Super Falcon
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 3, 2008
- Messages
- 15,815
- Reaction score
- -8
- Country
- Location
Saudos preparing their dog to fight their dirty war against turks
Egypt signs $2 billion deal for 50 MiG-35 fighter jets from Russia
- Thread starter Kailash Kumar
- Start date
Facts versus Turkish dreams
Egyptian Citation Sovereign ELINT/ISR
Turks always talk about the future and future purchases and future production, which are unreliable things.
Turkey is subject to sanctions and sanctions will increase until the regime collapses and Turkey's military capabilities are effectively restricted
Unlike talking about future production, we cannot believe it.
We have not talked about the efficiency of leaderships or the level of training.
Turks have real and huge problems in the field
Limited types of fighters in exchange for not having a full air defense of the Turkish territory, which led to their dependence on the limited fighters have
The Turkish Phantom is already out of service, although Turks deny it is in service
There is no AESA radar in Turkey. They are talking about future production. There is nothing. There is no dependence on a product under development.
Those who have fighters with AESA radars are Egypt and Israel only
The Turks say that in the future they will own and also Egypt will enter more of the radars already in service.
Egypt is negotiating an additional batch of Rafale 12 aircraft besides Egypt's Rafale with AESA radar since 2015
The capacity of Egyptian fighter jets represents an additional 50% in the delivery of ammunition for Turkish fighter aircraft as a result of the larger Egyptian air force
Egypt has not only fighter jets but also a wide variety of munitions, while Turkey has limited types of munitions mounted on thousands
For every Munitions Turkey has, Egypt has several Munitions in return, which is one of Turkey's real problems
Turkey, for example, has missiles Aim-120 Egypt owns Mica and R-77 and owns the family R-27 and contracted with Sukhoi 35 on the missile R-37M
Turkey has 400 Aim-120 missiles and 1000 Sparrow missiles
Thus, the diversity of Egyptian capabilities is greater than Turkey and more effective
Let us clarify things from another form or the other hand
Turkey has anti-ship missiles
Harpoon missile as an example and in the future Atamca and SOM
Nice
In other hand we find Egypt possesses
Harpoon
Exocet
ATOMAT
SN-22 SUNBURN
KH-31
KH-59
C-705
CM-302
KH-38
Near Future CM-400AKG
This gives Egypt the ability to carry out air massacres against the Turkish navy if it considers approaching Egypt's economic zones
Egypt simply has the current and future supremacy over the Turks
The Turks are happy with the SOM, the actual stockpile of 100 missiles in the future and 500 missiles
Egypt's current stockpiles of APACHE missiles on Mirage 2000 and Scalp missiles on Rafale
And on the MiG 29M KH-59 and under negotiation and delivery CLUB-A
There are requests to add Scalp missiles
And missiles KH-58
Beside projects with South Africa and Pakistan for cruise missiles
On the ground, Egypt has the upper hand over the Turks in all fields
Egyptian Citation Sovereign ELINT/ISR
Turks always talk about the future and future purchases and future production, which are unreliable things.
Turkey is subject to sanctions and sanctions will increase until the regime collapses and Turkey's military capabilities are effectively restricted
Unlike talking about future production, we cannot believe it.
We have not talked about the efficiency of leaderships or the level of training.
Turks have real and huge problems in the field
Limited types of fighters in exchange for not having a full air defense of the Turkish territory, which led to their dependence on the limited fighters have
The Turkish Phantom is already out of service, although Turks deny it is in service
There is no AESA radar in Turkey. They are talking about future production. There is nothing. There is no dependence on a product under development.
Those who have fighters with AESA radars are Egypt and Israel only
The Turks say that in the future they will own and also Egypt will enter more of the radars already in service.
