Why Pak Didn't Opted for J-10 Aircraft.

[Deino]

Do we really need yet another thread for this topic, for which we already have a thread and that all based on a fan-made video and some Wiki-data!???

 

[Sunny4pak]

@Deino

Dear, Kindly move to relevant thread as I couldn't find dedicated/relevant thread on the forum.

 

[313ghazi]

From what I recall rampant corruption by the Zardari regime cut off any ideas PAF had about aquiring J-10. Also I don't think they were that impressed with version A.

I still think we should consider something to replace our Mirages. They might be good aircraft but they are just so old.

 

[ARMalik]

Na nothing of that sort. Air Chief Marshal Shahid Latif is on record many times saying that J-10 had inherit faults due to which PAF decided to not go for it. Why would you buy something which has issues? Yes those issue might have been resolved later after many years but by then JF-17 was a run away success and hence there was no need for J-10 but a need for much more advance fighter jet in the class of 4.5 to 5 Gen.

 

[Kompromat]

Because we have F-16.

 

[Deino]

@Deino

Dear, Kindly move to relevant thread as I couldn't find dedicated/relevant thread on the forum.

The problem is, that I'm restricted to moderate only in the China section, Otherwise i would have done this already on my own:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sheikh-rasheed-confirms-hints-about-buying-j-10-jets.611174/page-16
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/j-10c-hypothetical-scenario.646669/


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[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Hi,

You are too smart to bring in " funds "---but I guess I have to get my daily surprise.

Where did the money come of 8 submarines---how about 4 type 054's---???

It came through a loan/line-of-credit. However, I hope you realize that the total value of the frigate and submarine deal combined is about 33% of that of 3 squadrons of Western fighters. It's easier to fund some things than others.

 

[Path-Finder]

I believe J10 can fulfil a role in PAF which will put less strain of the F16 fleet and act as a complementary aircraft to F16. J10 with GE F110 would be a dream but that will never happen so a AL-31F variant will make do.

Imagine acting as an escort to Mirage strike formation!

 

[HAIDER]

The J-10 (Jian 10 or Fighter 10) is China’s indigenously built multirole fighter aircraft developed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry. Chengdu Aircraft Industry is part of the China Aviation Industry Corporation I (AVIC I). In the West, the J-10 aircraft is known as the Vigorous Dragon.

It is estimated that up to 300 J-10 fighter aircraft will be manufactured. China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) includes the army, navy, air force and strategic rocket force

Pakistan Air Force has shown interest in the Jet back in 2006. However, as of 2012 PAF dropped J10 Option, instead shifted its focus on JF-17 Thunder Advancement & Upgrades.

J10 having three variants (i.e. J10A, J10B & J10C) Previous two variants production is taken by the latest variant.

J10 is considered to be a multirole Fighter Jet with A2A & A2G roles. With the stated speed of Mach 2.2 it has 11 hardpoints to house following weapons in different configurations;

Air-to-air missiles:

• PL-8
• PL-9
• PL-10
• PL-11
• PL-12
• PL-15

Air-to-surface missiles:

• PJ-9
• YJ-9K
• KD-88 ALCM

• Laser-guided bombs: (LT-2)
• Glide bombs: (LS-6, GB3, GB2A, GB3A)
• Satellite-guided bombs: (FT-1)
• Unguided bombs: 250 kg, 500 kg

Externally mounted avionics pods:

• Type Hongguang-I infra-red search and track pod
• BM/KG300G self-protection jamming pod
• KZ900 electronic reconnaissance pod
• Blue Sky navigation/attack pod
• FILAT (Forward-looking Infra-red Laser Attack Targeting) pod

The only engine on this plane working perfectly fine is Russian AL31 and Russian are not selling this engine to Pakistan through any contract or contact , direct or third party.
We discuss this many times. Non Chinese engine available for this plane right now, only few testing platforms.

P.S ..don't watch youtube videos too much.

 

[Sunny4pak]

The problem is, that I'm restricted to moderate only in the China section, Otherwise i would have done this already on my own:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/sheikh-rasheed-confirms-hints-about-buying-j-10-jets.611174/page-16
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/j-10c-hypothetical-scenario.646669/


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Dear All,
consider my apology on creating a new thread, I would request Mods to please shift this to appropriate threads mentioned above by @Deino

Regards,

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

You are too smart to bring in " funds "---but I guess I have to get my daily surprise.

Where did the money come of 8 submarines---how about 4 type 054's---???

If we have funds than we should order 4 Type 052Ds with Long Range SAMs
@Bilal Khan (Quwa)

 

[nomi007]

Just useless topic
JF-17 is almost equivalent to J-10B/C

 

[LKJ86]

Non Chinese engine available for this plane right now, only few testing platforms.

You need to update your information.

 

[HAIDER]

You need to update your information.

You know it well, nothing like AL31. One of the best engine in the world. Expensive but best. Can be re modified for TVC.

 

[LKJ86]

You know it well, nothing like AL31. One of the best engine in the world. Expensive but best. Can be re modified for TVC.

PLAAF would strongly oppose what you said.