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Why India is not involved in the Baloch uprising

Malik Siraj Akbar | January 30, 2008 | 14:30 IST

Pakistan's Information Minister Nisar A Memon has hit out at India over the recent remarks of its naval chief regarding the Gwadar port in the southern Balochistan province of Pakistan. Speaking in Chennai, naval chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta, said the port, which is being constructed with China's financial and technical assistance, had 'serious strategic implications for India'.

This statement irked the Pakistani minister so much so that he went to the extent of stating that he suspected India of sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. The minister also alleged that agents of India and like-minded forces who, detest the 'time tested Sino-Pak relations' collaborated in the past to get the Chinese engineers and technicians killed in Balochistan.

The minister travelled a long way from Islamabad to the Baloch capital of Quetta to voice his anguish. To substantiate his allegations, Memon cited the presence of more than a dozen Indian information centres based in Afghanistan as the source of trouble for Pakistan. 'We have serious concerns about these "disinformation centres." We don't want them. If India wants friendly ties with Pakistan then it must immediately remove these disinformation centres,' the minister told a press conference.

It was not the first time that Pakistan has held India, along with Afghanistan, responsible for the ongoing nationalistic insurgency in Balochistan. Islamabad has repeatedly said that India is involved in financing Baloch nationalists and enticing them to create unrest in Balochistan.

On their part, the Baloch nationalists, who presently seek a greater share in national resources and more internal political and administrative autonomy, dispel such allegations. Rather, they believe that Pakistan uses the cliche of 'foreign involvement' in the affairs of Balochistan mainly with the objective to divert attention from the actual Baloch problem. Moreover, the Baloch people have always felt offended whenever their struggle was linked with 'external forces that try to destabilise Pakistan'.

The Baloch leadership has had a very clear response to this attitude. According to a senior Baloch political analyst, "Each time Islamabad accuses the Baloch of getting external assistance, it amounts to questioning Baloch loyalties to the State." He further states that the Pakistani establishment has always given the impression that those coming from Punjab, the country's largest province, are the true 'patriots' of the land. And anyone who dares demand his just constitutional rights has to face the wrath of being declared as an 'anti-national', 'traitor' and 'foreign agent'.

"The Baloch are reminded that they are not patriots of Pakistan. Thus, the challenge ahead of them is to either prove their loyalty to the land or prepare to be declared as anti-nationals."

Six decades of complaints about 'foreign involvement' in creating unrest in Balochistan has done no good to Pakistan neither have its intermittent military operations in the province. Islamabad has resorted to repressive measures to muzzle the Baloch demand for greater autonomy and right of ownership of its natural resources. This has not worked.

The Balochistan issue continues to intensify rapidly. The need of the hour is not to hold Baloch or international forces responsible for the mess but to address the root causes of Baloch sense of deprivation and frustration.

Regardless of how Pakistan, India or/and China view the under-construction port in Gwadar, the truth from Balochistan is that the indigenous Baloch leadership has rejected the port outright. The Baloch do not think like Indian naval chief that 'being only 180 nautical miles from the exit of the Straits of Hormuz, Gwadar would enable Pakistan take control over the world's energy jugular and interdiction of Indian tankers.'

On the contrary, the Baloch have opposed the Gwadar port over the following three, among other, reasons:

Firstly, the Baloch people suffer from a growing fear of being Red-Indianised on their own land. Since today Gwadar is a small township of only 200,000 people, of whom 100 percent are Balochi speakers, they believe that the heavy influx of outsiders will convert them into an ethnic minority on a land they have inhibited for centuries.

Secondly, being economically the most backward ethnic community of Pakistan, the Baloch demand that first and top most priority should be given to them on job opportunities created at Gwadar port. Development would be totally futile, they argue, if economic benefits of the port project do not trickle down to the local population. Since the commencement of development work kicked off in the early 2000s, Pakistan has ruthlessly ignored the local youth while granting jobs at the port.

Another demand of the Baloch leadership is that the government should impart technical training among the Baloch youth so that they are prepared to run 'their port' in the future. This has, however, not happened, which has given currency to the widespread feeling among the Baloch that Gwadar port is being constructed to colonise them.

Thirdly, the Pakistani military, which is hardly represented by one percent of Baloch-speaking recruits, has acquired huge areas of land in Gwadar. Having carried five military operations against the Baloch people in the past, Pakistan's military is not so popular to be welcomed in a Baloch area with a bouquet of roses. Baloch leaders fear that they would be ousted from their land and Gwadar would be transformed into a garrison district where civilians would be denied entry.