Egypt is negotiating an additional batch of Rafale 12 aircraft besides Egypt's Rafale with AESA radar since 2015
The capacity of Egyptian fighter jets represents an additional 50% in the delivery of ammunition for Turkish fighter aircraft as a result of the larger Egyptian air force
Egypt has not only fighter jets but also a wide variety of munitions, while Turkey has limited types of munitions mounted on thousands
For every Munitions Turkey has, Egypt has several Munitions in return, which is one of Turkey's real problems
Turkey, for example, has missiles Aim-120 Egypt owns Mica and R-77 and owns the family R-27 and contracted with Sukhoi 35 on the missile R-37M
Turkey has 400 Aim-120 missiles and 1000 Sparrow missiles
Thus, the diversity of Egyptian capabilities is greater than Turkey and more effective
Let us clarify things from another form or the other hand
Turkey has anti-ship missiles
Harpoon missile as an example and in the future Atamca and SOM
Nice
In other hand we find Egypt possesses
Harpoon
Exocet
ATOMAT
SN-22 SUNBURN
KH-31
KH-59
C-705
CM-302
KH-38
Near Future CM-400AKG
This gives Egypt the ability to carry out air massacres against the Turkish navy if it considers approaching Egypt's economic zones
Egypt simply has the current and future supremacy over the Turks
The Turks are happy with the SOM, the actual stockpile of 100 missiles in the future and 500 missiles
Egypt's current stockpiles of APACHE missiles on Mirage 2000 and Scalp missiles on Rafale
And on the MiG 29M KH-59 and under negotiation and delivery CLUB-A
There are requests to add Scalp missiles
And missiles KH-58
Beside projects with South Africa and Pakistan for cruise missiles
On the ground, Egypt has the upper hand over the Turks in all fields
Kingslayerr
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 16, 2019
- Messages
- 831
- Reaction score
- 2
- Country
- Location
50 jets for $2 billion. Is this deal really cheap or other jets are more expensive as india bought only 36 jets for something 8Billion. How can migs be so cheap
Philip the Arab
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Oct 26, 2018
- Messages
- 7,430
- Reaction score
- 6
- Country
- Location
Links?
Exactly what I thought. Especially as this is the first order and must include support facilities and training.
Kingslayerr
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 16, 2019
- Messages
- 831
- Reaction score
- 2
- Country
- Location
Egypt was the biggest military might in the 40s 50s and i saw them gettin a brutal beating by israel. Yes egypt have good hardware but do they know how to use it or will these jets also be destroyed on the ground without even taking off. This is a big ?
MMM-E
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2017
- Messages
- 12,720
- Reaction score
- -44
- Country
- Location
Another ignorant Arab daydreamer who can not develop even Anti Tank Missile
Facts vs Arab dreams
Weak and Poor Greece and Egypt are nothing , but so pathetic
-- Turkish Missiles TRG-300 , J600T , BORA , SOM , ATMACA , and 110km KGK , SDB smart Bombs and 2.000km KARGI Kamikaze Drones to destroy air defense systems , air bases , military and strategic targets in Greece , Greek Islands and Egypt
Turkey can produce thousands of its own Missiles , smart Bombs and Kamikaze Drones
on the other hand pathetic Greece and Egypt can produce nothing including air defense missiles
also Turkish Armed Forces have hundreds of ATACMS , HARM , SLAM-ER , POPEYE , JSOW , ESSM , HARPOON to wipe out Greek-Egyptian military targets
Egypt are dreaming about only 50 SCALP Missiles ,, so pathetic
Turkey produce more 415 SOM Cruise Missiles , also Turkey has 50 SLAM-ER Cruise Missiles
Turkey = 500 vs Egypt = 50
only Turkey,Iran and Israel can produce its own missiles ,,,, Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
-- Turkey has developed KORKUT SPAAG with 35mm air burst ammunition , HISAR Air Defense Systems to intercept Cruise Missiles such as SCALP , TOMAHAWK , HARPOON , etc
-- Turkish Navy 12 Frigates armed with 609 of SM-1MR and ESSM air defense missiles to intercept even supersonic anti ship missiles such as BRAHMOS , KH-31 ,etc
Pathetic Egyptian Navy has no ESSM
Egyptian FREMM Frigate armed with only 16x ASTER15 air defense missiles
Turkish GABYA Frigates armed with 36x SM-1MR and 32x ESSM air defense missiles
Turkish MEKO-200 Track-II Frigates armed with 64x ESSM air defense missiles
Turkish Navy has more air defense missiles than Egyptian+Greek Navies combined
only Turkey,Iran and Israel can produce its own air defense missiles ,,,, Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Turkish Armed Forces with 1.000+ anti ship missiles to wipe out Egyptian+Greek Navies combined
-- HARPOON
-- SOM
-- SLAM-ER
-- and ATMACA by 2020
Turkey has far more anti ship missiles than Egypt
only Turkey,Iran and Israel can produce its own anti ship missiles ,,,, Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Turkey bought superior S-400 Air Defense System to turn Egyptian Rafale Fighter Jets into crap of metal over the Eastern Mediterranean
also Turkish Navy 12 Frigates armed with 609 of SM-1MR and ESSM air defense missiles to turn Egyptian Fighter Jets into crap of metal over the Eastern Mediterranean
even Egyptian Airforce has no air refueling Tanker for large scale operation ... so pathetic
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Turkey is in top5 in the world for UAV-UCAV Technology
2.000km Turkish KARGI Kamikaze Drone for SEAD role
by 2020 Turkish AKINCI UCAV armed with even 280km SOM cruise missile for SEAD role
only Turkey,Iran and Israel can produce its own UCAVs ,,,, Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
keep dreaming with AESA Radar
Turkish KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems can jam and paralyze Egyptian Rafale Fighter Jet Radar from 200km away ... ( only Russia and Turkey )
also by 2023 Turkish Airborne stand off jammer ...
