Al-Khwarizmi: The Father of Algebra

[PakSword]

Might be possible.. but whoever invented it before kept the knowledge to himself..

Let me narrate you a true incident.. I was very good at maths.. specially geometry.. in grade 5 or 6 (don't remember exactly) I found the way to calculate the length of a line based on the angle and length of other two lines in a triangle..

I went to my school teacher and told him about that.. he laughed and said good that I had found it.. but bad that I was two thousand years late.. That was my last day of trying to spend more time thinking.. and led to my downward journey in this subject..

Sometimes... when a subject is confined to a geographical land, the knowledge usually erases with time.. because people do not normally share the knowledge..

Ayurvedic medicine had the same fate.. those people who mastered this science kept the knowledge within their families.. so that son after son after the father benefits from that financially.. hence the knowledge confined to the same family.. or at best to the town where they lived.. no good books written, if written, not marketed well..

Arabs not only worked on different subjects, but also shared the knowledge by writing detailed books.. and it is not only about algebra, the sharing of knowledge led to advanced algebra which was preserved in books.. Europeans used to come and attend Madarssas in Iraq and Syria.. and that is how the knowledge spread..

I am not here to start a D measuring contest, but we have to accept the facts that are generally accepted by a large population..

 

[Suriya]

Actually, Al Khwarizmi was a Tamil Hindu when he invented Algebra.. later converted to Muslim.

Ibn e Batuta, Ibn e Sina, AL Kindi etc.. all belong to India..

Apparently believing and acknowledging the Hindu and Indic achievements will hamper and damage
Nazaria-i-Pakistan . Original Sin .

@Kaptaan @war&peace @Areesh @Awan68

 

[my2cents]

Might be possible.. but whoever invented it before kept the knowledge to himself..

Let me narrate you a true incident.. I was very good at maths.. specially geometry.. in grade 5 or 6 (don't remember exactly) I found the way to calculate the length of a line based on the angle and length of other two lines in a triangle..

I went to my school teacher and told him about that.. he laughed and said good that I had found it.. but bad that I was two thousand years late.. That was my last day of trying to spend more time thinking.. and led to my downward journey in this subject..

Sometimes... when a subject is confined to a geographical land, the knowledge usually erases with time.. because people do not normally share the knowledge..

Ayurvedic medicine had the same fate.. those people who mastered this science kept the knowledge within their families.. so that son after son after the father benefits from that financially.. hence the knowledge confined to the same family.. or at best to the town where they lived.. no good books written, if written, not marketed well..

Arabs not only worked on different subjects, but also shared the knowledge by writing detailed books.. and it is not only about algebra, the sharing of knowledge led to advanced algebra which was preserved in books.. Europeans used to come and attend Madarssas in Iraq and Syria.. and that is how the knowledge spread..

I am not here to start a D measuring contest, but we have to accept the facts that are generally accepted by a large population..

Well for a long time for 1000 years people referred the numbers as Arabic numerals and only recently maybe 50 years ago they started referring them as Hindu-Arabic numerals. Brahmagupta wrote a book which survived to this day and Al-Khwarizmi who came later even wrote a treatise on hindu numerals. Thats how it spread to wider world.

 

[U-571]

Might be possible.. but whoever invented it before kept the knowledge to himself..

Let me narrate you a true incident.. I was very good at maths.. specially geometry.. in grade 5 or 6 (don't remember exactly) I found the way to calculate the length of a line based on the angle and length of other two lines in a triangle..

I went to my school teacher and told him about that.. he laughed and said good that I had found it.. but bad that I was two thousand years late.. That was my last day of trying to spend more time thinking.. and led to my downward journey in this subject..

Sometimes... when a subject is confined to a geographical land, the knowledge usually erases with time.. because people do not normally share the knowledge..

Ayurvedic medicine had the same fate.. those people who mastered this science kept the knowledge within their families.. so that son after son after the father benefits from that financially.. hence the knowledge confined to the same family.. or at best to the town where they lived.. no good books written, if written, not marketed well..

