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It is observed that almost 95% Sylhetis maintain a distance from Bengalis despite being Muslims in faith. In this forum also you will find mindset of Sylhetis are distinctly separate from other Bangladeshis.

Even wikipedia says it.

Sylhetis today maintain a distinct identity separate from or in addition to having a Bengali identity, due to linguistic differences, geographical uniqueness and historical reasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylhetis
 
Sylhet was given from Assam during Partition, right? I don't think it was part of Bengal province pre 1947.
 
Wow so all the Sylhetis here aren't ethnic Bengalis but a different group entirely?
 
So Sylhetis not Bangalis??????????? News for me !!!!!!!!!!
What is the story here can you please explain . @Atlas , @Nilgiri , @Al-Ansar
They are indeed Bengalis , but not origin of East Bengal , but Assam . During partition in 1947 Muslim majority Sylhet was voted to join Pakistan instead of India , hence they became part of East Bengal ( later east Pakistan ). And There were few more neighbouring areas too were Muslim predominant like karim ganj who also voted for joining Pakistan , but deprived by British.
However I fully disagree with the thread . I know some of them , but they are good peoples . Just they feel superiority complex a bit , and consider that they are better and more civilized than rest of Bangladeshis .
But they are definitely Bengali peoples .
PS: This poster has a reputation of creating flame , so relying on his source is a faulty thing to do @ All

Because they be 'real Muslims'.
You are kidding right ?
 
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the question should be the other way around...
why do bengalis find it difficult to mix with sylhetis? along with noakhaillas, kummilas etc...
the simple answer is that regular average bengali from any other parts of bengal have had some bad experience mingling with people from these three regions....

but forget that, if you take into account the question carefully.... sylhetis are no different than bengalis... race wise... they're indo aryans and so are bengalis, however bengalis have also mixed with many other sub races natively... there has been too much mixing to claim they're an ethnic group unique in identity... there identity has been molded into a bengali one... albeit with some unique quirks of its own
 
the question should be the other way around...
why do bengalis find it difficult to mix with sylhetis? along with noakhaillas, kummilas etc...
the simple answer is that regular average bengali from any other parts of bengal have had some bad experience mingling with people from these three regions....

but forget that, if you take into account the question carefully.... sylhetis are no different than bengalis... race wise... they're indo aryans and so are bengalis, however bengalis have also mixed with many other sub races natively... there has been too much mixing to claim they're an ethnic group unique in identity... there identity has been molded into a bengali one... albeit with some unique quirks of its own

I dont think it has much to do with mixing with each other, it's more to do with the differences such as cooking style and general outlook on the world & life.. Many Sylhetis are also interrelated, my maternal side is from a place called Shaharpara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaharpara. We still practice marrying in the family, which there is a lack of Dhakaya communities. We feel confused and puzzled when we see you guys cook lol..

Infact I could go to the North of England or South and fine relatives whom I was not aware was of any relation... It's that simple.
 
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Not ethnic Bengalis at all. They are what can be called 'Converts'. They also rarely marry with Bengalis. Sylhetis are Assamese origin people.

@ What I think, originally many of the Sylhetis came from Turkey ? This we get from the writings of Ibne Betuta. What Betuta said that once he was on his way to Tibet via greater Sylhet through ship on Surma river, he was surprised to see the Sylhet area, as if he was in a province of some Turkish Empire. The dresses of the local people their language, their homes even their food habit were different then Bengal and resembles with Turkey ?
 
Sylhet is the twin city of Konya, the Capital of the Selchuk Empire and the seat of the Dergah/Mazar of Mevlana Jelaleddin Rumi....

Horsan Erens
(Horasan Saints, e.g., Mevlana) built the foundations of the Islamic civilization in Anatolia, which gave rise to the Selchuk and Ottoman Empires....

The Prophet (PBUH) was given 3 choices for Hizret - Yatrib, Sham (Damuscus) and Konya.....
 
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Sylhet is the twin city of Konya, the Capital of the Selchuk Empire and the seat of the Dergah/Mazar of Mevlana Jelaleddin Rumi....

Horsan Erens
(Horasan Saints, e.g., Mevlana) built the foundations of the Islamic civilization in Anatolia, which gave rise to the Selchuk and Ottoman Empires....

The Prophet (PBUH) was give 3 choices for Hizret - Yatrib, Sham (Damuscus) and Konya.....


You seem to be right.

