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U.S. Military Taught Officers ‘Hiroshima’ Tactics for ‘Total War’ on Islam

So what is a 'real American' in your definition? A white person? Does that mean YOU are comfortable with looking at the world through a racist/racial prism like the Chinese do? What about you? Are you first a Pakistani or a Brit? Which country has your loyalty, Pakistan or Britain? Why are you in Britain?

Whether you like it or not I speak the truth.

For example a mango someone that comes from Pakistan fresh first generation has different views and sometimes in their excitement to justify their new nationality go overboard. As it is my assertion the case with you and VC

for example I as a fourth gen Pakistani Brit have no problem disagreeing with Brit govt. In fact a majority of us Brits were against the Iraq war.

But I can imagine if my grand father's position in the same circumstances would have been different.

I am proud of my origins. I have loyalties to UK too. But I try to say what I think is just immaterial whether its in favour of UK or Pakistan.

Justice has no nationality or race

Back to topic it is sad that such courses have been run by the American military
 
Again, this is your diversion and not a requirement for Dooley's hypothetical scenario, but anwyay...

Past Party Collusion with Drug Lords Fouls Mexican Candidate

During the 1980s and 1990s, elected officials and appointees of PRI governments, from Federal Police heavyweight Guillermo Gonzalez Calderoni to drug czar Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, built up a record of active collusion with Mexican gangs.

Despite the PRI being out of power for the last 12 years, evidence of their links to the drug trade have continued to emerge


Eight candidates backed by drug lords win: PDEA

BBC News - Drug cartels threaten Latin American democracy - OAS

Cartels are influencing elections by threatening politicians and even running their own candidates, OAS Secretary for Multidimensional Security Adam Blackwell said.
And until Mexico or Columbia made the export of substances -- deem illegal in other countries -- part of national policy and foreign affairs, we are willing to be generous to the current governments in believing they want nothing to do with the drug cartels. You failed.

I am too lazy to dig up the video of the head US chaplain in Afghanistan telling his troops that they were fighting for Jesus. Feel free to look it up yourself.
But is the Jesus he was talking about a militant one?

The Jamestown Foundation: Jordanian Poll Indicates Erosion of Public Support for al-Qaeda
The ramifications of the November 9, 2005 Amman suicide bombings indicate that the terrorist act played a major role in changing people's attitudes toward terrorism.

The poll reported a "radical change" in Jordanians' attitudes toward those who kill American and Israeli civilians, but reported no "dramatic change" in their attitudes toward killing U.S. and Israeli military forces. The percentage of those who considered the September 11 attacks "terrorist" acts rose to 61.4% as opposed to 34.6% in 2004.
What this mean is that in 2004, over half of Jordanians, presumably muslims, believed that the 9/11 attack on US was a legitimate military-style attack on a hostile country. It was only after the Amman killing of fellow muslims that there was a change in attitude. They believed that their government was too weak to act on muslims' behalf and that it took the individual courage of 19 martyrs to do what all the muslim governments would not do.

So to reverse this change in attitude, all Al-Qaeda have to do is attack non-muslims. It does not matter if is the original Al-Qaeda or some rebranding of the same mentality. Just behead a few more journalists/CIA/Mossad agents and everything will be hunky-dory. At the same time, get more involved in local politics through the normal democratic processes, as much as those governments will allow. No need to burn any US flags. Just spout of the same old rhetoric about the 'oppressed muslims' and get as many votes as possible.

YOU would approve of such tactics.
 
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Lt. Col. Matthew A. Dooley's Joint Staff Forces College presentation on "A Counter-Jihad Op Design Model" (.pdf) calls for violent measures in a war against Islam.


The U.S. military taught its future leaders that a “total war” against the world’s 1.4 billion Muslims would be necessary to protect America from Islamic terrorists, according to documents obtained by Danger Room. Among the options considered for that conflict: using the lessons of “Hiroshima” to wipe out whole cities at once, targeting the “civilian population wherever necessary.”

The course, first reported by Danger Room last month and held at the Defense Department’s Joint Forces Staff College, has since been canceled by the Pentagon brass. It’s only now, however, that the details of the class have come to light. Danger Room received hundreds of pages of course material and reference documents from a source familiar with the contents of the class.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff recently ordered the entire U.S. military to scour its training material to make sure it doesn’t contain similarly hateful material, a process that is still ongoing. But the officer who delivered the lectures, Army Lt. Col. Matthew A. Dooley, still maintains his position at the Norfolk, Virginia college, pending an investigation. The commanders, lieutenant colonels, captains and colonels who sat in Dooley’s classroom, listening to the inflammatory material week after week, have now moved into higher-level assignments throughout the U.S. military.