Veteran Baloch nationalist leader Sardar Attaullah Mengal explained the Baloch stance on the Gwadar port in an interview with the Lahore-based English weekly, The Friday Times: 'We have never opposed the idea of developing Gwadar or any other part of Balochistan. We apprised the Mushahid Hussain-led parliamentary sub-committee about our reservations. Since Gwadar is a small coastal town, the influx of a large number of outsiders when the port becomes operational will result in serious demographic changes. The total population of Balochistan is half of Karachi's population. The government is planning to set up another Karachi at Gwadar. We will be outnumbered.'

According to Mengal, who also served as the first chief minister of Balochistan in 1970s, 'We have asked the government to debate the entire proposal with us. We want to know who is going to benefit from this mega project. If the project is meant to bring economic prosperity to others at our cost, we won't let that happen. The government should not give outsiders the right to vote in Gwadar. We welcome anyone who is interested in investing in Gwadar. But they should pay taxes to the government of Balochistan. Moreover, the revenue collection against imports and exports from Gwadar Port should go to Balochistan. The federal government mustn't interfere in the matters of the port. It should be up to Balochistan to decide how much it wants to contribute to the divisible pool.'

That said, Islamabad has to firstly convince its own people in Balochistan that the Gwadar port is essential for them. On the other hand, a Baloch leader views this whole development process very cynically: "We do not accept the ruling military junta. We want to live in the country in a democratic manner as a federating unit instead of becoming a colony of Islamabad. We see Islamabad as another East India Company which had spread a network of roads, railway lines and tunnels to meet its objectives. Islamabad is working in a similar fashion to annex the natural assets of the Baloch people. First of all, Islamabad exploited our natural gas resources and then used the province's strategic location for testing nuclear devices and established cantonments but no development work was carried out."

When a prominent Baloch leader, Senator Sanaullah Baloch of the Balochistan National Party was asked in an interview with Newsline magazine if the Baloch got any assistance from India, he replied: 'This is totally untrue. No one has better relations with India than General Pervez Musharraf himself. The best chance for India to intervene was in 1973 when a full blown insurgency was underway. The fact is that the Baloch movement is totally indigenous, motivated by political frustration, fuelled by Islamabad's decades of indifference. Such allegations are being levelled to create an excuse for a military operation.'

He added that such movements take birth everywhere due to sheer inequalities. 'Pakistan should learn a lesson from Yugoslavia and Indonesia. The country is heading towards Balkanisation. Indonesia took a wise step after a series of blunders in East Timor and with Finnish mediation, the Indonesian government has agreed to give provincial autonomy to the Aceh freedom fighters. The agreement signed in Finland between the Aceh movement and the Indonesian government is greatly similar to what we demand from Islamabad.'

Malik Siraj Akbar is the Balochistan bureau chief of the Daily Times and can be reached at: [email protected]
 
I think that this article is worthy of discussion. The author is a bureau chief for the Daily times.
 
One thing I want to make clear there are 2 types of baloch nationalist elements.

1) Who want their rights.I mean economic as well as provincial autonomy.

2)those who want separation.

The latter is supported by not just RAW but even NATO and CIA bcz a Greater separate balochistan serve their interests.


The former like Mr.Mengal,Abdul hayee Baloch,Aslam Bizenjo are just Nationalists.

Even the Baloch insurgents have many categories.There are those who are willing to talk like the ones who have hinted for a settlement with ZARDARI.

But at the same time their are those who dont wanna talk.Their financing we believe comes from india since it is nealry impossible to sustain this level of insurgency.


Now what the new gov of PPPP is going to do as it has hinted is to go for a settlement.

1)Outsiders might come to balochistan but we can give the present Baloch population the right to vote ONLY.

2)They should be given autonomy as it was intended in 1973 constitution that after 10 years Concurrent list shall be given to provinces.

3)They should be given a major share in revenues and only the percantage that Federation requires for DEFENCE,COMMUNICATION and equating the Other provinces should be given to federation.
 
I think we are now giving the deserving rights to Balochs. They had not been treated well in the past but now major mega projects are being built in Balochistan and nowadays everyone is talking about provincial autonomy so hopefully they will get it.
Once I was watching an interview of Akhtar Mengal and he said that Kabul can’t give us any thing and we don’t know any one in Delhi we are loyal Pakistanis and just demanding our rights. So the process of giving their rights is now started and hopefully the situation will be improved.
 
And the Pakistani media is.......?

Cut out your holy than thou attitude!

Pak media has proved to be a damp squib!

