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Very poor response by Pakistani military after losing 3 soldiers in a week at LOC

No real action taken against enemy except taking foreign envoys to LOC which was another show of weakness

Very poor response both at west and eastern borders

That's why I keep banging my head, Feb 19 should have been gloves off moment for PAF.
Indians only understand the language of power.
It has to be done.
 
A Junior Commissioned Officer (JCO) of Indian army was injured during a heavy exchange of gunfire along the Line of Control in Rajouri and Poonch districts whereas dozens of anti-personnel mines exploded due to bushfires in Balakote sector of Poonch.

Officials said that on Wednesday morning, Pakistani army violated ceasefire by resorting to unprovoked firing and shelling on Line of Control in Sunderbani sector and exchange of fire lasted till late evening hours.

“A Junior Commissioned Officer (JCO) of army got injured in the shelling and was evacuated to army hospital where he is under treatment,” said an official.

Similarly in Mankote and Mendhar sector areas on LoC in Mendhar sub division of Poonch, ceasefire violation started on Wednesday evening at around 07 PM and heavy shelling was going on when last reports poured in.

Meanwhile, dozens of anti-personnel landmines exploded on Line of Control in Balakote area of Mendhar sub division due to bushfires.

 
SRINAGAR: The zigzag fence that has made the Line of Control (LoC) physically visible for the last more than 15 years is undergoing an upgrade. It is being converted into a “hybrid” barrier even though the plans were to convert it into a smart border, The Hindu newspaper reported.

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Line of Control (LoC) fence in remote Kupwara
The upgrade envisages the integration of the existing fence with “LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) sensors, infrared sensors and cameras among others”.

“The new hybrid model of the smart fence being tested will cost around Rs 10 lakh per km and 60 km is being attempted this year,” the newspaper quoted a senior officer on the ground saying. “This has some rudimentary smartisation. The earlier proposal for a hi-tech fence was to cost around Rs 10 crore for 2.4 km. A Rs10 crore type trial was done in the Army’s 19 Division last year, but it was too expensive so no more contracting was done.”

Set up between 2003 and 2005, the Anti-Infiltration Obstacle System (AIOS) – as the fence is technically called, dots most of the 740 kms of the LoC. The double row concertina wire fence, however, has high rate of degradation owing to snow, the newspaper said, adding this was the reason why the army wanted to upgrade into a smart fence with various sensors integrated into it.

“For instance, Tangdhar sector gets 10-15 feet snowfall in peak winters, which means in some places the entire fence gets buried,” the report said. “Due to snow, the iron fence becomes brittle and consequently 60-70% of the fence has to be repaired every year, a second officer on the ground said.” It quoted the officer saying: “Every year, there is a major exercise over four months from March to June to bring that fence up.”

 
lol .....you stopped infiltration from iran, afghanistan ? or went to bangles or churi way ?
we dispatch terrorists to hell . you know better
Your whole country has been dispatched to hell thanks to your leader. 125K dead due to Covid and more in the pipeline. So what happened to your trains converted to hospitals that you were bragging about a few months ago?
 
lol .....you stopped infiltration from iran, afghanistan ? or went to bangles or churi way ?
we dispatch terrorists to hell . you know better

Yes, the Mi-17 fratricide is still fresh in the memory.
 