For the better part of the last decade, a small cabal of self-anointed counterterrorism experts has been working its way through the U.S. military, intelligence and law enforcement communities, trying to convince whoever it could that America’s real terrorist enemy wasn’t al-Qaida — but the Islamic faith itself. In his course, Dooley brought in these anti-Muslim demagogues as guest lecturers. And he took their argument to its final, ugly conclusion.

“We have now come to understand that there is no such thing as ‘moderate Islam,’” Dooley noted in a July 2011 presentation (.pdf), which concluded with a suggested manifesto to America’s enemies. “It is therefore time for the United States to make our true intentions clear. This barbaric ideology will no longer be tolerated. Islam must change or we will facilitate its self-destruction.”

Dooley could not be reached for comment. Joint Forces Staff College spokesman Steven Williams declined to discuss Dooley’s presentation or his status at the school. But when asked if Dooley was responsible for the course material, he responded, “I don’t know if I would classify him [Dooley] as responsible. That would be the commandant” of the school, Maj. Gen. Joseph Ward.

That makes the two-star general culpable for rather shocking material. In the same presentation, Dooley lays out a possible four-phase war plan to carry out a forced transformation of the Islam religion. Phase three includes possible outcomes like “Islam reduced to a cult status” and “Saudi Arabia threatened with starvation.” (It’s an especially ironic suggestion, in light of today’s news that Saudi intelligence broke up the most recent al-Qaida bombing plot.)

International laws protecting civilians in wartime are “no longer relevant,” Dooley continues. And that opens the possibility of applying “the historical precedents of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki” to Islam’s holiest cities, and bringing about “Mecca and Medina['s] destruction.”


Dooley’s ideological allies have repeatedly stated that “mainstream” Muslims are dangerous, because they’re “violent” by nature. Yet only a few of al-Qaida’s most twisted fanatics were ever caught musing about wiping out entire cities.

“Some of these actions offered for consideration here will not be seen as ‘political correct’ in the eyes of many,” Dooley adds. “Ultimately, we can do very little in the West to decide this matter, short of waging total war.”

Dooley, who has worked at the Joint Forces Staff College since August 2010, began his eight-week class with a straightforward, two-part history of Islam. It was delivered by David Fatua, a former West Point history professor. “Unfortunately, if we left it at that, you wouldn’t have the proper balance of points of view, nor would you have an accurate view of how Islam defines itself,” Dooley told his students. Over the next few weeks, he invited in a trio of guest lecturers famous for their incendiary views of Islam.

Shireen Burki declared during the 2008 election that “Obama is bin Laden’s dream candidate.” In her Joint Forces Staff College lecture, she told students that “Islam is an Imperialist/Conquering Religion.” (.pdf)

Stephen Coughlin claimed in his 2007 master’s thesis that then-president George W. Bush’s declaration of friendship with the vast majority of the world’s Muslims had “a chilling effect on those tasked to define the enemy’s doctrine.” (.pdf) Coughlin was subsequently let go from his consulting position to the military’s Joint Staff, but he continued to lecture at the Naval War College and at the FBI’s Washington Field Office. In his talk to Dooley’s class (.pdf), Coughlin suggested that al-Qaida helped drive the overthrow of Egyptian strongman Hosni Mubarak and Libyan dictator Muammar Gadhafi. It was part of a scheme by Islamists to conquer the world, he added. And Coughlin mocked those who didn’t see this plot as clearly as he did, accusing them of “complexification.”

Coughlin titled his talk: “Imposing Islamic Law – or – These Aren’t the Droids Your Looking For!”

Former FBI employee John Guandolo told the conspiratorial World Net Daily website last year that Obama was only the latest president to fall under the influence of Islamic extremists. “The level of penetration in the last three administrations is deep,” Guandolo alleged. In his reference material for the Joint Forces Staff College class, Guandolo not only spoke of today’s Muslims as enemies of the West. He even justified the Crusades, writing that they “were initiated after hundreds of years of Muslim incursion into Western lands.”

Guandolo’s paper, titled “Usual Responses from the Enemy When Presented With the Truth” (.pdf), was one of hundreds of presentations, documents, videos and web links electronically distributed to the Joint Forces Staff College students. Included in that trove: a paper alleging that “it is a permanent command in Islam for Muslims to hate and despise Jews and Christians” (.pdf). So was a video lecture from Serge Trifkovic, a former professor who appeared as a defense witness in several trials of Bosnian Serb leaders convicted of war crimes, including the genocide of Muslims. A web link, titled “Watch Before This Is Pulled,” supposedly shows President Obama — the commander-in-chief of the senior officers attending the course — admitting that he’s a Muslim.