only Israel and Turkey can produce its own electronic warfare systems in the region ... Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
as of 2019 , Egyptian Rafale Fighter Jets armed with only 50-60km MICA air to air missiles
on the other hand Turkish F-16 Fighter Jets armed with 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles
also Turkish Airforce superior Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600+km MESA Radar can help Turkish F-16 Fighter Jets in BVR Combat
btw Turkey is in F-35 program as global partner to replace F-4s
even 47 of modernized F-4 TERMINATOR to carry SOM Cruise Missiles
Egypt are dreaming about 40km Russian air to ground attack missile
110 km Turkish KGK smart Bomb is already in service
also soon Turkish F-16s to carry 8 of 100km SDB smart Bombs to attack Air Defense Systems and Radars
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Egyptian Navy buys 4 Type209 class Submarines
on the other hand Turkish Navy has already 12 Type209 class Submarines
also 6 Type214 class AIP Submarines under construction for the Turkish Navy
btw only Turkey and Israel produced its own EW System , soft-kill and hard-kill protection Systems to protect Submarines from torpedo attacks
Egypt is nothing
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Last edited:
MMM-E
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2017
- Messages
- 12,720
- Reaction score
- -44
- Country
- Location
Keep dreaming dream is free
Turkey has enough power to protect its own interests in the Eastern Mediterranean , Cyprus , Syria,Iraq,Libya,Qatar,Somali,Balkans,Caucasia,etc
Turkey and Israel are only real military powers in the region who develops its own weapons
Egypt is so weak and pathetic in a real war ..... everybody will see it again
The Turkish Armed Forces with superior weapons over Egypt
-- S-400 Air Defense System
-- 120km AIM-120C7 air to air Missile
-- 110km KGK smart Bomb
-- 280/1.000km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- ESSM air defense Missile to intercept even supersonic anti ship missiles
-- 280 km SOM and SLAM-ER air launched cruise missiles (land attack/anti ship capabilities)
-- 220+ km ATMACA anti ship missile superior to HARPOON and EXOCET
-- Boeing E7-T AEWC with 600+km MESA Radar
-- 7 of Boeing KC-135R air refueling Tankers
-- AKINCI strategic UCAV to carry even 280km SOM Cruise Missile
-- 2.000 km KARGI Kamikaze Drone
-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems
-- 6 of CN235 and 6 of ATR-72 Anti Submarine Aircrafts
-- Submarine killer 4 of ADA class stealth Corvettes
-- 12 Type209 class hunter killer Submarines
-- also 6 of Type 214 class AIP Submarines are coming
-- GABYA and MEKO-200 Track-II Frigates
-- F-35A stealth Fighter Jet or Russian SU-35 , SU-57
-- HISAR Air Defense Systems by 2020-2021 to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets
-- Network centric warfare capability
even I am not talking about upcoming Turkish military projects such as
-- 800km GEZGIN land and naval based cruise Missile
-- KGK-LR long range stealth stand off weapon with IIR seeker
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MIUS stealth UCAV
-- HURJET and TF-X Fighter Jets
-- high energy LASER Weapon
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- ATAK-II heavy Attack Helicopter
-- RAMJET powered supersonic anti ship Missile
-- Hypersonic Electromagnetic Rail Gun
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- SOJ Airborne stand off jammer Aircraft
and many more
btw Turkey is getting better day by day with superior technology and weapons
Egyptian Navy is so pathetic to compare with the Turkish Navy
and Egyptian Airforce have no capability for large scale operation ... only Turkish and Israeli Airforces
Last edited:
Goku
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 13, 2019
- Messages
- 948
- Reaction score
- -1
- Country
- Location
I want to ask u one question?Turkey and Israel are only real military powers in the region who develops its own weapons
Egypt is so weak and pathetic in a real war ..... everybody will see it again
The Turkish Armed Forces with superior weapons over Egypt
-- S-400 Air Defense System
-- 120km AIM-120C7 air to air Missile
-- 110km KGK smart Bomb
-- 280/1.000km KHAN/BORA Ballistic Missiles
-- ESSM air defense Missile to intercept even supersonic anti ship missiles
-- 280 km SOM and SLAM-ER air launched cruise missiles (land attack/anti ship capabilities)
