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Should Pakistan Go for EMP burst Devices and Jamming technologies?

This is a generalized statement that anyone can make. Basically, easier said than done. And no one has done it.


GPS satellites are replaced every few years due to fuel expenditure. The replacement is always upgraded. What you are certain is irrelevant. What you can bring to the discussion in terms of evidence is not.

GPS Selective Availability - USCG Navigation Center

The US removed the degradation feature of the GPS satellites. But if our national security is threatened, we can instruct each satellite that when its orbit path is over so-and-so country -- do not transmit -- effectively turn off all GPS availability to that region. Except for US, of course.

This is a report in which The British have successfully replace GPS signal with a spoof signal..

Have a look my dear sir MoD boffins in Cornwall GPS-jamming trials ? The Register
 
if I am not wrong ELF and EMP or more precisely NNEMP (Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse) are same, if so then it is a very effective weapon and this technology is functional since 80s.
Zia's C-130 was also shot down by ELF (Electrical Low Frequency)
ref. please read John Coleman's book the ''Conspirators' Hierarchy - The Story of the Committee of 300''

here is the link of its pdf version

http://stopnwo.com/docs/Coleman_the_story_of_the_committee_of_300.pdf
 
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for your ease here is the extract of chapter that explain how zia's plan was shot down

Dr John Coleman is an author and analyst of world affairs. had worked as British Intelligence Officer for MI6

''... Kissinger also threatened the late Ali Bhutto, President of the sovereign
nation of Pakistan. Bhutto's "crime" was that he favored nuclear weapons for
his country. As a Moslem state, Pakistan felt threatened by continued Israeli
aggression in the Middle East. Bhutto was judicially murdered in 1979 by the
Council on Foreign Relations representative in the country General Zia
ul Haq.
In his planned ascent to power, ul Haq encouraged a frenzied mob to set fire
to the U.S. Embassy in Islamabad in an apparent attempt to show the CFR that he
was his own man and to secure more foreign aid and, it was later learned, to
murder Richard Helms. Several years later, ul Haq paid with his life for
interven-ing in the war raging in Afghanistan. His C-130 Hercules aircraft was
hit by an E.L.F. (electricallow frequency) shot shortly after it took off,
causing the aircraft to loop into the ground.
The Club of Rome, acting on Committee of 300 orders to eliminate General ul
Haq, had no compunction in sacrificing the lives of a number of U.S.
servicemen on board the flight, including a U.S. Army Defense Intelligence
Agency group headed by Brigadier General Herber Wassom. General ul Haq had been
warned by the Turkish Secret Service not to travel by plane, as he was targeted
for a mid-air bombing. With this in mind, ul Haq took the United States team
with him as "an insurance policy," as he commented to his inner circle
advisors.
In my 1989 work "Terror' in the Skies," I gave the following account of what
happened: "Shortly before ul Haq's C-130 took off from a Pakistan military
base, a suspicious looking truck was seen close to the hangar that had housed
the C-130. The control tower warned base security, but by the time action was
taken, the C-130 was already airborne and the truck had gone. A few minutes
later the plane began looping-the-loop until it hit the ground and exploded in
a ball of fire. There is no explanation for such behavior by the C-130, an
aircraft with a marvelously reliable record, and a joint Pakistani-United
States board of enquiry Found no pilot error or mechanical or structural
failure. Looping-the-loop is a recognized trade mark of an aircraft hit by E.L.
F. fire.
That the Soviet Union has been able to develop high-peak radio frequency
devices is known to the West through the work of Soviet scientists who work in
the Kurchatov Atomic Energy Institute's Intensive Relatavistic Electron Beam
Division. Two of its specialists were Y. A. Vinograov and A. A. Rukhadze. Both
scientists worked in the Lededev Physics Institute, which specializes in
electronic and X ray lasers.
After receiving this information, I searched for confirmation from other
sources and found that in England the International journal of Electronics had
published some material which ap-peared to confirm the information given to me
about the method chosen to shoot down General ul Haq's C-130. In addition, the
information was confirmed by two of my intelligence sources. I received some
useful information from a Soviet scientific paper on these subjects, published
in England under the title "Soviet Radio Electronics and Communications
Systems." There was no doubt in my mind that General ul Haq had been murdered.
The truck seen near the C-130 hanger undoubtedly carried a mobile E.L.F. device
of the type the Soviet Armed Forces are known to possess.
According to written testimony by Bhutto, smuggled out of the country while
he was in prison, Kissinger severely threatened him: "I will make a horrible
example if you continue with your nation-building policies." Bhutto had fallen
afoul of Kissinger and the Club of Rome by calling for a nuclear energy program
to bring Pakistan into a modern industrialized state which, in the eyes of the
Committee of 300, was a direct contravention of its orders delivered by
Kissinger to the Pakistani government. What Kissinger was doing when he
threatened Bhutto was not official U.S. policy, but the policy of the modernday
Illuminati.''
 
Technically if u detonate a nuclear missile over a place, it produces an EMP burst itself.

But that side effect is ridiculous coz the nuclear missile would destroy the equipment on impact thus eliminating the need for knocking it out.
 