Arabs not only worked on different subjects, but also shared the knowledge by writing detailed books.. and it is not only about algebra, the sharing of knowledge led to advanced algebra which was preserved in books.. Europeans used to come and attend Madarssas in Iraq and Syria.. and that is how the knowledge spread..

I am not here to start a D measuring contest, but we have to accept the facts that are generally accepted by a large population..

that is correct, indians never cared for producing written records of what they did and making it a standard, the indic numbers only became famous due to arabs who wrote first book on hindu arabic numeral system.

 

[Suriya]

that is correct, indians never achieved producing written records of what they did and making it a standard, the indic numbers only became famous due to arabs who wrote first book on hindu arabic numeral system.

This is simply not true . The books and written records are all there that's why world is know acknowledging hindu and Buddsit , Jain indian mathematician and astronomers work thousands of years back .

E,g
Bakhshali manuscript

Much ado about nothing: ancient Indian text contains earliest zero symbol

https://www.theguardian.com/science...ent-indian-text-contains-earliest-zero-symbol


Arabs got all the credit cause the Europeans acknowledged that the source of knowledge and books they translated were work of Arab mathematicians but the Arabs didn't do the same for the knowledge they gained from India .

That's why Indian origin these ancient knowledge coming late into people attention but slowly and surely gaining acceptance in west and wide world as we see in the case of invention of zero .

 

[U-571]

This is simply not true . The books and written records are all there that's why world is know acknowledging hindu and Buddsit , Jain indian mathematician and astronomers work thousands of years back .

E,g
Bakhshali manuscript

Much ado about nothing: ancient Indian text contains earliest zero symbol

https://www.theguardian.com/science...ent-indian-text-contains-earliest-zero-symbol


Arabs got all the credit cause the Europeans acknowledged that the source of knowledge and books they translated were work of Arab mathematicians but the Arabs didn't do the same for the knowledge they gained from India .

That's why Indian origin these ancient knowledge coming late into people attention but slowly and surely gaining acceptance in west and wide world as we see in the case of invention of zero .

the arabs did acknowledge by refering it as 'hindu numeral system', it is the europeans who didnt credit indians for their achievement.

 

[PakSword]

Well for a long time for 1000 years people referred the numbers as Arabic numerals and only recently maybe 50 years ago they started referring them as Hindu-Arabic numerals. Brahmagupta wrote a book which survived to this day and Al-Khwarizmi who came later even wrote a treatise on hindu numerals. Thats how it spread to wider world.

This is what I am saying.. that you guys couldn't come out of the holy land.. and probably others were not welcomed in your holy land as well. On the other hand, Arabs spread from Europe to Indonesia..

Also, please take a note that it is not just inventing something.. advancing it to a different level is something to cheer about... and advancement only comes when you share he knowledge.. and many minds then ponder on it..

By the way, Arabs never take credit from Hindus.. but why Algebra is called Algebra? because Arabs took this subject to another level + preserved their research in the form of books, + spread the knowledge to different parts of the world regardless of religion, cast, creed and color..

 

[Jaanbaz]

LOL half Central Asian and half Rajput Mughal Aurangzeb .

Did Any Punjabi Muslim ever ruled in any part of regions in today's Pakistan forget outside Punjab ??

A Punjabi will still kick your dumbass babu ***.

 

[newb3e]

loo g rajput aur vedic ka roona shoro hogaya!!!

there is no ethnicity in Islam rajput Pakhton Punjabi sindhi Balochi arab turk etc etc etc MUSLIMS RULED YOUR ***** AND ENSLAVED YOU AND MADE YOU CLEAN THEIR SHIT!!!! THATS A FACT!

 

[Suriya]

loo g rajput aur vedic ka roona shoro hogaya!!!

there is no ethnicity in Islam rajput Pakhton Punjabi sindhi Balochi arab turk etc etc etc MUSLIMS RULED YOUR ***** AND ENSLAVED YOU AND MADE YOU CLEAN THEIR SHIT!!!! THATS A FACT!

LOL

Arab muslims call you Hindis and you know how they treat u.

Afghans call you Dal khor punjabis of hindu ancestry. .