-- 220+ km ATMACA anti ship missile superior to HARPOON and EXOCET
-- Boeing E7-T AEWC with 600+km MESA Radar
-- 7 of Boeing KC-135R air refueling Tankers
-- AKINCI strategic UCAV to carry even 280km SOM Cruise Missile
-- 2.000 km KARGI Kamikaze Drone
-- KORAL and REDET Radar Electronic Warfare Systems
-- 6 of CN235 and 6 of ATR-72 Anti Submarine Aircrafts
-- Submarine killer 4 of ADA class stealth Corvettes
-- 12 Type209 class hunter killer Submarines
-- also 6 of Type 214 class AIP Submarines are coming
-- GABYA and MEKO-200 Track-II Frigates
-- F-35A stealth Fighter Jet or Russian SU-35 , SU-57
-- HISAR Air Defense Systems by 2020-2021 to intercept Cruise Missiles and Fighter Jets
even I am not talking about upcoming Turkish military projects such as
-- 800km GEZGIN land and naval based cruise Missile
-- KGK-LR long range stealth stand off weapon with IIR seeker
-- ISTIF class stealth Frigate
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- MIUS stealth UCAV
-- HURJET and TF-X Fighter Jets
-- high energy LASER Weapon
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- ATAK-II heavy Attack Helicopter
-- RAMJET powered supersonic anti ship Missile
-- Hypersonic Electromagnetic Rail Gun
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- SOJ Airborne stand off jammer Aircraft
and many more
btw Turkey is getting better day by day with superior technology and weapons
Egyptian Navy is so pathetic to compare with the Turkish Navy
and Egyptian Airforce have no capability for large scale operation ... only Turkish and Israeli Airforces
Did u byheart all the weapon system Turkey has or u have such paragraphs ready to paste???
Every reply of yours consists of extensive info about weapon systems. Fascinating indeed
MMM-E
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Jul 6, 2017
- Messages
- 12,720
- Reaction score
- -44
- Country
- Location
Turkish KARGI anti-radiation Drone
The drone itself is the main munition with high explosive warhead
This SEAD optimised loitering munition is designed to attack targets by self destructing into them
The KARGI Drone can either operate fully autonomously using its anti radar homing system or it can take a human-in-the-loop mode
The KARGI Drone to be designed to minimize its radar signature through stealth
This anti-radiation drone to target enemy air defense systems in a first line of attack from 1.000+ km away
KARGI will replace 100+ of Israeli HARPY in the Turkish Armed Forces
TEI has developed PG-50 Engine for the KARGI anti radiotion Drone
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
very funny , I am talking about Airborne stand off jammer similar to Israeli SEMA equipped with the EL/I-3001 suite for SIGINT
Turkish Airforce 4 Airborne SOJ will be produced for the purpose of detecting and jamming enemy communication systems and radars (air defense, early warning, etc.) from 400km away
only a few countries in the world such as the US , Israel , the UK , Russia , Turkey
Turkey has started integrate of ASELSAN Remote Electronic Support/Electronic Attack Systems into Bombardier Global 6000 type Aircrafts to be in service by 2023
The HAVA SOJ will be able to detect, identify , deceive and blind enemy communication systems and radar (air defense, early warning, etc )
The HAVA SOJ system which has superior technological features than the KORAL Land Based Remote Electronic Support/Electronic Attack (KARA SOJ) system will combine many electronic warfare capabilities on an aircraft. There is no other system with this quality known in the world
Egypt is nothing to compare with real military powers in the region Turkey and Israel ( btw Israel has disadvantage , because of small area and population )
The drone itself is the main munition with high explosive warhead
This SEAD optimised loitering munition is designed to attack targets by self destructing into them
The KARGI Drone can either operate fully autonomously using its anti radar homing system or it can take a human-in-the-loop mode
The KARGI Drone to be designed to minimize its radar signature through stealth
This anti-radiation drone to target enemy air defense systems in a first line of attack from 1.000+ km away
KARGI will replace 100+ of Israeli HARPY in the Turkish Armed Forces
TEI has developed PG-50 Engine for the KARGI anti radiotion Drone
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Egyptian Citation Sovereign ELINT/ISR
