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Type 69 Mk. II G Main Battle Tank

As far as I know BD has a total of 450 tanks but not all of them are type 69.There are type 59 tanks which are also undergoing upgrades.When completed those can be compared with Al Zarar.Army is considering upgrades of old tanks over procurement of new tanks.
T 54/55 tanks are being converted to self propelled howeitzers by the army engineers.:cheers:

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The Al-Zarrar is no where near the T-69 Mk.II G, whatever you might say.

The T-69 Mk.II G is armed with a license built version of the M256 120mm smoothbore main gun, the gun on the T-69 Mk.II G is comparable to the guns on the M1A2 Abrams, Leopard-2 and Merkava-4 (which are the best MBTs in the world. The 125m gun on the Al-Zarrar and Al-Khalid by contrast is a lackluster system. The 125mm has superior range but the 120mm features greater accuracy and more powerful munitions. options

The principal difference between the Al Zarrar and the Bangladeshi T-69 Mk.II G are as follows:

* 120mm smoothbore main gun with FCS and automatic loader with ability to fire all NATO standard projectiles including specially modified Ukranian 120mm Reflek's ATGMs.
* 1,200 hp engine replacing the original 730hp engine standard of Bangladesh Army tanks.
* Front and side skirt ERA protection.
* Armour slab on glacis.

The Bangladesh Army's Type 69 Mk. II G MBT is the most powerful Type 69/Type 59 upgrade ever carried out. If you want to compare then let us start with the main armament. The Pakistani Al Zarrar MBT is equipped with a 125mm Russian smoothebore main gun that also equips the T-72 , which were made target practise by allied forces during the Gulf war, while the Bangladeshi Type 69 Mk. II G MBT is armed with a Chinese copy of the M256/L44 120mm smoothebore that is carried on the Leopard II, M1A2 and Merkava IV MBTs (the best MBTs in the world today). The Bangladeshi tank can also fire ATGMs unlike the Al Zarrar.

Then you have the armoured protection. The Al-Zarrar lacks frontal armour protection for its hull, where as the Bangladeshi tank has got ERA slabs all throughout the front hull and surrounds of the turret. ERA is said to be optional for the Al-Zarrar.

The Al-Zarrar is also underpowered compared to the Type 69 Mk. II G MBT. The Bangladeshi tank is equipped with a 1,200hp engine, while the Al-Zarrar only has a 730hp engine. The 730hp engines used to equip the older Bangladeshi Type-69/59 MBTs.

The only thing that the T-69 Mk.II G has in common with the Al-Zarrar is the night time operations systems (night time driving and fighting systems). Otherwise everything else is superior.

The Type 69 Mk. II G should be confidently able to defeat all T-72, T-69, T-59, T-55/54 MBTs due to these reasons.

There are quite a few valid reasons why we decided to standardize the 120mm NATO standard smoothbore guns.

1. Superiority of 120mm smoothbore over Communist 125mm counterparts.
2. Denial of ammunition stockpiles to the enemy during war.
3. Compatibility with NATO/Western forces.

There were many rumours that Bangladesh Army would procure Pakistani built Al Zarrar upgrade kits for all T-59/69/79 MBTs. It is a fact that Pakistan aggressively marketed this tank to Bangladesh but the Army was probably not impressed with the tank and conditions put forward by the Pakistanis. They want $1.6 million (USD) for each Al-Zarrar MBT, meaning almost $600 million! Also Pakistan is viewed as an unstable country thus supply of spare parts might be a problem and the fact is Pakistan has to import most of the sophisticated components from overseas to build their tanks. These components are coming from China so why should the Bangladesh Army act foolishly by paying extra to the middle man when it can directly purchase the upgrade kits from the Chinese? Chinese technical teams provided support to their Bangladeshi counterparts and they jointly upgraded the tanks locally in a facility that is fully capable of building tanks and special military vehicles.

The Bangladesh Army also acquired license to manufacture MANPADS, rifles, artillery shells and other military equipment from China to decrease reliance on foreign countries. Currently the military is broadening its suppliers and acquiring more advanced military technologies from strategic partners such as Turkey who are offering a whole new gateway of modernization for our armed forces. Turkey will be the second largest defence supplier to Bangladesh soon after China as it is selling all kinds of modern military hardware to Bangladesh that other countries cannot sell or match in terms of quality, price and condition.

