7 Ways That Saudi Arabia Has Tried To Hurt Canada During Massive Feud So Far

[BATMAN]

Get down on earth and stop reading moronic low IQ anti-Arab propaganda which is abound on PDF.

Propaganda is always same off topic rhetoric and hateful remarks, which are here because moderators allow and the posters are tribals.

 

[Dalai Lama]

What were the Canadians thinking? Lol. I just don't understand these guys most of the time.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

What were the Canadians thinking? Lol. I just don't understand these guys most of the time.

Selective "human rights" outrage while not uttering a word when their non-Muslim/Western allies commit much greater crimes than supposedly arresting some "human rights activist". In other words a dissident.

If Canada was this deeply obsessed about "human rights", most Canadian citizens should pack their bags and return home to the UK and elsewhere and give the indigenous people of Canada their ancestral lands back. Their entire existence is based on theft, mass-killings and mass assimilation of the local people who never did them any harm before their arrival, which historically speaking, was rather recent.

They should **** off and start lecturing insignificant small states that have no political will or resources to reply back.

Canada is a historical nobody. When the ancestors of modern-day Saudi Arabians (Arabs) ruled half of the world 1400 years ago, most of the ancestors of modern-day Canadians were living in mud houses or tree huts on two tiny islands called Ireland and the British Isles. Let alone if we include ancient history or prehistory where they will have no legs to stand on in comparison.

Having said that, it's an overreaction but there is much more to it than just some tweet online.

 

[HttpError]

KSA has really played a masterstroke here. They are using Canada as a whipping boy, though who could have imagined they could have done it to a G7 and a NATO member ? KSA certainly has the backing of Trump, as their silence indicates this. Well, it proves if you have too much oil you can do anything.

 

[Cybernetics]

Canadian leadership under Trudeau and the liberal party is a mess. I don't think they have a clue about strategy, national interest, or long term vision. They are so preoccupied with their virtue signalling and political games that they don't even understand the international environment they are in. Their thinking is linear and 2 dimensional, perhaps even one dimensional.

I think they forgot that the only reason Canadian leadership has any spine to stand up to major global players is because they have the backing of the US. In this case, the US was waiting for an opportunity to reign in the leash for the next phase of the American sphere of influence. Canada is just being an "useful idiot".

 

[Saif al-Arab]

KSA has really played a masterstroke here. They are using Canada as a whipping boy, though who could have imagined they could have done it to a G7 and a NATO member ? KSA certainly has the backing of Trump, as their silence indicates this. Well, it proves if you have too much oil you can do anything.

KSA's geopolitical influence has little to do with oil. BTW, KSA is one of the richest countries when it comes to natural resources (gas, minerals etc.). In fact KSA could power the entire world with solar power.

https://www.greenprophet.com/2012/0...e-next-twenty-centuries/#sthash.ZyCDsSxw.dpuf

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/ksa-taps-the-sun-to-meet-a-third-of-its-energy-needs.310345/

KSA's influence in the Arab (basically the child of the ancestors of modern-day Saudi Arabian and predecessor states of KSA in what is modern-day KSA) and Muslim world is due to ancient historical, ancestral, religious, linguistic, cultural etc. influences that are firmly in place to this very day.

KSA is to the Arab world and large parts of the Muslim world as what the UK is to the "Anglo-Saxon world". Or what Spain is to the Spanish speaking Latin America.

That is why KSA, despite often being the complete opposite of the modern-day Western system of life and often being at odds with the same West, most likely never will be attacked by the West directly due to the repercussions of such a thing.

Most Arabs and Muslim dislike the House of Saud but their affinity for the land that is KSA, the people and the history, culture and connection to it (especially for Arabs) far outweighs this reality.

When your compatriots openly proclaim on PDF that they will protect Makkah and Madinah with their lives, this is not an allegiance to the current rulers in KSA, but due to the reasons that I stated above.

So while the oil and in general the wealth that KSA contains, certainly helped propel KSA economically (as did a key geographical location between the 3 main continents, key sea trade routes etc.), there is much more to this issue other than just oil.

If that was the case, Venezuela (which has more oil than KSA) would be the equivalent of KSA politically but it is not. Many other examples could be given. In fact most resource rich countries struggle, hence the Dutch disease syndrome that you can read about.

 

[xyxmt]

I fully support KSA and admire their stand the bold actions to safeguard their sovereignty.