very funny , I am talking about Airborne stand off jammer similar to Israeli SEMA equipped with the EL/I-3001 suite for SIGINT
Turkish Airforce 4 Airborne SOJ will be produced for the purpose of detecting and jamming enemy communication systems and radars (air defense, early warning, etc.) from 400km away
only a few countries in the world such as the US , Israel , the UK , Russia , Turkey
Turkey has started integrate of ASELSAN Remote Electronic Support/Electronic Attack Systems into Bombardier Global 6000 type Aircrafts to be in service by 2023
The HAVA SOJ will be able to detect, identify , deceive and blind enemy communication systems and radar (air defense, early warning, etc )
The HAVA SOJ system which has superior technological features than the KORAL Land Based Remote Electronic Support/Electronic Attack (KARA SOJ) system will combine many electronic warfare capabilities on an aircraft. There is no other system with this quality known in the world
Egypt is nothing to compare with real military powers in the region Turkey and Israel ( btw Israel has disadvantage , because of small area and population )
Thanks to this poor Turk MMM-E who explains who is unreasonable and who does not understand
Let us let you know how things are, you are still a young child who needs care, education and discipline
I explained in advance that the Egyptian combat capability is more than 50% higher than the Turkish fighting capacity by having better equipment than Turkey owns and more efficient and varied than that of Turkey which depends on a single fighter. F-16
A little credibility I hope so that people can accept the sincerity of your words
You are talking on the harpoon missiles and SOM and ATAMACA
The Turkish stockpile of Harpoon missiles is 250 km
Egypt also seized 240 Harpoon missiles from the US, but there is a big difference between Egypt's Harpoon missiles and Turkey's.
Egypt since 1998 ordered the Harpoon missiles AGM-84 BLOCK II
It updated its stockpile of harpoon missiles by 2003 to the level of BLOCK II, while Turks lived Harpoon Block II
Other side turkey and dreams and did not fly or get to limited numbers of this model, even the main model of Turkey low-level performance
When you mentioned the possession of the Scalp missiles and the possession of Egypt 50 Missile stupid peerless from you and put a naive scenario, Turkey possesses 500 SOM missiles and this on the ground the service
When I mentioned one model, I also mentioned the Apache missile, the KH-59 missile and Russia several years ago. They carried out live tests of the KH-35 and CLUB-A missiles to urge Egypt to contract them
That is simply the actual stocks on the ground for Egypt
Of its series of missiles is greater than what Turkey is talking about
For example, illustrate symbolic numbers
I owned 240 Harpoon missiles
It had 200 Exocet missiles
130 OTOMAT Missile
100+ missile C-705
200 Kh-31 missiles
100 Kh-59 missiles
200 CM-302 missiles
Egypt received Bastion coastal missile batteries also
You are talking on the sub-Sonic ATAMCA missile, which does not exceed Exocet and Harpoon Performance.
C-705/KD Since 2011, Egyptian production is taking place while you are dreaming of producing your subsonic missile in 2020
Egypt also obtained the CM-302 missile production license in 2017
To replace Egypt's stock of missiles HY-2, HY-4
You as a Turk did not understand what I meant a
When you have one missile like a harpoon anti-ship only as a real missile in the Turkish arsenal and limited numbers of missile Penguin
It simply means your missile capabilities are limited and prone to the inefficiency of this only weapon you have while Egypt versus this missile puts 4-5 missiles in against Turkish navy can face this variety of missiles different performance and different direction and speed patterns of missiles under the sound and ultrasonic ignorance Turkish Navy is unable to Countering a different arsenal of hostile missiles, while the Egyptian navy's air force as a result of their well-functioning Harpoon missile capabilities can simply be overcome. You have a real problem. The story of Turkish missiles under development cannot be lost. In your hand a weapon and not in your hand the fantasies and naive dreams
Simply put, Egypt runs military production operations at the lowest cost and highest results, unlike the Turks who have already failed in the arms race.