Dooley added the caveats that his views are “not the Official Policy of the United States Government” and are intended “to generate dynamic discussion and thought.” But he taught his fellow military officers that Obama’s alleged admission could well make the commander in chief some sort of traitor. “By conservative estimates,” 10 percent of the world’s Muslims, “a staggering 140 million people … hate everything you stand for and will never coexist with you, unless you submit” to Islam. He added, “Your oath as a professional soldier forces you to pick a side here.” It is unclear if Dooley’s “total war” on Muslims also applied to his “Muslim” commander in chief.

After the Pentagon brass learned of Dooley’s presentation, the country’s top military officer, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey, issued an order to every military chief and senior commander to get rid of any similar anti-Islam instructional material. Dempsey issued the order because the White House had already instructed the entire security apparatus of the federal government — military and civilian — to revamp its counterterrorism training after learning of FBI material that demonized Islam.

By then, Dooley had already presented his apocalyptic vision for a global religious war. Flynn has ordered a senior officer, Army Maj. Gen. Frederick Rudesheim, to investigate how precisely Dooley managed to get away with that extended presentation in an official Defense Department-sanctioned course. The results of that review are due May 24.

Ironically, Dooley and his guest lecturers paint a dire picture of the forward march of Islamic extremism right as its foremost practitioner feared its implosion. Documents recently declassified by the U.S. government revealed Osama bin Laden fretting about al-Qaida’s brutal methods and damaged brand alienating the vast majority of Muslims from choosing to wage holy war. Little could he have known that U.S. military officers were thinking of ways to ignite one.

U.S. Military Taught Officers: Use 'Hiroshima' Tactics for 'Total War' on Islam | Danger Room | Wired.com

Brilliant article exposing US's intentions towards this region. They have already formed cults such as the Taliban and Al Qaeda which are champions at killing innocent Muslims.
 
Whether you like it or not I speak the truth.

For example a mango someone that comes from Pakistan fresh first generation has different views and sometimes in their excitement to justify their new nationality go overboard. As it is my assertion the case with you and VC

for example I as a fourth gen Pakistani Brit have no problem disagreeing with Brit govt. In fact a majority of us Brits were against the Iraq war.

But I can imagine if my grand father's position in the same circumstances would have been different.

I am proud of my origins. I have loyalties to UK too. But I try to say what I think is just immaterial whether its in favour of UK or Pakistan.

Justice has no nationality or race

Back to topic it is sad that such courses have been run by the American military
Suuurrre you do. :lol: So what you are saying is that your racial prism is applicable only to me but not you. No wonder I laugh at you racists in your mental gymnastics. Be proud of what you are: a racist. It does not mean you have to hate. It just mean you consider racial identity to be and should be the dominant factor in anyone's view of the world. To me, a Klansman got more courage than you.
 
And until Mexico or Columbia made the export of substances -- deem illegal in other countries -- part of national policy and foreign affairs, we are willing to be generous to the current governments in believing they want nothing to do with the drug cartels.

The officials owned by the drug cartels made it a policy to allow the drug trafficking, which amounts to the same thing. Whether the policy is de jure or de facto, the end result is the same since the criminals' actions are the same.

I am enjoying your dance though. First it was, 'do they export this or that?', then it became 'yes, but do they run candidates?', now you have run off to 'yes, but is it official policy?'

You failed.

Yes, I failed in bringing the discussion back to Dooley's course but it is clear you have run off permanently into your strawmen, given that the course itself is indefensible.

But is the Jesus he was talking about a militant one?

Indubitably.

His troops drove around Afghanistan with a banner reading 'Jesus killed Mohammed'.

P.S. Anyway, it's clear this thread is going nowhere. I am outta here...
 
The officials owned by the drug cartels made it a policy to allow the drug trafficking, which amounts to the same thing. Whether the policy is de jure or de facto, the end result is the same since the criminals' actions are the same.
Then this is a matter of corruption. Drug cartels export a substance. Al-Qaeda and the like minded export what equivalent?

I am enjoying your dance though. First it was, 'do they export this or that?', then it became 'yes, but do they run candidates?', now you have run off to 'yes, but is it official policy?'
:lol: The one who is dancing here is YOU who has to strain at gnats to compare drug cartels with religious and ideologically motivated terrorists.

Yes, I failed in bringing the discussion back to Dooley's course but it is clear you have run off permanently into your strawmen, given that the course itself is indefensible.
Wrong. I have remain with this discussion all this time. The drug cartels and the pirates are YOUR strawmen.