The Bangladesh Army's Type 69 Mk. II G MBTs are expected to fight mainly against Indian and Myanmarese T-72 MBTs. India has domestically manufactured T-72s, while Myanmar imported some 139 basic T-72S from somewhere.

Bangladeshi Type 69 Mk. II G: 120mm smoothbore main gun, 12.7mm HMG, 2 x 7.62mm GPMG, 6 x Smoke grenade launchers, 1,200 hp engine, ERA, FCS, LRF, BC, FSS, digital communications, GPS etc. Compared to the Bangladeshi upgraded tank the Al Zarrar's main downside is less powerful engine, inferior armament and armor and lack of crew comfort.

Unfortunately Bangladesh cannot export these tanks not because China will not allow them but because we need these tanks until every last one is replaced by Yatagan MBTs.

thank you sir, a very informative post...:cheers:
 
T-69 what ever you say belongs to dinousars era !!! just like T-59, al-zarrar and the rest. cosmatic make-up of any kind on these obsolete machines in my opinion is waste of time and money !!!
 
T-69 what ever you say belongs to dinousars era !!! just like T-59, al-zarrar and the rest. cosmatic make-up of any kind on these obsolete machines in my opinion is waste of time and money !!!

its not T-69 dude, its T-69 Mk. II G, the upgraded version of T-69.

And before you join the debate I think you should read the following posted before by khaled_m_ali:



The Al-Zarrar is no where near the T-69 Mk.II G, whatever you might say.
The T-69 Mk.II G is armed with a license built version of the M256 120mm smoothbore main gun, the gun on the T-69 Mk.II G is comparable to the guns on the M1A2 Abrams, Leopard-2 and Merkava-4 (which are the best MBTs in the world. The 125m gun on the Al-Zarrar and Al-Khalid by contrast is a lackluster system. The 125mm has superior range but the 120mm features greater accuracy and more powerful munitions. options

The principal difference between the Al Zarrar and the Bangladeshi T-69 Mk.II G are as follows:

* 120mm smoothbore main gun with FCS and automatic loader with ability to fire all NATO standard projectiles including specially modified Ukranian 120mm Reflek's ATGMs.
* 1,200 hp engine replacing the original 730hp engine standard of Bangladesh Army tanks.
* Front and side skirt ERA protection.
* Armour slab on glacis.

The Bangladesh Army's Type 69 Mk. II G MBT is the most powerful Type 69/Type 59 upgrade ever carried out. If you want to compare then let us start with the main armament. The Pakistani Al Zarrar MBT is equipped with a 125mm Russian smoothebore main gun that also equips the T-72 , which were made target practise by allied forces during the Gulf war, while the Bangladeshi Type 69 Mk. II G MBT is armed with a Chinese copy of the M256/L44 120mm smoothebore that is carried on the Leopard II, M1A2 and Merkava IV MBTs (the best MBTs in the world today). The Bangladeshi tank can also fire ATGMs unlike the Al Zarrar.

Then you have the armoured protection. The Al-Zarrar lacks frontal armour protection for its hull, where as the Bangladeshi tank has got ERA slabs all throughout the front hull and surrounds of the turret. ERA is said to be optional for the Al-Zarrar.

The Al-Zarrar is also underpowered compared to the Type 69 Mk. II G MBT. The Bangladeshi tank is equipped with a 1,200hp engine, while the Al-Zarrar only has a 730hp engine. The 730hp engines used to equip the older Bangladeshi Type-69/59 MBTs.

The only thing that the T-69 Mk.II G has in common with the Al-Zarrar is the night time operations systems (night time driving and fighting systems). Otherwise everything else is superior.

The Type 69 Mk. II G should be confidently able to defeat all T-72, T-69, T-59, T-55/54 MBTs due to these reasons.

There are quite a few valid reasons why we decided to standardize the 120mm NATO standard smoothbore guns.