BLAH BLAH much hyped ,.this has been copied from some article consequences as if in a nuke attack---and if pak has such a weapon they wouldn't have wasted their pennies on other military hardwares like missiles & even JF17----one such EMP is needed to FREEZE INDIA:D--is the technology compact ? can it be carried in a pocket or suitcase ? :D

Hi,

And it also states as such that the info is taken from that article---and it is not from a nuclear attack----.

And if you hadn't pi-ssed yourself off and tried to learn something---maybe taken a moment to go and do some search---you would find that there are options to protect aganist an emp burts---like the farady cages---newer buildings designed to withstand the emp busrt---.

EMP is a poor man's nuc device---. You don't need to get mad at me---it is what the papers and magazines and articles say---you want to vent some enrgy---point it to them.

Inphiltraitor:---

I didn't say anything of that kind---I am basing it on the assumtion of others of which I am not a part of---so---please don't jump on me.
 
yes for sure EMP gona be big weapon in next genaration wars so why not have this creadibility in our armed forces if u win a war without firing a bullet better go for that weapon which can freeze your enemy and EMP is that kind of weapon which freezez all enemy machines
 
Neighboring china has the capability of Blinding all spy satellites by shining high power laser beams at their cameras while they are passing above china...

This technology is by no means out of reach for Pakistan,and such a capability will seriously handicap an aggressor's military planning.

http://defensetech.org/2006/09/25/chinese-laser-vs-u-s-sats/
 
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Hi,

This post is about 12 years behind time----I wrote a few pieces about the issue a few years ago on this board and on pak def dot info---. One of the biggest concerns the u s had about pak was its possessing the EMP air burst device.

The U S believed that some pak students studying at UCLA in the 90's had taken charge of the design of the EMP device back to pakistan---. it was aceepted that pak already had these devices and could use them over indias technology intensive centers to take them out.

I don't remember if it was newsweek or times that had and article in 1999 or year 2000.

According to the above mentioned magazines the emp destroys the infra structure of the city and its communication. Here is a scenario according to them---and emp burst over a city---it will fry everything electric / electronic that is hooked up by a plug to and electrical outlet--even if it is on or off. Secondly---the surge will also destroy the items not hooked up---that is not plugged it---like your toaster---blender computer----your gas engine automobile motorcycles and similiar equipment----.

The voltage surge blast will travel through the existing electricity grid and through air. Buildings that are designed and protected on the basis of farady's cages will survive but nothing else. It is basically a clean weapons----only thing is that the after effects are horrendous and more deadly.

No electricity would bring a city to a dead stop---all the dead cars and motocycle and transportation stopped on their tracks would hinder any police and fire dept activity. Water pump motors would burn out---no food item being shipped in or out---toilets backed up---no drinking water----just in a flash---a major city would go back in time---to a stone age. Gangs and renegades will take over the city---crime will instantaneously take charge of the streets and buildings. Humanity will turn on each other with such a venegeance never seen in the living history of the current occupants.

The fear of losingtheir electronics based computer industry has been deemed the biggest fear and concern our neighbours had from our capability.




Wait, Pakistan has it since 1990s....you must be kidding me.

We still don't know of it's existance?

Please provide some more info as a proof.

thanks!
 
Wait, Pakistan has it since 1990s....you must be kidding me.

We still don't know of it's existance?

Please provide some more info as a proof.

thanks!

Hi,

I didn't say that we have it---the news week stated that some 10 or 12 years ago---they stated the the govt believes that some pak engr students at UCLA took charge of the design when going back home---according to that article---the u s was extremely positive that pak could totally disable some of the indian computer hub cities and make them worthless thus creating a major financial problem for the whole world---.

You can try and search for old articles---you may find some.
 
Hi,

Here you go people----and some of you indian kids---you may be smart---but this old dog has been around the block a few more times than you will ever. I am getting old ---but I am not done and out yet

Enjoy the article.

And some pakistanis save it for future reference. Thanks.


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E-Bombs And Terrorists: September 2001 Cover Story
In the blink of an eye, electromagnetic bombs could throw civilization back 200 years. And terrorists can build them for $400.

BY JIM WILSON
Lead illustration by Edwin Herder
Published in the September 2001 issue.


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The next Pearl Harbor will not announce itself with a searing flash of nuclear light or with the plaintive wails of those dying of Ebola or its genetically engineered twin. You will hear a sharp crack in the distance. By the time you mistakenly identify this sound as an innocent clap of thunder, the civilized world will have become unhinged. Fluorescent lights and television sets will glow eerily bright, despite being turned off. The aroma of ozone mixed with smoldering plastic will seep from outlet covers as electric wires arc and telephone lines melt. Your Palm Pilot and MP3 player will feel warm to the touch, their batteries overloaded. Your computer, and every bit of data on it, will be toast. And then you will notice that the world sounds different too. The background music of civilization, the whirl of internal-combustion engines, will have stopped. Save a few diesels, engines will never start again. You, however, will remain unharmed, as you find yourself thrust backward 200 years, to a time when electricity meant a lightning bolt fracturing the night sky. This is not a hypothetical, son-of-Y2K scenario. It is a realistic assessment of the damage the Pentagon believes could be inflicted by a new generation of weapons--E-bombs.