I will support them when they do it against UK or France where they mostly go for Ayashi

 

[waz]

@waz

Bro, can you move this thread to the Arab section of the forum? It's not really fitting for this section.

I don't know what is going on and to me it looks like an overreaction from KSA but on the other hand Canada has no business lecturing other sovereign states online via Twitter using a condensing tone without knowing all the details or even if the reports given to them are accurate about the sister of Badawi.

There must be more to this story although I am against this entire case surrounding Badawi but on the other hand the government in KSA cannot tolerate a Swedish buffet when the region is as it is currently and if tolerating such dissidents, other more extreme ones would/will demand a similar treatment and then we will have a mess. Wait until further reforms have taken place (great reforms so far have taken place on almost every field in a very short time-span) before greater public dissent can be tolerated.

It is a slippery rope. Easy for Canada to lecture when their democratization progress is much older.

Speaking about this issue, how about KSA lecturing Canada about their bloody colonial history and the struggles of the Native Canadians whose people were killed/died due to migration of the forefathers of most Canadian citizens, almost entirely?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_peoples_in_Canada

Anyway this is quite strange as Saudi Arabian students in Canada and citizens have contributed positively and been law-abiding citizens (not a single case of terrorism) and those Canadians interacting with Saudi Arabians have mostly only positive things to say.

It's a shame that they will be uprooted (15.000 students) and held hostage by some "petty" dispute that began on Twitter. Welcome to 2018.


Anyway a positive thing here is that KSA is not afraid to go against a country as powerful (economically) as Canada and which has close relations with Western powers. So much for the empty propaganda I read on PDF (in particular) about KSA somehow not being able to speak against the West and act at the same time. Once again those lies are being destroyed but I am sure that the usual braindead suspects will try to find excuses.



"Begging"? Are you kidding or do you suffer from delusions of grandeur? Who is the actual "beggar" in this relationship if we are to be honest with all due respect?

Yes, KSA/Arab coalition asking a long-time ally that helped/bailed out Pakistan on numerous occasions for a symbolic number of soldiers (mountain troops mostly) is/was really alpha and omega, lol.

Get down on earth and stop reading moronic low IQ anti-Arab propaganda which is abound on PDF.

Did it bro, and do ignore the anti-Arab rants when you see them (tag me) as most Pakistanis have no such inclinations.

As for the topic, Justin you certainly are no Pierre Trudeau (his father) who was an excellent statesman. I also like Justin lol.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

Did it bro, and do ignore the anti-Arab rants when you see them (tag me) as most Pakistanis have no such inclinations.

As for the topic, Justin you certainly are no Pierre Trudeau (his father) who was an excellent statesman. I also like Justin lol.

Thanks. Nah bro, I stopped taking such drones seriously. They are better left "rambling" for themselves and believing their their own lies.

I have nothing against Canada (at all) or Canadians. In fact I am yet to visit the country and I have met maybe one or two Canadians in my life (that I knew were Canadians at least).

I don't follow or know too much about internal Canadian policies or foreign policy for that matter but I do know that it was a foolish thing by the Canadian government. If they had concerns they could have voiced those concerns directly and not via Twitter (foreign minister) and later the Canadian ambassador in KSA via Twitter (in Arabic also). Or talk about "immediate release" without knowing the ground realities. Quite childish and not what I would expect from a serious state to throw stones at a time when KSA is moving ahead on all fronts and engaging in promising reforms.

As I said it is easy for Canada to lecture about "democracy" when they are ahead on this road of development (forgetting their many skeletons in their closest) but it would be the equivalent of KSA telling most Canadians (from the UK and Ireland) to pack their backs and return home and give their land back to the rightful owners (Indigenous Canadians) and moreover via Twitter.

Anyway I do believe that KSA is overreacting here (to say the least) but at the same time I believe that this issue is bigger than just those two tweets. Anything else would make little sense.

Childish if you ask me and I feel sorry for the Saudi Arabian students in Canada caught in this mess and others (investors, dual citizens etc.). The whole Badawi saga, I have voiced my criticism of but it is what it is. No different in the likes of China, Russia etc. Or even dissidents in the West that cross the line which many conveniently tend to forget when it suits them.

It's a mess really and I did not expect such drastic reactions. IMO not needed to create "internet hostility" between Saudi Arabians and Canadians. What's next? A dispute with Cambodia or Bhutan?