1. Superiority of 120mm smoothbore over Communist 125mm counterparts.
2. Denial of ammunition stockpiles to the enemy during war.
3. Compatibility with NATO/Western forces.

There were many rumours that Bangladesh Army would procure Pakistani built Al Zarrar upgrade kits for all T-59/69/79 MBTs. It is a fact that Pakistan aggressively marketed this tank to Bangladesh but the Army was probably not impressed with the tank and conditions put forward by the Pakistanis. They want $1.6 million (USD) for each Al-Zarrar MBT, meaning almost $600 million! Also Pakistan is viewed as an unstable country thus supply of spare parts might be a problem and the fact is Pakistan has to import most of the sophisticated components from overseas to build their tanks. These components are coming from China so why should the Bangladesh Army act foolishly by paying extra to the middle man when it can directly purchase the upgrade kits from the Chinese? Chinese technical teams provided support to their Bangladeshi counterparts and they jointly upgraded the tanks locally in a facility that is fully capable of building tanks and special military vehicles.

The Bangladesh Army also acquired license to manufacture MANPADS, rifles, artillery shells and other military equipment from China to decrease reliance on foreign countries. Currently the military is broadening its suppliers and acquiring more advanced military technologies from strategic partners such as Turkey who are offering a whole new gateway of modernization for our armed forces. Turkey will be the second largest defence supplier to Bangladesh soon after China as it is selling all kinds of modern military hardware to Bangladesh that other countries cannot sell or match in terms of quality, price and condition.

The Bangladesh Army's Type 69 Mk. II G MBTs are expected to fight mainly against Indian and Myanmarese T-72 MBTs. India has domestically manufactured T-72s, while Myanmar imported some 139 basic T-72S from somewhere.

Bangladeshi Type 69 Mk. II G: 120mm smoothbore main gun, 12.7mm HMG, 2 x 7.62mm GPMG, 6 x Smoke grenade launchers, 1,200 hp engine, ERA, FCS, LRF, BC, FSS, digital communications, GPS etc. Compared to the Bangladeshi upgraded tank the Al Zarrar's main downside is less powerful engine, inferior armament and armor and lack of crew comfort.

Unfortunately Bangladesh cannot export these tanks not because China will not allow them but because we need these tanks until every last one is replaced by Yatagan MBTs.
 
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The Type-69 Mk.II G MBT is superior to the Al-Zarrar MBT for the following reasons:

1. The T-69 Mk.II G sports a superior main gun, a 120mm smoothbore, which has greater accuracy and munitions options than the 125mm smoothbore featured in the Al-Zarrar.

2. The T-69 Mk.II G has superior protection. It features extensive ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) and SAP (Side Armor Protection).

3. The T-69 Mk.II G has the capability to fire missiles from the main gun.

4. The T-69 Mk.II G has superior crew comfort. The Al-Zarrar still basically offers the same crew comfort as the T-54 and T-55 MBTs.

5. The T-69 Mk.II G has a superior 6TD 1200hp (895kW) supercharged 12-cylinder engine, while the Al-Zarrar has a far inferior 730hp diesel engine.

6. The T-69 Mk.II G has a superior Power/Weight Ratio of at least 26hp/tonne while the Al-Zarrar has a mere 18.25hp/tonne.

7. The T-69 Mk.II G has more recent and advanced electronic, communications, laser and other systems.

Dude i had to take exception to this post because it has a number of errors in it.
You claim that the tank has greater crew comfort and space, yet it does not seem to have a larger turret and also It would be fair to say that the tank would have the same torsion bar suspension. How is this more comfortable?

The turret has ERA but if you look at a Al Zarrar it has a completely different turret shape which is additional armour. The ERA is in the same location on the T-69-3 and is not on top of appliqué. How is this more effective? there is also a HUGE gap in the protection on the left side of the vehicle.

The TI seems to be hardly visible. CAre to point it out? It's is fairly clear to see on pretty much every other MBT around, yet hardly visible on the tank you are a fan of.

BOTH tanks have the capability to fire missile from the main gun.

A supercharged engine is great........It is also a greater maintenance issue, which adds to the logistical issues that may occur.
 

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