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The IAF can't escape the PAF muhahahahah.

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The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers.

First Rafale Handed Over to Qatar

by Jon Lake
- February 13, 2019, 4:01 AM


VIPs from Qatar and France pose in front of the first Rafale to be handed over. The stylised Arab stallion graphic is the badge of the new Rafale squadron. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)
purchase of 24 Rafales (six of them two-seat trainers) in May 2015. A dozen more aircraft were added to the order in December 2017. Qatar’s Rafales differ in detail from those delivered to France and Egypt, and integration of the Lockheed Martin Sniper targeting pod and Elbit Systems TARGO-II helmet-mounted target designation system required extensive testing.


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Qatar's Rafales are being supplied with a range of advanced weaponry, along with the Sniper advanced targeting pod. (Photo: Dassault Aviation)


The first Rafale DQ for Qatar, a two-seater, made its first flight on June 28, 2016, while the single-seat Rafale EQ flew for the first time on March 27, 2017. The aircraft are being supplied with MBDA MICA IR, MICA EM, and Meteor air-to-air missiles and with MBDA SCALP-EG cruise missiles and a range of air-to-ground weapons, including laser- and GPS-guided Safran AASM (Armement Air-Sol Modulaire) Hammer missiles.

Qatari personnel will be trained at Base Aérienne 118 Mont-de-Marsan in southwestern France, Rochefort, and the Joint Intelligence Training Institute in Strasbourg. The first batch of pilots trained for Qatar in November 2017 were Pakistani exchange officers. Escadron de Chasse 04.030 was established at Mont-de-Marsan as the Qatar Rafale Squadron on Oct. 1, 2017. The Amir of Qatar, Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad al Thani, visited the Qatari Rafale Squadron at Mont-de-Marsan on July 6, 2018, accompanied by French defense minister Florence Parly.

Under the SOUTEX program the Armee de l’Air is training 250 personnel who will man the first Qatari Rafale squadron. This unit will initially be commanded by a French officer until later this year when command will be transferred to a Qatari officer before the unit transfers to Qatar in the summer of 2020.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2019-02-13/first-rafale-handed-over-qatar
So that means IAF and PAF pilots trained together as the first cadre of IAF pilots were there at the Esquadron that trains all air force, navy and exchange Rafale pilots.

I still think it is nonsense as the Qatar AF does not allow our fighter jocks on Mirage 2000s, hence the Rafale is out of the question. No PAF pilot has started nor completed a conversion course on the Rafale.
 
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I read somewhere but cant confirm that Pakistan pilots were involved in training on Saudi Typhoons too

No my child we r happy we get to get in one and actually already have before you and know it better than you do Sonny :)
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No PAF pilots were involved on the Saudi Typhoons, neither Eagles neither Tornados....

Closest so far now are F-16s recently at Bahrain.

So far Pakistani pilots have flown and familiarized themselves with most of India’s too fighters included a brief stint in the MKM(although that spectre has already been blown out of the sky.. literally).

It seems Pakistani familiarity with Indian aircraft is showing more than the F-16 obsession by India.
Once the JF-17 comes up, India will have to wait for Burma or Nigeria to give them an idea of what it can do.

So far there is no interest in PAF testing the Tejas, until they manage to build and fly more than 20 operational ones.


Configuration to what extent?
BS from Indians. The radar is the same, the EW practically the same, the interface will be the same and so on.
Sorry but the title is misleading as no PAF pilots have trained on Rafales for the Qatar AF.

Capabilities of our Air force personnel are something extraordinary and the credit goes to the ISSB and PAF training programs, that is also an answer regarding why we have such a higher rejection rate and thanks to Abhinandan and Modi the whole world saw it in a broad daylight.
this training and experience will also help our developing fighter industry.
It is the PAF Academy. One of the finest institutions (FIS included) within Pakistan.

Jammi i did not get it?

Did the French actually train Pakistani citizens who were Exchange pilots in Qatari Air Force?
PAF has no exchange combat pilots with Qatar AF. One senior retired PAF pilot is currently working there in the training wing, the rest have been sent on one-way deputation assignments as instructors on the primary and basic flying training roles.

No PAF fighter jocks have been on the Rafale in France. Now ground crew is another story.....
 
I want to see this plane in Pakistani colors. Its sexy. Its capable and in hands of PAF, will do wonders.

I read somewhere but cant confirm that Pakistan pilots were involved in training on Saudi Typhoons too.
Negative on the Typhoons training.

I agree. Very capable jet. Excellent weapons package combined with a reliable engine and aircraft performance. Avionics are superb as well.
 
No PAF pilots were involved on the Saudi Typhoons, neither Eagles neither Tornados....

Closest so far now are F-16s recently at Bahrain.


Sorry but the title is misleading as no PAF pilots have trained on Rafales for the Qatar AF.


It is the PAF Academy. One of the finest institutions (FIS included) within Pakistan.


PAF has no exchange combat pilots with Qatar AF. One senior retired PAF pilot is currently working there in the training wing, the rest have been sent on one-way deputation assignments as instructors on the primary and basic flying training roles.

No PAF fighter jocks have been on the Rafale in France. Now ground crew is another story.....
Knew one pilot there for the M2ks.. but was likely on the F-1 prior to it so it seemed they might have continued the program.
But, exchange pilot seemed odd: usually isn’t it retirees ending up taking the expat job?
 
I still think it is nonsense as the Qatar AF does not allow our fighter jocks on Mirage 2000s, hence the Rafale is out of the question. No PAF pilot has started nor completed a conversion course on the Rafale.
Just quoting a Middle East source from 2016:


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مقاتلات رافال الفرنسية
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الأحد، 27 نوفمبر 2016 01:30 م

كشفت تقارير إعلامية، عن إرسال حكومة قطر طيارين باكستانيين للتدريب على طائرات رافال الفرنسية، كان قد تم التعاقد مع باريس على شرائها مؤخراً.

وقالت التقارير، إن الحكومة القطرية كانت قد تعاقدت مع فرنسا على شراء 24 طائرة مقاتلة من طراز رافال، بقيمة 6.3 مليار يورو، فى مايو الماضى، وطالبت بعد ذلك برفع الصفقة إلى 36 طائرة، بقيمة 9.45 مليار يورو.

وكشفت التقارير، أن الحكومة القطرية لم ترسل طيارين قطريين للتدريب على طائرات الرافال، وإنما أوفدت طيارين باكستانيين إلى العاصمة الفرنسية باريس.
 
Well played Pakistan, well played.
Abb tou tum logon ko aadat hojani chahiey!

what does paf pilots have to do with this?
aein weein mashkari ki hai..

check kia hai race aur brake kaisay lagtay hain.. gear kitni tezi se change hotay hain.. charhai pe kitni tezi se jati hai, utrai pe brakes sahi kaam kartay hain ya jawab dejatay hain.. ghoomti kitni jaldi hai.. andar radio waghaira kaisa laga hua hai.. FM ki frequencies kahan se kahan tak hain..

Mashkari hai aur kuchh nahi..
 
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