You thunder and snort here, on a US origin forum.

Could we see one article of yours than shows the same thunder and brimstone, even if short of facts and logic as usual?
 
And the Pakistani media is.......?

Cut out your holy than thou attitude!

Pak media has proved to be a damp squib!

You thunder and snort here, on a US origin forum.

Could we see one article of yours than shows the same thunder and brimstone, even if short of facts and logic as usual?

Why dont you comment logically rather than resorting to such perosnal attacks as if something got injured and attacked everyone for that.

BTW im not as old as you to snort ;)
 
there's no doubt india is involved, but i'm not so sure if they're the only ones. i hope pakistan can eliminate the threats residing there. although the major networks have been crushed, there is still a low intensity conflict happening there. can anyone enlighten me on the plight of the baluchi people, most preferably someone who's recently been there?
 
Why dont you comment logically rather than resorting to such perosnal attacks as if something got injured and attacked everyone for that.

BTW im not as old as you to snort ;)

Can be done if the posts are logical and factual and not flights of craze!

Age has nothing to do with snorting!

Time you educated yourself!
 
there's no doubt india is involved, but i'm not so sure if they're the only ones. i hope pakistan can eliminate the threats residing there. although the major networks have been crushed, there is still a low intensity conflict happening there. can anyone enlighten me on the plight of the baluchi people, most preferably someone who's recently been there?

Sure?

You know more than your govt and ISI?

Why don't you step into Balochistan if you are that keen on knowing what's up since you are so keen!

Anybody has stopped you?
 
Asad read the bellow so you can understand why NOT, India, US, Russia can be involved in Balochistan trouble.

Though Alhamdu Lillah there is no major insurgency.
Despite the ganging up of India against Pakistan in Afghanistan.

BLA has only succeeded in blowing low gaslines.
These R.ATS failed to make big fuss.
 
asadul Islam here it is

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The Balochistan conspiracyShahid Saleem Afzal