In chaotic hyperbole, truth loses
Thursday, 10 October 2013 | Pravin Sawhney

India needs to continue talking both with Pakistan's Government and the Pakistani Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue and the recurring intrusions along the line of Control. The DGMOs of the two sides must interact more often too
It was making a mountain out of a molehill. Both the Army and the media were complicit in this: One deliberately and the other out of ignorance. The recent anti-infiltration operations in Keran sector which were declared over after two weeks on October 8 by the Chief of Army Staff, General Bikram Singh, in Delhi and the Northern Army Commander, lt General Sanjiv Chachra, in Srinagar were nothing more than a molehill.
Given such high-profile Army visitations, the media also decided to up the ante by searching for ghosts that did not exist. Did Pakistani soldiers intrude and occupy Indian posts across the line of ControlIJ Was another Kargil being replayed in KeranIJ Was the Indian Air Force using gunships to dislodge terroristsIJ Were recent talks between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Nawaz Sharif in New York, which sought meetings between the two Directors-General of Military Operations, up in smokeIJ An English television channel even showed meeting with injured soldiers in Srinagar hospital as ‘exclusive’ news.
For the Indian Army, which has been battling Pakistani Army-backed infiltration since 1990, and is conversant with the loC topography, the narration of events was, to say the least, bizarre. It started with the Srinagar-base 15 Corps Commander, lt General Gurmeet Singh, holding a Press conference to announce that 40 to 50 heavily-armed infiltrators had entered the Keran sector, and deliberate operations to defeat them had been launched. Was it a coincidence that this was done the day terrorists succeeded in infiltrating the 16 Cavalry unit in Jammu and decimating its commandIJ Next, the Army Commander himself took charge of informing the media about the progress of anti-infiltration operations. It was repeatedly said that the Indian Army was in full control even as sparse infiltration from near areas had begun.
Not once during the entire operation, the media heard or met the two commanders directly responsible for the action: The Brigade Commander of Keran sector and his boss, General Officer Commanding, 28 Division. These are the officers who would have got their marching orders if indeed the Pakistani Army had shown extraordinary audacity. To appreciate what actually happened, it is necessary to understand the area of operations.
15 Corps, covering a frontage of 450km, which is more than half the loC, has two divisions — 19 and 28. The 28 Infantry Division, which is the largest division of Northern Command, is responsible for four sensitive sectors along the loC, namely, Tangdhar, Keran, Machhal and Gurez. Since the 2003 ceasefire, these sectors, at higher altitudes, have emerged as established infiltration routes. During winter months, when snow in these sectors is between 20 and 25 feet deep, the fence on the loC gets washed away.
To overcome this drawback, most of the stretch in 28 Division has a twin-fence, one behind the other to cater for regular and intense infiltration along the deep ravines here. In simple terms, while 19 Division is crucial for operations during war, 28 Division is important for counter-infiltration. Thus, the recent Keran operations should have been left to 28 Division commanders away from media glare until operations had got over.
What should concern 15 Corps and the Northern Army Commanders are two major Pakistani objectives in 28 Division area: lipa valley and Bugina bulge in Azad Kashmir. lipa valley is surrounded by four mountain ranges: The Shamsabari, the Kafir Khan, the Kasinag and the Chota Kasinag. The most important is the Shamsabari range which India dominates. If Pakistan manages to get a foothold on this range, it would then be looking into the Valley from the top. This would help Pakistan to provide better support to infiltration from this area. Moreover, if Pakistan obtains a firm lodgement on the Shamsabari range, its troops could easily roll down into the valley at a time of its own choosing in war.
Given the importance of the heights on the Shamsabari range, if Pakistan indeed would have intruded here and occupied heights, as has been alleged, the Indian Army would not have hesitated to open artillery guns in direct firing mode. Pakistani posts here have air defence guns, and India has 75/24 and 105mm guns to hit posts separated by three to eight kilometres. The opening of Indian artillery would have been the definitive indicator of a Kargil-type operation by the Pakistani Army. This would have been the end of the 2003 ceasefire, something that the Pakistan Army did not want for fear of alienating Kashmiris.
Similarly, Bugina is an attractive objective for the Indian Army and is less difficult to capture than the lipa valley. If the two Pakistani Battalion positions which overlook Bugina can be captured, India will have visibility beyond the formidable Kafir Khan range to threaten Pakistan’s Neelam-Jhelum valley hydro-power project built with Chinese help.
Unfortunately, instead of thinking aggressively at higher command levels, as Pakistan does, Indian troops in 28 Division have yet to overcome two serious operational shortcomings which impede their tactical tasks. First, Pakistani troops have far better night- vision and surveillance devices. They have Chinese-origin surveillance devices which get replaced and upgraded regularly. India procured surveillance equipment after the 2002 Operation Parakram mostly from Israel. These are now over a decade old and need replacement. Unfortunately, these were bought without adequate product support, and if it were not for the Army’s improvisations, it would have been impossible to stretch its battery lives for so long.
Second, Indian troops are rankled by the comparative state of defences in this area. After the 2005 earthquake, Pakistan gave special attention to building good forward defences, called the Steel Permanent Defence, all of which are connected by communication trenches. Given the accurate and long-range surveillance equipment, and lethal weapons available with both sides, the communication trenches will enable uninhibited troops movement between defences. The Indian side lacks good communication trenches, and has a mix of SPD and concrete trenches which will get blasted by direct gun fire from Pakistan.
Given the ground realities, three things are evident: First, senior-most Army officers sidestepped their chain of command and interfered in tactical operation. Second, they managed to hoodwink the media away from the real issue of the demolition of 16 Cavalry unit command, not in war, but by a terrorist attack. And third, without much clue about the truth, the media raised the pitch for the DGMOs’ meet to be put on the back-burner. To do so would be a mistake. India needs to talk both with Pakistan’s Government and the Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue.
(The writer is a former Indian Army officer and now Editor, FORCE, a newsmagazine on national security)