BTW I believe that @Full Moon has studied in Canada and knows this country much more than me. I am not sure if he has commented.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

KSA doing its master’s bidding. This is actually Trump pulling the strings against Trudeau after their personal spat. They will look for any and all excuses to allow them to react.

Just like with Qatar, KSA is going to suffer a large PR defeat because of this.

Canada is a respectful and sovereign nation which has every and all rights to air their views, especially if puppets like KSA and India back Daddy Trump.

All conscientious Muslim countries should stand with Canada on this. They are 100% correct.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

KSA doing its master’s bidding. This is actually Trump pulling the strings against Trudeau after their personal spat. They will look for any and all excuses to allow them to react.

Just like with Qatar, KSA is going to suffer a large PR defeat because of this.

Canada is a respectful and sovereign nation which has every and all rights to air their views, especially if puppets like KSA and India back Daddy Trump.

All conscientious Muslim countries should stand with Canada on this. They are 100% correct.

Arab-obsessed troll (yet to a large degree Arabized and in fact openly claiming cultural, linguistic, religious and even ancestral affinity to Arabs openly on PDF). Go take your medicine.

Where does Trump fit into the picture and what "master"? Are you drunk? KSA is one of the most influential countries in the world and one of the most "independent" (whatever that means in 2018) Muslim and developing countries with one of the biggest influences. That is even seen regularly on Western media when the same Western media makes those "most influential countries" lists. That is undeniable regardless of whether you are a big fan of the House of Saud or current Saudi Arabian policies.

As far as I see, most of the world sided with KSA against the Al-Thani regime in Qatar and in return the Al-Thani regime started ordering more weapons than there are people in Qatar.

KSA has been widely applauded for its reforms across all fronts while Qatar (just FIFA 2022 alone) has been a PR disaster.

 

[Yaseen1]

at the end u.s will destroy saudi regime.saudis entered in trap of u.s and israel of isolating saudia.they are themselves isolating their country first by ending relations with qatar and now canada.russia and iran are beneficiary of this as they will replace saudi oil with their own to canada and qatar and uk amd europe also if saudis also end relations with them.trump is true russian agent

 

[Saif al-Arab]

A Canadian destroying the current Canadian government.

Former Canadian ambassador to KSA similarly critical.

5:22 minute into the video.

Moronic socialists. Like everywhere else.

at the end u.s will destroy saudi regime.saudis entered in trap of u.s and israel of isolating saudia.they are themselves isolating their country first by ending relations with qatar and now canada.russia and iran are beneficiary of this as they will replace saudi oil with their own to canada and qatar and uk amd europe also if saudis also end relations with them.trump is true russian agent

A genius analysis "made in PDF".

Whatever you are high on, please share it some day.

If KSA is "isolated", every single state in the world is. KSA-Canada bilateral trade was merely 3 billon USD last year. Canada is KSA's 20th largest trade partner. This dispute will eventually be solved as well. As will it with Qatar (a tiny state that should belong to KSA as in the past and which will eventually return).

Yes, KSA a country with the 3rd largest natural resource wealth on the planet (34,4 trillion USD (estimated as of 2016),

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_resource

with a economy (already G-20 Major economy member state) that is growing each year (non-oil sector booming) and with one of the youngest populations in the world and favorable demographics is going to collapse.

Collapsing is what the Iranian economy and the Turkish valuta is doing.

I suggest to skip the most potent fungus next time!

Listen to the lyrics carefully.

Throughout the millennia (since recorded history began) many desperate and failed entities tried to destroy Arabia and the Arab world but they all failed and were crushed in the end. Canada is a nobody on this list. It's not even a participant, lol.

 

[I.R.A]

It's nice to see Saudi Arab showing spine and exerting the power and influence it holds. Defining the limits and boundaries is essential, no matter the interests involved.

I guess Arab youth compared to past are better educated and skilled, the myth that they only rely on oil money would soon vanish. Their forces are headed in right direction to transform, its in their genes .... and having ignored them in their hour of need would come back haunt most of people. It's not intelligent to criticize them based on propaganda generated against them, which is mostly stereotyping. Pakistanis especially should drop their lenses of looking at everything religion, because they won't care much about having the same (I don't know if its true) religion in future.

 

[Jlaw]

Canadian big mouth now need allies to cool sowdi down.
My country is so fucking weak on the international stage.