The first major test of an American electromagnetic bomb is scheduled for next year. Ultimately, the Army hopes to use E-bomb technology to explode artillery shells in midflight. The Navy wants to use the E-bomb's high-power microwave pulses to neutralize antiship missiles. And, the Air Force plans to equip its bombers, strike fighters, cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles with E-bomb capabilities. When fielded, these will be among the most technologically sophisticated weapons the U.S. military establishment has ever built.

There is, however, another part to the E-bomb story, one that military planners are reluctant to discuss. While American versions of these weapons are based on advanced technologies, terrorists could use a less expensive, low-tech approach to create the same destructive power. "Any nation with even a 1940s technology base could make them," says Carlo Kopp, an Australian-based expert on high-tech warfare. "The threat of E-bomb proliferation is very real." POPULAR MECHANICS estimates a basic weapon could be built for $400.



An Old Idea Made New
The theory behind the E-bomb was proposed in 1925 by physicist Arthur H. Compton--not to build weapons, but to study atoms. Compton demonstrated that firing a stream of highly energetic photons into atoms that have a low atomic number causes them to eject a stream of electrons. Physics students know this phenomenon as the Compton Effect. It became a key tool in unlocking the secrets of the atom.

Ironically, this nuclear research led to an unexpected demonstration of the power of the Compton Effect, and spawned a new type of weapon. In 1958, nuclear weapons designers ignited hydrogen bombs high over the Pacific Ocean. The detonations created bursts of gamma rays that, upon striking the oxygen and nitrogen in the atmosphere, released a tsunami of electrons that spread for hundreds of miles. Street lights were blown out in Hawaii and radio navigation was disrupted for 18 hours, as far away as Australia. The United States set out to learn how to "harden" electronics against this electromagnetic pulse (EMP) and develop EMP weapons.

America has remained at the forefront of EMP weapons development. Although much of this work is classified, it's believed that current efforts are based on using high-temperature superconductors to create intense magnetic fields. What worries terrorism experts is an idea the United States studied but discarded--the Flux Compression Generator (FCG).

A Poor Man's E-Bomb
An FCG is an astoundingly simple weapon. It consists of an explosives-packed tube placed inside a slightly larger copper coil, as shown below. The instant before the chemical explosive is detonated, the coil is energized by a bank of capacitors, creating a magnetic field. The explosive charge detonates from the rear forward. As the tube flares outward it touches the edge of the coil, thereby creating a moving short circuit. "The propagating short has the effect of compressing the magnetic field while reducing the inductance of the stator [coil]," says Kopp. "The result is that FCGs will produce a ramping current pulse, which breaks before the final disintegration of the device. Published results suggest ramp times of tens of hundreds of microseconds and peak currents of tens of millions of amps." The pulse that emerges makes a lightning bolt seem like a flashbulb by comparison.

An Air Force spokesman, who describes this effect as similar to a lightning strike, points out that electronics systems can be protected by placing them in metal enclosures called Faraday Cages that divert any impinging electromagnetic energy directly to the ground. Foreign military analysts say this reassuring explanation is incomplete.

The India Connection
The Indian military has studied FCG devices in detail because it fears that Pakistan, with which it has ongoing conflicts, might use E-bombs against the city of Bangalore, a sort of Indian Silicon Valley. An Indian Institute for Defense Studies and Analysis study of E-bombs points to two problems that have been largely overlooked by the West. The first is that very-high-frequency pulses, in the microwave range, can worm their way around vents in Faraday Cages. The second concern is known as the "late-time EMP effect," and may be the most worrisome aspect of FCG devices. It occurs in the 15 minutes after detonation. During this period, the EMP that surged through electrical systems creates localized magnetic fields. When these magnetic fields collapse, they cause electric surges to travel through the power and telecommunication infrastructure. This string-of-firecrackers effect means that terrorists would not have to drop their homemade E-bombs directly on the targets they wish to destroy. Heavily guarded sites, such as telephone switching centers and electronic funds-transfer exchanges, could be attacked through their electric and telecommunication connections.

Knock out electric power, computers and telecommunication and you've destroyed the foundation of modern society. In the age of Third World-sponsored terrorism, the E-bomb is the great equalizer.


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In the 1980s, the Air Force tested E-bombs that used cruise-missile delivery systems.
PHOTO BY AVIATION WEEK & AEROSPACE TECHNOLOGY


To ignite an E-bomb, a starter current energizes the stator coil, creating a magnetic field. The explosion (A) expands the tube, short-circuiting the coil and compressing the magnetic field forward (B). The pulse is emitted (C) at high frequencies that defeat protective devices like Faraday Cages.
ILLUSTRATIONS BY JOHN BATCHELOR
 
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Inphiltraitor:---

I didn't say anything of that kind---I am basing it on the assumtion of others of which I am not a part of---so---please don't jump on me.

I have no intention or habit of jumping on others, just was surprised.. if it were true.
 
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