In chaotic hyperbole, truth loses
Thursday, 10 October 2013 | Pravin Sawhney

India needs to continue talking both with Pakistan's Government and the Pakistani Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue and the recurring intrusions along the line of Control. The DGMOs of the two sides must interact more often too
It was making a mountain out of a molehill. Both the Army and the media were complicit in this: One deliberately and the other out of ignorance. The recent anti-infiltration operations in Keran sector which were declared over after two weeks on October 8 by the Chief of Army Staff, General Bikram Singh, in Delhi and the Northern Army Commander, lt General Sanjiv Chachra, in Srinagar were nothing more than a molehill.
Given such high-profile Army visitations, the media also decided to up the ante by searching for ghosts that did not exist. Did Pakistani soldiers intrude and occupy Indian posts across the line of ControlIJ Was another Kargil being replayed in KeranIJ Was the Indian Air Force using gunships to dislodge terroristsIJ Were recent talks between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Nawaz Sharif in New York, which sought meetings between the two Directors-General of Military Operations, up in smokeIJ An English television channel even showed meeting with injured soldiers in Srinagar hospital as ‘exclusive’ news.
For the Indian Army, which has been battling Pakistani Army-backed infiltration since 1990, and is conversant with the loC topography, the narration of events was, to say the least, bizarre. It started with the Srinagar-base 15 Corps Commander, lt General Gurmeet Singh, holding a Press conference to announce that 40 to 50 heavily-armed infiltrators had entered the Keran sector, and deliberate operations to defeat them had been launched. Was it a coincidence that this was done the day terrorists succeeded in infiltrating the 16 Cavalry unit in Jammu and decimating its commandIJ Next, the Army Commander himself took charge of informing the media about the progress of anti-infiltration operations. It was repeatedly said that the Indian Army was in full control even as sparse infiltration from near areas had begun.
Not once during the entire operation, the media heard or met the two commanders directly responsible for the action: The Brigade Commander of Keran sector and his boss, General Officer Commanding, 28 Division. These are the officers who would have got their marching orders if indeed the Pakistani Army had shown extraordinary audacity. To appreciate what actually happened, it is necessary to understand the area of operations.
15 Corps, covering a frontage of 450km, which is more than half the loC, has two divisions — 19 and 28. The 28 Infantry Division, which is the largest division of Northern Command, is responsible for four sensitive sectors along the loC, namely, Tangdhar, Keran, Machhal and Gurez. Since the 2003 ceasefire, these sectors, at higher altitudes, have emerged as established infiltration routes. During winter months, when snow in these sectors is between 20 and 25 feet deep, the fence on the loC gets washed away.
To overcome this drawback, most of the stretch in 28 Division has a twin-fence, one behind the other to cater for regular and intense infiltration along the deep ravines here. In simple terms, while 19 Division is crucial for operations during war, 28 Division is important for counter-infiltration. Thus, the recent Keran operations should have been left to 28 Division commanders away from media glare until operations had got over.
What should concern 15 Corps and the Northern Army Commanders are two major Pakistani objectives in 28 Division area: lipa valley and Bugina bulge in Azad Kashmir. lipa valley is surrounded by four mountain ranges: The Shamsabari, the Kafir Khan, the Kasinag and the Chota Kasinag. The most important is the Shamsabari range which India dominates. If Pakistan manages to get a foothold on this range, it would then be looking into the Valley from the top. This would help Pakistan to provide better support to infiltration from this area. Moreover, if Pakistan obtains a firm lodgement on the Shamsabari range, its troops could easily roll down into the valley at a time of its own choosing in war.
Given the importance of the heights on the Shamsabari range, if Pakistan indeed would have intruded here and occupied heights, as has been alleged, the Indian Army would not have hesitated to open artillery guns in direct firing mode. Pakistani posts here have air defence guns, and India has 75/24 and 105mm guns to hit posts separated by three to eight kilometres. The opening of Indian artillery would have been the definitive indicator of a Kargil-type operation by the Pakistani Army. This would have been the end of the 2003 ceasefire, something that the Pakistan Army did not want for fear of alienating Kashmiris.
Similarly, Bugina is an attractive objective for the Indian Army and is less difficult to capture than the lipa valley. If the two Pakistani Battalion positions which overlook Bugina can be captured, India will have visibility beyond the formidable Kafir Khan range to threaten Pakistan’s Neelam-Jhelum valley hydro-power project built with Chinese help.
Unfortunately, instead of thinking aggressively at higher command levels, as Pakistan does, Indian troops in 28 Division have yet to overcome two serious operational shortcomings which impede their tactical tasks. First, Pakistani troops have far better night- vision and surveillance devices. They have Chinese-origin surveillance devices which get replaced and upgraded regularly. India procured surveillance equipment after the 2002 Operation Parakram mostly from Israel. These are now over a decade old and need replacement. Unfortunately, these were bought without adequate product support, and if it were not for the Army’s improvisations, it would have been impossible to stretch its battery lives for so long.
Second, Indian troops are rankled by the comparative state of defences in this area. After the 2005 earthquake, Pakistan gave special attention to building good forward defences, called the Steel Permanent Defence, all of which are connected by communication trenches. Given the accurate and long-range surveillance equipment, and lethal weapons available with both sides, the communication trenches will enable uninhibited troops movement between defences. The Indian side lacks good communication trenches, and has a mix of SPD and concrete trenches which will get blasted by direct gun fire from Pakistan.
Given the ground realities, three things are evident: First, senior-most Army officers sidestepped their chain of command and interfered in tactical operation. Second, they managed to hoodwink the media away from the real issue of the demolition of 16 Cavalry unit command, not in war, but by a terrorist attack. And third, without much clue about the truth, the media raised the pitch for the DGMOs’ meet to be put on the back-burner. To do so would be a mistake. India needs to talk both with Pakistan’s Government and the Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue.
(The writer is a former Indian Army officer and now Editor, FORCE, a newsmagazine on national security)