Indubitably.

His troops drove around Afghanistan with a banner reading 'Jesus killed Mohammed'.

P.S. Anyway, it's clear this thread is going nowhere. I am outta here...
Escape while you can. The conversation about and on Islam will continue with and without you. There are no religious banner in the US military, one that allows homosexuals to openly serve while your society oppresses the same group. Another fail argument.
 
Watch videos of US deserters who too asylum in Canada, they told that during training they would shout "Kill haji,, kill haji" ... So i won't doubt OP article a bit, as i herd of their intentions from horse's mouth itself.
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03:55 onwards -&-(04:15+)When stabbing dummies they were told to yell "kill Haji"
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"Haji"!!! really!!! ... now what Vcheng-&-Gambit-&-Co are gonna come up with,,, Ohhh actually it's a slang for terrorists ...
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A Deserter's Tale Part 1 - YouTube
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minutes 02:00+ "Haji" ... what u butchers have against "Hajis"???
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http://youtu.be/HMt5LTmIbVk
 
Watch videos of US deserters who too asylum in Canada, they told that during training they would shout "Kill haji,, kill haji" ... So i won't doubt OP article a bit, as i herd of their intentions from horse's mouth itself.

Shame on the united rogue state
 
Watch videos of US deserters who too asylum in Canada, they told that during training they would shout "Kill haji,, kill haji" ... So i won't doubt OP article a bit, as i herd of their intentions from horse's mouth itself.
Then you have no problems with 'Death to America'?

Shame on the united rogue state
Then you have no problems with putting the same condemnation on those who chant 'Death to America'?
 
Then you have no problems with 'Death to America'?


Then you have no problems with putting the same condemnation on those who chant 'Death to America'?

After the Islamic Revolution in Iran, there was a huge banner outside Tehran Airport with "Marg Bar Amrika" (Death to America) sanctioned by the government itself, not just non-state actors.
 
Then you have no problems with 'Death to America'?


Then you have no problems with putting the same condemnation on those who chant 'Death to America'?

Yea I believe that is inappropriate
 
6:05 onwards:-
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Another us army DESERTER - "more & more stories will come.." - YouTube
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They would kill innocent & then IMPLANT weapons on them & take pictures...
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http://youtu.be/vwoVOSdElx4
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911 was a LIE (6:00 onwards)
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http://youtu.be/QOQ7KwESh4A
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Depleted Uranium used as this guy admits

There was NO insurgency, until after invasion, when poor ppl whose children were murdered by Dajjalis chose to fight back ...
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Then you have no problems with 'Death to America'?
Did you hear anything from me to this effect -or- u like to shove words in others mouth, just like u love to kill ur own ppl & then blame innocent-poor-incapable cave dwellers for ur own crimes ...
 
The US system of Checks and Balances is alive and well.



But there are no Americans with that ideology able to act out their self-adopted war as state or non-state actors, whereas the Islamic extremists are doing both!



Look at the spread of bigotry and hatred in mostly Islamic countries against other sects and their own people as well as the West, and compare that the relatively minor incidence of such trends in USA.

Agreed whole heartedly on all counts..
Except the possibility that at some point.. there is a possibility that some person, in command of formidable US military hardware..May give an order based on teachings such as those taught by Mr Dooley that may be misconstrued by this sub-ordinates as legitimate.

The US can never be compared to Islamic countries since the dynamics at play are apples and oranges...or rather apples and leek.
 
Sorry, but your statement is delirious.
Only Pakistan has nukes, and they are the only one's that could do anything that would kill a few thousand Americans.
That being said, your nukes would probably kill mostly Pakistanis and Pakistan itself. They are the only superpower for a reason and they would not hesitate to completely destroy any threat against their nation.

I pray my God the first country Pakistan nuke should be Israel from that day im sure all problems in this world will solve afterwards from tht day. AMEEN
 
Agreed whole heartedly on all counts..
Except the possibility that at some point.. there is a possibility that some person, in command of formidable US military hardware..May give an order based on teachings such as those taught by Mr Dooley that may be misconstrued by this sub-ordinates as legitimate.

The US can never be compared to Islamic countries since the dynamics at play are apples and oranges...or rather apples and leek.

While an isolated incident or two on a limited scale, at some point in the future, is not totally out of the question, but the odds of even that happening are extremely low. And the chances of anything like that being adopted on a national or global scale are non-existent. Zero.

I pray my God the first country Pakistan nuke should be Israel from that day im sure all problems in this will solve afterwards from tht day. AMEEN

Boy, are you going to be disappointed!
 
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