Let's show a simple example
Egypt produced 1,200 Abrams tanks from 1992 to 2018
I got 540 tanks at a price of $ 1 billion
It obtained 650 tanks at a cost of about 3 billion dollars
That is, 4 billion dollars, including 150 million dollars of domestic production line
Turkey has spent $ 670 million to develop 170 M60 tanks
From South Korea, licenses for the production of 550 million dollars for the K2 tank and the acquisition of four tanks ready from South Korea and the cost of developing the engine 400 million dollars.
The number of tanks expected to produce Germany did not even agree to supply 250 engines to Turkey for the production of the first batch The cost of production of each tank 13 million euros
In return for the project of the Turkish tank Altay
Egypt has contracted with the Russians to produce 1000 T90MS tanks and a center for the maintenance and reconstruction of 90 tanks for the Arab and African countries.
And we develop local active protection system while
Against zero new Turkish tanks
Turkey how much was spent on the ANKA plane as a development program and how many of the aircraft developed 10 aircraft and 3 command and control centers at a cost of 296 million dollars
While Egypt got
10 WING LOONG aircraft priced at $ 1 million per aircraft
It has contracted and produced domestic WING LOONG 1-D aircraft for 64 million dollars
And got 10 aircraft CH-5 at a price of 55 million
Next to a new contract for WING LOONG II
China announced that it is negotiating with Egypt on the CH-7
Turkey is reeling
And we have produced a local series of small drones like LIPAN M3 & ASN-209, Yarara, cabure
Besides the manufacture of target drones and the conversion of numbers to reconnaissance aircraft operating turboprop engines and turbo jet Egypt has become a larger fleet of Turkey much of the domestic production and import at the same time
You will find that Egypt has created maximum cost-effectiveness
Top 100 from Turkey, which is essentially getting Israeli technology and reselling it to Arab and African countries by redesigning the Israeli weapon from the exterior
Simply put, Egypt is producing French Patroller with a local contract of 30 aircraft
At the same time, it is assembling 32
Wing loong I_d aircraft
Locally licensed by China with local development and European parts of the French plane to upgrade their efficiency
This makes Egypt meet its needs of the planes at a balanced and reasonable cost while the Turks with limited technology drone Kurds downed 70 aircraft during the two years of war with the Turkish army and in Libya was shot down and destroyed 23 Turkish drones other than the problems of Turkish aircraft Bayraktar Tactical, which as a result of Erdogan fixed relations The factory is being forced into the Turkish army despite a complaint
Turkey, its producer, has not had operational success to be flaunted at all
So we find that Egypt was able to establish a large store of drones as a result of international programs forklift, while the Turks with their local production has not been able to get their needs fully yet.
You were talking that Egypt could not develop even an anti-tank missile. Things do not pull this logic. Egypt was getting free weapons from the United States for $ 1.3 billion annually. Also, with the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, Egypt obtained tactical and strategic weapons from Russia and Ukraine in the 1990s. Armored tanks and tanks which made the Egyptian military arsenal of weapons is very huge
Consequently, there was no need to establish a military industry urgently
As the situation changed, Egypt moved to eastern and European armaments. Egypt began to develop its industry
There are cases worthy of study to clarify the reality of things and the actual capabilities of each state anti-tank missiles and drones where biting fancy, including the Turks themselves that they have industries and this reflected on their military capabilities and that their military industry reflected on the growing war capabilities for them, but on the ground things are different
Turkey is manufacturing a number of drones are new manufacturers
We see the ANKA project delayed 5 years from the original date and then Turkey is launching new projects and preparing on Israeli drones as a real capacity for them, but Egypt had other trends in the possession of huge quantities of drones from a number of sources and also build a local manufacturing base
You are naively speaking that Egypt cannot develop an anti-tank missile, and I have made it clear that Egypt was simply getting free weapons from America through 1.3 billion military aid besides arms surpluses from Western Europe.