Learnt a few things from the article, though not sure if the same holds now, 7 years later.
 
In chaotic hyperbole, truth loses
Thursday, 10 October 2013 | Pravin Sawhney

India needs to continue talking both with Pakistan's Government and the Pakistani Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue and the recurring intrusions along the line of Control. The DGMOs of the two sides must interact more often too
It was making a mountain out of a molehill. Both the Army and the media were complicit in this: One deliberately and the other out of ignorance. The recent anti-infiltration operations in Keran sector which were declared over after two weeks on October 8 by the Chief of Army Staff, General Bikram Singh, in Delhi and the Northern Army Commander, lt General Sanjiv Chachra, in Srinagar were nothing more than a molehill.
Given such high-profile Army visitations, the media also decided to up the ante by searching for ghosts that did not exist. Did Pakistani soldiers intrude and occupy Indian posts across the line of ControlIJ Was another Kargil being replayed in KeranIJ Was the Indian Air Force using gunships to dislodge terroristsIJ Were recent talks between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and Nawaz Sharif in New York, which sought meetings between the two Directors-General of Military Operations, up in smokeIJ An English television channel even showed meeting with injured soldiers in Srinagar hospital as ‘exclusive’ news.
For the Indian Army, which has been battling Pakistani Army-backed infiltration since 1990, and is conversant with the loC topography, the narration of events was, to say the least, bizarre. It started with the Srinagar-base 15 Corps Commander, lt General Gurmeet Singh, holding a Press conference to announce that 40 to 50 heavily-armed infiltrators had entered the Keran sector, and deliberate operations to defeat them had been launched. Was it a coincidence that this was done the day terrorists succeeded in infiltrating the 16 Cavalry unit in Jammu and decimating its commandIJ Next, the Army Commander himself took charge of informing the media about the progress of anti-infiltration operations. It was repeatedly said that the Indian Army was in full control even as sparse infiltration from near areas had begun.
Not once during the entire operation, the media heard or met the two commanders directly responsible for the action: The Brigade Commander of Keran sector and his boss, General Officer Commanding, 28 Division. These are the officers who would have got their marching orders if indeed the Pakistani Army had shown extraordinary audacity. To appreciate what actually happened, it is necessary to understand the area of operations.
15 Corps, covering a frontage of 450km, which is more than half the loC, has two divisions — 19 and 28. The 28 Infantry Division, which is the largest division of Northern Command, is responsible for four sensitive sectors along the loC, namely, Tangdhar, Keran, Machhal and Gurez. Since the 2003 ceasefire, these sectors, at higher altitudes, have emerged as established infiltration routes. During winter months, when snow in these sectors is between 20 and 25 feet deep, the fence on the loC gets washed away.
To overcome this drawback, most of the stretch in 28 Division has a twin-fence, one behind the other to cater for regular and intense infiltration along the deep ravines here. In simple terms, while 19 Division is crucial for operations during war, 28 Division is important for counter-infiltration. Thus, the recent Keran operations should have been left to 28 Division commanders away from media glare until operations had got over.