Shahjalal came from Konya. Sultan of Bengal Firoz Shah conquered Hindu land Sylhet from King Gour Govinda in 1303. Since then it gratually became an Islamic holy land of India , later Pakistan and eventually became part of Bangladesh.

Conquest of Sylhet

Main article: Conquest of Sylhet

In 1303 the Sultan of Bengal, Shamsuddin Firoz Shah was engaged in a war with the neighbouring kingdom of Sylhet, then under the rule of the Hindu king Gour Govinda. This war began when Burhanuddin, a Muslim living in Sylhet sacrificed a cow for his newborn son's Aqiqah or celebration of birth.[6] According to tradition, Govinda learned of this sacrifice when a piece of beef from the cow was picked up by a bird which was then dropped on the King's personal temple. Govinda, in a fury for what he saw as sacrilege, had the newborn killed as well as having Burhanuddin's right hand cut off.[7]

When word of this reached Firoz Shah, an army commanded by his nephew Sikander Khan was sent against Gour Govinda. Two successive strikes were attempted, both ending in failure due to the Bengali armies inexperience in the foreign terrain as well as Govinda's superior military strategy.[8][9]

A third attack, now under the additional leadership of Firoz Shah's Sipah Salar (Commander-in-Chief) Syed Nasiruddin was undertaken, a force which was joined by Shah Jalal and his companions who at this point numbered 360.[10] Shah Jalal, who had immediately prior to this been a guest of the Sufi saint Nizamuddin Auliya in Delhi, may have been summoned by Firoz Shah for aid after the initial failed attacks against Gour Govinda. Alternatively he may already have been present in Sylhet, fighting against the Hindu king independently prior to being approached by the Sultan.[10][11]

The army was then guided through Sylhet by Burhanuddin, ultimately arriving at the banks of the Barak River. Here the third battle was fought between Gour Govinda and the combined armies of Shah Jalal and Syed Nasiruddin, with the latter forces ultimately claiming victory. Govinda was forced to retreat and Sylhet was brought under Muslim control. According to tradition, Shah Jalal at this point compared the soil in Sylhet with that which was previously given to him by his uncle, finding them to be identical. In any case, following the battle he, along with his followers permanently settled in Sylhet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jalal
 
You seem to be right.

Shahjalal came from Konya. Sultan of Bengal Firoz Shah conquered Hindu land Sylhet from King Gour Govinda in 1303. Since then it gratually became an Islamic holy land of India , later Pakistan and eventually became part of Bangladesh.

Conquest of Sylhet

Main article: Conquest of Sylhet

In 1303 the Sultan of Bengal, Shamsuddin Firoz Shah was engaged in a war with the neighbouring kingdom of Sylhet, then under the rule of the Hindu king Gour Govinda. This war began when Burhanuddin, a Muslim living in Sylhet sacrificed a cow for his newborn son's Aqiqah or celebration of birth.[6] According to tradition, Govinda learned of this sacrifice when a piece of beef from the cow was picked up by a bird which was then dropped on the King's personal temple. Govinda, in a fury for what he saw as sacrilege, had the newborn killed as well as having Burhanuddin's right hand cut off.[7]

When word of this reached Firoz Shah, an army commanded by his nephew Sikander Khan was sent against Gour Govinda. Two successive strikes were attempted, both ending in failure due to the Bengali armies inexperience in the foreign terrain as well as Govinda's superior military strategy.[8][9]

A third attack, now under the additional leadership of Firoz Shah's Sipah Salar (Commander-in-Chief) Syed Nasiruddin was undertaken, a force which was joined by Shah Jalal and his companions who at this point numbered 360.[10] Shah Jalal, who had immediately prior to this been a guest of the Sufi saint Nizamuddin Auliya in Delhi, may have been summoned by Firoz Shah for aid after the initial failed attacks against Gour Govinda. Alternatively he may already have been present in Sylhet, fighting against the Hindu king independently prior to being approached by the Sultan.[10][11]

The army was then guided through Sylhet by Burhanuddin, ultimately arriving at the banks of the Barak River. Here the third battle was fought between Gour Govinda and the combined armies of Shah Jalal and Syed Nasiruddin, with the latter forces ultimately claiming victory. Govinda was forced to retreat and Sylhet was brought under Muslim control. According to tradition, Shah Jalal at this point compared the soil in Sylhet with that which was previously given to him by his uncle, finding them to be identical. In any case, following the battle he, along with his followers permanently settled in Sylhet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shah_Jalal
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