The world started to realize the importance of Central Asia after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The vast economic potential of the region and its geo-strategic location has lured many nations to the area in a bid to establish their influence and outwit others. Besides the superpowers, countries in the proximity have also joined the race. Regional countries i.e. Pakistan, India and Iran are the most aggressive contenders.
India has high stakes in Central Asia. A number of factors govern India’s moves towards CARs and efforts to ‘suit’ them. In addition to quest for energy, these include pursuit of geo-strategic and economic goals with an overriding desire to outflank archrival Pakistan. India’s growing need for energy coupled with her aspirations of becoming a regional power, and ultimately a global one, underlies New Delhi’s increased interest in the region. India’s grabbing of Siachin in 1984 and establishing a military base there was the first major step towards achieving global designs.
In September 2000, during the second Eurasian conference held at St Petersburg, India, Russia and Iran signed an intergovernmental agreement on a North-South transport corridor to facilitate faster and cheaper movement of goods from South Asia to Europe, and to establish a strategic transport link between Asia and Europe via Iran, Central Asia and Russia.
The envisaged North-South transport corridor stretches from ports of India across the Arabian Sea to the southern Iranian port of Bandar Abbas, where goods then transit Iran and the Caspian Sea to ports in the Russian sector of the Caspian. From there, the corridor stretches along the Volga River via Moscow to northern Europe. This, experts believe, would reduce the trading delivery time by 10–15 days. Currently, the favoured destination for the bulk of goods is through the Mediterranean and the Suez Canal. The operational cost will also be reduced by 20 to 25 per cent.
Pakistan’s interest in Central Asia evolves from creating a land route to Central Asia from the port of Gwadar in the Balochistan province of Pakistan and passing through Afghanistan. Gwadar can serve as a hub for export of Central Asian products including petroleum and gas to Asia and Europe. Asian and European products can also be imported by the CARs through this route. Pakistan is assiduously working on this scheme and as a first step and has already developed the port of Gwadar with Chinese assistance.
The North-South Corridor and the alternate route from Gwadar are therefore in competition involving political and economic considerations of strategic importance. The Gwadar-CARs route is taking shape and India is trying her utmost to undermine the project by stirring insurgency in Balochistan. The situation in Balochistan remains volatile. Baloch sardars with large private armies have created a law and order situation, blackmailing the government for provision of private funds. Unfortunately these sardars pocket these funds and hinder development in Balochistan to maintain their hold, resulting in a backward and deprived population. They continue to attack ‘natural gas’ fields since December 2005 when the government decided to bring law and order to the area and cease provision of funds directly to the sardars. Private armies of these sardars are armed to the teeth with light and heavy weaponry. It is mind boggling as to from where do they get the weapons? There are several sources from where a continuous supply is maintained.
The first shipment of arms and ammunition was received by the Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) from Afghanistan but as the number of camps grew, new supply routes were opened from India. Kishangarh is a small Indian town, barely five kilometres from Pakistan border. There is a supply depot and a training centre there that maintains contacts with militant training camps in Balochistan. There is also a logistics support depot near Shahgarh, about 90 kilometers from Kishangarh that serves as launching pad for the Indian supplies and experts. The method of transfer from India to Balochistan is simple. Arms and equipment such as Klashnikov, heavy machine guns, small AA guns, RPGs, mortars, landmines, ammunition and communication equipment are transferred from Kishangarh and Shahgarh to Pakistani side on camel back and then they are shifted to goods trucks, with some legitimate cargo on top and the whole load is covered by tarpaulin sheets. The trucks have to travel only 140 or 180 kilometres to reach Sui and Kohlu in Balochistan, a distance that can be covered in a few hours only. The small arms and light equipment are mostly of Russian origin because they are easily available, cheap, and difficult to trace back to any single source. A massive amount of cash is also flowing into these camps through the Indian Consulates in Afghanistan.
Smuggling of arms by India through Afghanistan has been a source of great worry for Pakistan. Owais Ghani, the governor of Balochistan province told reporters on 8 February 2006 that US coalition forces in Afghanistan were approached to stop the smuggling. A tripartite agreement was signed in 2003 by India, Iran and Afghanistan for construction of a highway linking the Iranian port of Chahbahar to the main afghan road network at Delaram. The Iranians are constructing the portion from Chahbahar to Zaranj and the Zaranj-Delaram section has been entrusted to the Border Road Organisation (BRO), an Indian military organisation. This portion (220km) is being funded by India at a cost of USD 84 million. The project is headed by a serving Indian brigadier. Machinery for the project was transported through Chahbahar and Bandar Abbas to BRO in Afghanistan. According to Afghan customs, about 80,000 kg explosives have already been transported to BRO through the Iran route. The Zaranj-Delaram route is a semi-desert area and does not require such a huge quantity of explosives. The Afghan government which is dominated by the Northern Alliance is sympathetic to India and has exempted all material intended for BRO from inspection by customs, including explosives. A major portion of these explosives is being smuggled into Balochistan by the Indian spy agency RAW to fuel the insurgency. The road project is already far behind the stipulated timelines and is expected to continue indefinitely on one pretext or the other as it provides free flow of arms and ammunition intended for subversive activities in Pakistan.
The Zaranj-Delaram project and the BRO are well known for notoriety. In December 2005 a consignment of 100 tons of explosives in five containers, shipped to BRO in Afghanistan went missing from a merchant ship about 15 miles off the coast of Mumbai. The captain of the ship MV Eugena claimed that the containers had sunk in the sea in rough weather. The ship has a dubious track record and the story is doubtful as the Arabian Sea is extremely calm in the month of December. Media reports indicate that the master of the ship was in cahoots with the RAW and the consignment was off loaded on the Balochistan coast to support the insurgency.
Three Chinese engineers and their Pakistani driver were killed on 15 February 2006 in Hub city, about 700 kilometres south of Quetta. The Chinese were returning to their homes from work at Attock Cement Factory. A man identifying himself as Meerak Baloch and claiming to be a spokesman of the Baloch Liberation Army, the Indian surrogate, claimed responsibility for the attack. He said that the Chinese should stop work on all projects that the Baloch oppose in the province. Earlier, three Chinese engineers were killed and 11 injured when a powerful car bomb exploded in Gwadar in May 2004. The Chinese are working on several important development projects in Balochistan.
Pakistan and India have embarked on a peace initiative and both sides are working on Confidence Building Measures (CBMs). But unfortunately India has not responded to President Musharraf’s request to address the core issues of Kashmir, Sir Creek, Siachen etc. On the contrary, Indian involvement in fanning insurgency and violence is undermining the CBMs. Indo-Pakistan relations can only improve if both countries work earnestly towards this end.





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Sure?
You know more than your govt and ISI?
Why don't you step into Balochistan if you are that keen on knowing what's up since you are so keen!
Anybody has stopped you?
my, my:tsk:, such a respectable member of this forum like Salim, replies this way to a post not meant for him? :tsk:
 
thank you jana for pulling the article out, i understand you had go dig it up.
 
hasn't the PA sealed off their supply roots? i thought they were being choked out of hiding?
 
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