What should concern 15 Corps and the Northern Army Commanders are two major Pakistani objectives in 28 Division area: lipa valley and Bugina bulge in Azad Kashmir. lipa valley is surrounded by four mountain ranges: The Shamsabari, the Kafir Khan, the Kasinag and the Chota Kasinag. The most important is the Shamsabari range which India dominates. If Pakistan manages to get a foothold on this range, it would then be looking into the Valley from the top. This would help Pakistan to provide better support to infiltration from this area. Moreover, if Pakistan obtains a firm lodgement on the Shamsabari range, its troops could easily roll down into the valley at a time of its own choosing in war.
Given the importance of the heights on the Shamsabari range, if Pakistan indeed would have intruded here and occupied heights, as has been alleged, the Indian Army would not have hesitated to open artillery guns in direct firing mode. Pakistani posts here have air defence guns, and India has 75/24 and 105mm guns to hit posts separated by three to eight kilometres. The opening of Indian artillery would have been the definitive indicator of a Kargil-type operation by the Pakistani Army. This would have been the end of the 2003 ceasefire, something that the Pakistan Army did not want for fear of alienating Kashmiris.
Similarly, Bugina is an attractive objective for the Indian Army and is less difficult to capture than the lipa valley. If the two Pakistani Battalion positions which overlook Bugina can be captured, India will have visibility beyond the formidable Kafir Khan range to threaten Pakistan’s Neelam-Jhelum valley hydro-power project built with Chinese help.
Unfortunately, instead of thinking aggressively at higher command levels, as Pakistan does, Indian troops in 28 Division have yet to overcome two serious operational shortcomings which impede their tactical tasks. First, Pakistani troops have far better night- vision and surveillance devices. They have Chinese-origin surveillance devices which get replaced and upgraded regularly. India procured surveillance equipment after the 2002 Operation Parakram mostly from Israel. These are now over a decade old and need replacement. Unfortunately, these were bought without adequate product support, and if it were not for the Army’s improvisations, it would have been impossible to stretch its battery lives for so long.
Second, Indian troops are rankled by the comparative state of defences in this area. After the 2005 earthquake, Pakistan gave special attention to building good forward defences, called the Steel Permanent Defence, all of which are connected by communication trenches. Given the accurate and long-range surveillance equipment, and lethal weapons available with both sides, the communication trenches will enable uninhibited troops movement between defences. The Indian side lacks good communication trenches, and has a mix of SPD and concrete trenches which will get blasted by direct gun fire from Pakistan.
Given the ground realities, three things are evident: First, senior-most Army officers sidestepped their chain of command and interfered in tactical operation. Second, they managed to hoodwink the media away from the real issue of the demolition of 16 Cavalry unit command, not in war, but by a terrorist attack. And third, without much clue about the truth, the media raised the pitch for the DGMOs’ meet to be put on the back-burner. To do so would be a mistake. India needs to talk both with Pakistan’s Government and the Army to find a resolution to the Kashmir issue.
(The writer is a former Indian Army officer and now Editor, FORCE, a newsmagazine on national security)



Learnt a few things from the article, though not sure if the same holds now, 7 years later.
Holds good for 2013 but their surveillance capabilities and defense infrastructure have improved many folds since then.
 
Holds good for 2013 but their surveillance capabilities and defense infrastructure have improved many folds since then.

Also, if the Bugina Bulge was supposedly used for infiltration and apparently very easy for IA to target and render unusable, then why haven't they?
 

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