suicide enough to fight for another country in this current environment.. Its plain stupid...

Same country that dispatched a nuclear carrier battle group in towards your waters in 1971?

Yupz same old US.. Its like they can catch the fish with out their hands getting wet.. Who you think will benefit more when a war is broken out between India and China?

 

[A.Rafay]

The nations which assisted India in 1962 war - Bhutan and USA.

Nation which assisted India in 1971 war - Soviet Union.

Nation which assisted India in 1999 - Israel.

In a conflict with Sino-Pak, USA will be the major external player for India and maybe the Russians too.

Only USA will and can mobilize military assets in event of Indian request of assistance.

Too bad the iranians feel left out!

 

[kaykay]

China has never supported Pakistan in it's wars with India and will never do in future. In South Asia every country is independent and will fight war at own risk.

 

[Kompromat]

No way.

India just cut off ALL their oil imports from Iran in July. After which Iran detained an Indian vessel.

Now India is going back to Iranian oil for one reason only, the Rupee is collapsing and they can buy Iranian oil with Rupees instead of dollars. Which will ease their enormous current account deficit.

And even if Iran decided to do that, we have no land border with Iran, and it would be impractical for them to send their troops to the Kashmir region or the AP region.

No country in the world would send in their own troops to fight on behalf of India against China and Pakistan. Hell, no country in the world will even make a simple "statement of support" to India against China, and that is the least they could have done during the recent incursions.

An opinion worth reading.

War against Pakistan and China? You'd need Napoleon | The National

 

[notsuperstitious]

Lets do justice to our intelligence.

India preparing for a possible two-front war with Pakistan, China | Blue Book



That is the purpose of the forum, to have debates and discuss ideas. If you are not interested you can opt out of this discussion.

India preparing for a two front war is just the professional duty of our armed forces to prepare for all scenarios. Its not an impossible scenario, just improbable.

What has that got to india's superpower ambitions, making allies who will send troops for war etc etc is indeed beyond my intelligence. Infact all such data about the two front war nowhere envisages third party support.

But as I said, you seem to know more than me, so why don't you just tell me rather than pretend to ask?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

They will do anything to have a weak Pakistan that can pose no threat on them. Economically and Military wise. Its just common sense. Having Pakistan weak, Creating Sunni Shia divide will make Pakistan weaker. Iran wants to spread its influence and look after its own Interests. They still don't like the fact that Arabs have an influence in Pakistan, A country that borders Iran. You don't think your self that Iran would just be neutral sit back and watch? This would be a perfect opportunity for them to increase their influence in Pakistan and decrease Arab influence. Remember we are a play ground for Persians and Arabs. What we need to do is stay united as one no matter Shia or Sunni.

Iran would send soldiers to fight for India against China + Pakistan?

Even in a hypothetical situation that is just too implausible.

Iran was in fact helping Pakistan in previous wars, as they are fellow Muslim nations.

And we obviously don't have to talk about China-Iran ties, we are by far the largest buyer of Iranian oil... while India cut off their oil purchases from Iran completely in July, for which Iran then detained an Indian ship.

We are the biggest source of funding for Iran in a world where they have been sanctioned, not to mention we have a VETO in the UNSC which we can use to cover them and Syria.

And in fact we have vetoed numerous UNSC resolutions on Syria, despite the screaming of the West. Guess who voted along Western lines regarding Syria? That would be India.

 

[Iggy]

Lets do justice to our intelligence.

India preparing for a possible two-front war with Pakistan, China | Blue Book

Mate, how does it be wrong to prepare for worst case scenario?? It has nothing to do with the ambition of regional and international power.. Being border with these two nations and the history with them, the chances are likely to have a two front war.. I dont think, our defense forces do not count on anybody to send soldiers to help us in the event of war..

 

[notsuperstitious]

Iran would send soldiers to fight for India against China + Pakistan?

Even in a hypothetical situation that is just too implausible.

Iran was in fact helping Pakistan in previous wars, as they are fellow Muslim nations.

And we obviously don't have to talk about China-Iran ties, we are by far the largest buyer of Iranian oil... while India cut off their oil purchases from Iran completely in July, for which Iran then detained an Indian ship.

Nobody in India even knew that Iran was supposed to send their troops to fight for India too For that matter sri lanka, Bhutan or Bangladesh LOL!

 

[Barakah]

Iran would send soldiers to fight for India against China + Pakistan?

Even in a hypothetical situation that is just too implausible.

Iran was in fact helping Pakistan in previous wars, as they are fellow Muslim nations.

And we obviously don't have to talk about China-Iran ties, we are by far the largest buyer of Iranian oil... while India cut off their oil purchases from Iran completely in July, for which Iran then detained an Indian ship.

Iran would never help in direct combat. Only indirectly, sending in proxies causing terror and increasing their influence in Pakistan. Remember that Iran has never started a direct war in quiet a long time, Its changed the way it fights, Stealth mode.

 

[scorpionx]

The USA would play a decisive role?

They wouldn't even make a simple "statement of support" to India over the recent Chinese incursions. Not even a simple statement.

Hell, the USA wouldn't even help their close ally South Korea, when North Korea was bombing them and sinking their ships (with hundreds of sailors on board) just a few years ago. And the USA has a mutual defence pact with South Korea!

Though of course I welcome any Indian who believes that the USA would save them from China (America's biggest trading partner and largest creditor) and Pakistan (the USA's major non-NATO ally).

All in order to help India who stubbornly wants to be non-aligned and even goes against America on issues like Iran. That sounds plausible.

Hypothetical question should be answered with equal hypothetical responses,isn't? Why Indians should have reasons to believe that it will have to fight a two front war? Even if in that case,Don't you think New Delhi will create a mayhem vehemently in the diplomatic world if it gets slightest hint of this attack? Why are we ignoring two vital factors, International Pressure and minimum Nuclear deterrent?

 

[Kompromat]

We are in 2013,I suppose? Even for the sake of the argument we draw the country's allegiances in the previous wars into discussion,there is no hope for a Pakistan-China alliance either,isn't?
Both the countries,Pakistan and China failed to gain advantage when Indians were fighting their respective wars with these two eternal allies.

Your Army has a totally different opinion to that of yours, when they are seriously worried and preparing for a two front war. This opinion is based on your military thinking not my personal opinion.