Jama Masjhid head always came from central asia or iraq/iran


But , hey I would change my region become muslim and shout at the roof top that we Muslim ruled India. LOL

A Punjabi will still kick your dumbass babu ***.

Talking of kicks, who know better than you guys .
All invaders first kicked ur *** before they come further in to India . Thanks for taking all those kicks for us .

 

[newb3e]

LOL

Arab muslims call you Hindis and you know how they treat u.

Afghans call you Dal khor punjabis of hindu ancestry. .

Jama Masjhid head always came from central asia or iraq/iran


But , hey I would change my region become muslim and shout at the roof top that we Muslim ruled India. LOL


Talking of kicks, who know better than you guys .
All invaders first kicked ur *** before they come further in to India . Thanks for taking all those kicks for us .

i dont care what others call us all i care is i am a Muslim and i believe in Muslim Unity Ummah! ohh and hindus were and are freaking slaves! And your rajputi or aryan or whatever ugly black *** is scared of us Pakistanis!

 

[war&peace]

The Brahmagupta Theorem

11.8 Hero vs. Brahmagupta

MathFoundations125: Brahmagupta's formula and the Quadruple Quad Formula I

Bull's MegaCrap

 

[denel]

All, knowledge is knowledge; it knows no religion or false boundaries.

These claims who did what is useless when most people who are arguing here dont have any concept of what the theorems are about. This is normal when knowledge or aspiration to learn is supplanted by egos and narrow mindedness.

Mathematics is beautiful; hence anything related is beautiful.

 

[django]

India is the term used by Greeks for this landmass and they used it from at least 4th century B.C. They called Indians Indoi.
So there's nothing wrong with saying "Indian mathematician".

It's okay to make fun of Vedic revisionists, but don't be stupid.

Arabian mathematics took a lot from India, especially from the Kerala school of mathematics.
Now you'll tell me the state of Kerala was formed in 1956.
Oops. How dumb of me.

The term used was Hind or Sindhu region, and it referred to lands on or adjacent to the mighty Indus river (conterminous Pakistan), no one was talking about the forest of the Ganga or Tamil Nadu, stop BOOTLICKING our history for the sake of your own integrity man, next you will also be claiming the Ghandaran gift to the world that is the ZERO!!!

 

[KapitaanAli]

The term used was Hind or Sindhu region, and it referred to lands on or adjacent to the mighty Indus river (conterminous Pakistan), no one was talking about the forest of the Ganga or Tamil Nadu, stop BOOTLICKING our history for the sake of your own integrity man, next you will also be claiming the Ghandaran gift to the world that is the ZERO!!!

I've already dealt with your kind in post#23 quoted below. India referred to the whole landmass as will be clear from it.
Also, no, Persians used "Hind", Greeks used various forms of Ind, India, Indica.

Now some smart guy is gonna say "India" meant only the northern area.

Here's a passage by Pliny of 1st century. (Translated to English obviously). He's talking about Kerala and Tamil Naad, the southern most area. And yet, he says "if you wanna go to India".
(Sumerian records mention that they had trade relations with Kerala in 3000 B.C.)

To those who are bound for India, Ocelis (On the Red Sea) is the best place for embarkation. If the wind, called Hippalus (Southwest Monsoon), happens to be blowing it is possible to arrive in forty days at the nearest market in India, "Muziris" by name. This, however, is not a very desirable place for disembarkation, on account of the pirates which frequent its vicinity, where they occupy a place called Nitrias; nor, in fact, is it very rich in articles of merchandise. Besides, the road stead for shipping is a considerable distance from the shore, and the cargoes have to be conveyed in boats, either for loading or discharging. At the moment that I am writing these pages, the name of the king of this place is Caelobothras (Keralaputras). Another port, and a much more convenient one, is that which lies in the territory of the people called Neacyndi, Bacare (Puhar) by name. Here king Pandion (Pandya) used to reign, dwelling at a considerable distance from the market in the interior, at a city known as Modiera (Madurai). The district from which pepper is carried down to Barace in boats hollowed out of a single tree is known as Cottonara (Kuttanadu).