And the accumulation of weapons stocks
Currently, with the change in the situation, Egypt has turned to the rapid local manufacturing
I got production licenses
HJ-12
HJ-8
KORNET-E
Egypt was producing Tow, Swing Fire and AT-3 missiles. At the time, Turkey did not produce any anti-tank missiles in the 1980s.
Egypt is currently developing a new anti-tank missile to replace the Tao missiles
The same is true in the field of warships
You simply invested a lot of financial resources in return for the effectiveness of a limited fact. You lost the battle before you always start.
Germany banned MTU engines and was unable to produce the Altai tank
If Israel blocks the body armor and parts of the BMC KIRPI, production will stop
You as a Turk cannot understand that the battle between Egypt and Turkey began with Egypt's designation of Turkey as a current enemy of Egypt in 2008 when Erdogan was expelled from Sharm El Sheikh and we were able to remove the Muslim Brotherhood from the Middle East and make Turkey accused of international terrorism and expose its sponsorship of ISIS.
We came to clear points Egypt was able to create an anti-Turkey collar that loves it and Egypt's relations and alliance with these countries
Greece Cyprus Syria Iraq Armenia
Egypt created the Middle East Gas Forum and Turkey was identified as an enemy of the Eastern Mediterranean countries and classified as a thief of gas and not accepted in the Forum and Egypt has become the focus of liquefaction and collection of gas in the Eastern Mediterranean, we have implemented what you dream of yourself, but for ourselves only
Even Turkey's attempt to steal Cypriot gas has placed it under European sanctions and France will also supply Greece with MdCN missiles with a range of 1000-1400 kilometers for the Greek submarines TYPE-214 and Belharra frigate francs.
Besides the protection of France and Italy of the Cypriot gas fields and the protection of the business of Eni and Total in Cyprus.
You are talking about Turkish Submarine and Turkish naval units
First, Turkey does not have qualified cadres for the war, including cadres command dives as a result of the massacres against the Turkish army officers, including the Navy
Turkey also does not own TYPE-214 submarines. It has been contracted since 2008 and has not been able to acquire one of them without creating illusions about weapons that do not exist.
The other point of Turkish dives is their actual ability to navigate and work efficiently with unqualified and untrained crews and what ammunition the UGH-84 will launch again.
Military Power
Consists of good armament capable of working at sea efficiently and not numbers on paper
Staff is qualified to operate and manage the weapon
Commanded in the field of military planning for battles
Qualified leaders to lead the navy
Political leadership, not a leader or ISIS leader
You miss almost everything and create an illusion and this is wonderful because they demanded this is the way of the Turks in thinking and war, naturally that his mother remains defeated and any war you will loss
nice
Without the naivety of Turkey, you have to understand as a limited mind that when Turkey gets a plane, Egypt will be in service before several planes.
You talk on a missile like SOM and forget that Egypt now Russian production lines are producing the first batch of SU-35 aircraft to Egypt, which will receive Egypt in 2020 the number of 10 aircraft along with a huge amount of ammunition
Egypt is negotiating the second batch of 50 MiG-35s to be acquired between 2020 and 2020
While Turkey has been expelled from the F-35 program and has no engine for her article dreams and cannot even ask the US to assemble a new batch of 16 thousand, Turkey will not get the EJT-2000 engine for the advanced training plane it dreams of producing, not even the TFX plane.
You always talk about the future and illusions will develop Turkey will produce Turkey These are not facts are not products Are you going to fight the Egyptian army paper and projects designs on paper Do you think Egyptians naive
Egypt is currently negotiating new early warning planes with Sweden Negotiating with Russia on transport planes and early warning planes and the second batch of MiG-35 and France on a new batch of Rafal and awaiting the delivery of SU-35 contracted while you are siege and all your military pawns are allowed by the Europeans Americans cannot serve within a single aircraft under Western sanctions against you
You think you will get something and Egypt will remain the same as Egypt is also developing its ability to terrify the Turks
You are a very strange Turkish. You have an army that has been defeated for 100 years and the Egyptian army was defeated in 1833 by an evil defeat
They won only through terrorism and ISIS against the Kurds
Egypt supports the Kurds all kinds of support politically and militarily and also exposes Turkey at the international level and Egypt against the Turkish war crimes in Syria.
Question: You have expelled 300 Turkish pilots from service and thousands of military officers after stripping the Turkish army and the scandal. Is an army that has been psychologically defeated and undressed? The MIG and SU-35 came to you because you are in the bank of enemies set by Egypt
Turks do not have the leadership competencies and do not possess the levels of training owned by the Egyptian army. Name BADR
Just last week
Training program with Russia for air defense systems
Training program with Jordan and Pakistan
Training program with Cyprus and Greece
We are satisfied with the fact that we have gone beyond time
We are ready for Turkey militarily and well
We were able to blockade Turkey with a ring of enemies, you are a country with friends only IS and Qatar
Russia is a friend of Turkey America Is it a friend of Turkey Who are friends Turkey mainly from the five major countries does not have
You country have no friend
Who will support Turkey in the face of the Egyptian army without anyone? You are a Turkish army that has no morals. Its most capable ability is to use the ISIS to threaten Europe or fight for Turkey
You cannot bring your Kurdish losses to the world, but the dead Turkish soldiers are buried in Syria so that the Turkish people do not know how big your losses are.
His name is this Egypt will not fight Turkey and will not prepare for the war in Turkey, you know why simply because Egypt has F-16 aircraft in Greece and KA-52 planes in Cyprus We besiege you and demand that Turkey be prosecuted for its war crimes at the United Nations and the lack of Kurds to maximize your loss and break the Turkish army through a drain in Syria and Iraq.
Last edited:
Baybars Han
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Dec 13, 2015
- Messages
- 1,654
- Reaction score
- 0
- Country
- Location
Did anyone understand what this moron said?
A simple ticket for Turks
In the past we broke the Turks and now we want to repeat them. The Turks should not give Egypt the chance to crush them
Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt
"Ibrahim attacks Messolonghi," a painting by Giuseppe Mazzola, depicts a battle between Ibrahim's forces and Greek rebels.
The Battle of Konya
On 21 November 1832, the Egyptian forces occupied the city of Konya in central Anatolia, within striking distance of the imperial capital of Constantinople. The Sultan organized a new army of 80,000 men under Reshid Mehmed Pasha, the Grand Vizier, in a last-ditch attempt to block Ibrahim's advance towards the capital. While Ibrahim commanded a force of 50,000 men, most of them were spread out along his supply lines from Cairo, and he had only 15,000 in Konya. Nevertheless, when the armies met on December 21, Ibrahim's forces won in a rout, capturing the Grand Vizier after he became lost in fog attempting to rally the collapsing left flank of his forces. The Egyptians suffered only 792 casualties, compared to the Ottoman army's 3,000 dead, and they captured 46 of the 100 guns with which the army had left Istanbul.The stunning victory at Konya would be the final and most impressive victory of the Egyptian campaign against the Sublime Porte, and would represent the high point of Muhammad Ali's power in the region
In the past we broke the Turks and now we want to repeat them. The Turks should not give Egypt the chance to crush them
Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt
"Ibrahim attacks Messolonghi," a painting by Giuseppe Mazzola, depicts a battle between Ibrahim's forces and Greek rebels.
The Battle of Konya
On 21 November 1832, the Egyptian forces occupied the city of Konya in central Anatolia, within striking distance of the imperial capital of Constantinople. The Sultan organized a new army of 80,000 men under Reshid Mehmed Pasha, the Grand Vizier, in a last-ditch attempt to block Ibrahim's advance towards the capital. While Ibrahim commanded a force of 50,000 men, most of them were spread out along his supply lines from Cairo, and he had only 15,000 in Konya. Nevertheless, when the armies met on December 21, Ibrahim's forces won in a rout, capturing the Grand Vizier after he became lost in fog attempting to rally the collapsing left flank of his forces. The Egyptians suffered only 792 casualties, compared to the Ottoman army's 3,000 dead, and they captured 46 of the 100 guns with which the army had left Istanbul.The stunning victory at Konya would be the final and most impressive victory of the Egyptian campaign against the Sublime Porte, and would represent the high point of Muhammad Ali's power in the region
Attachments
Hallian_Khan
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Sep 19, 2014
- Messages
- 743
- Reaction score
- -2
- Country
- Location
They were ur ancestors. U arabs dnt have balls anymore to stand against a tiny country like Israel.. N stop talking big n do what u people are doing these days n that is licking ur masters balls..
Similar threads
