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Taliban Military Chief Mullah Baradar captured by Pakistan

Do you know what this movement was not supported by any Major Political Muslim & same was the case with Khilafat Movement guess who 'used' Khilafat movement 'Gandhi', & these are same Maulana's who declared Sir Syed Ahmed Khan 'infidel', so better keep this discussion out of this thread
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That is incorrect. It is a myth that all the "Maulvis" declared Sir Syed as KAfir, just like the same myth is propagated about Iqbal.

The truth is that it was only a small section of ulema under Maulvi Imdad-ul-Ali who was actually loyal to the Britihs by the way who got a special fatwa from mecca(after providing wrong info) that Sir Syed be declared a Kafir.

The main controversy was behind the Sir Syed establishing a Theology school in the newly established AMU. When he stepped down and allowed Maulvi Imdad-ul-ali to take over this was dropped and the controversy stopped then and there.

The only oppositiong by the Reshmi rommal or deoband ulema or other religious scholars to Sir Syed and those "loyal to the British" muslims was that they should not study English and work as their civil servants as they are strengthening their rule and also getting "Christiansed/Westernised" as a result. Again it was not oppostition to modern education or English language per se but the fact that the foreign power should not be helped in anyway, and opposed as much as possible.

They were infact one of the pioneers of the freedom movement in the sub-continent who sacrificed a lot in all forms.
 
`Baradar arrest staged by Pak to scuttle Afghan peace efforts`
Press Trust of India
Washington: The Hamid Karzai government is accusing Pakistan of "orchestrating" the arrest of Mullah Baradar and other Taliban leaders "most amenable to negotiation" to scuttle its move to establish peace, a media report said on Saturday.

Pakistan arrested over a dozen top Taliban commanders, including Baradar, a close aide of Mullah Omer, recently and has resisted demands to hand them over to Afghanistan.



The main effect, of Baradar's arrest from Karachi last month, Afghan officials argue, has been to derail Afghan-led efforts to secure peace talks with the Taliban, making that peace ever more remote, The Washington Post said in a news dispatch from its correspondents in Kabul and Islamabad.

"Senior Afghan officials in the military and presidential palace accuse Pakistan of orchestrating the arrest of Baradar and others to take down Taliban leaders most amenable to negotiations," it said.

"Some of them say that Afghans had been in secret contact with Baradar before his arrest and that he was prepared to join the 1,400 people descending on Kabul next month for a peace conference," it added.

Despite Afghan requests, Pakistan has refused to hand over Baradar and other Taliban leaders, the daily said.

However, Pakistani officials flatly deny that they intended to derail the peace talks, The Post said.

Such an allegation, one Pakistani intelligence official said, is a "slur on us".

"There is a dire need for all of us, the international community and the Afghan government, to seek ways we can bring them peace," Shaida Mohammad Abdali, deputy national security adviser, was quoted as saying by the news daily.

The Washington Post said Afghan officials attribute to Pakistan multiple motives for the timing of the arrest of Baradar: a desire to not let Afghans control peace talks, to offer up select Taliban leaders to slake American demands for action, and to maintain a degree of influence over the Taliban movement they once openly supported.

An American military official in Kabul said Pakistan is using the capture of insurgents as a "trade bait" to extract more aid and military assistance from the US, the daily said.

After his arrest, Mullah Baradar has been interrogated by both the Pakistani and CIA intelligence officials, but the Afghan officials have not been given any access to him.

According to the newspaper, some Afghans say the arrests of Baradar and others undermined their bargaining position.

"He was ready to go to the peace jirga," one senior Afghan official was quoted as saying.

After his arrest, "the process of negotiations with the Taliban has slowed. We are now in a suspended state," he said.
 
Now according to this thread Mullah Baradar was captured sometime prior to 15 Feb. 2010. It is now almost 2 months since that capture and this appears in the news.

Add to this the current outbursts by Karzai re US, NATO et al, leave me with a suspicion he is running his own private agenda and it is not to Afghanistan’s, USA’s or Pakistan’s benefit.

Afghan officials say Pakistan's arrest of Taliban leader threatens peace talks

By Joshua Partlow and Karen DeYoung
Washington Post staff writers

Saturday, April 10, 2010; A11

KABUL -- Senior Afghan officials are now criticizing as counterproductive the arrest in Pakistan this year of Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, the No. 2 Taliban official. Its main effect, the Afghan officials say, has been to derail Afghan-led efforts to secure peace talks with the Taliban, making that peace ever more remote.

The episode offers a window into the mutual suspicions that still divide Afghanistan and Pakistan, mostly because of Pakistan's long history of support for the Taliban, as well as differences between Afghanistan, Pakistan and the United States about how best to seek reconciliation between insurgents and the Afghan government.

Senior Afghan officials in the military and presidential palace accuse Pakistan of orchestrating the arrest of Baradar and others to take down Taliban leaders most amenable to negotiations. Some of them say that Afghans had been in secret contact with Baradar before his arrest and that he was prepared to join the 1,400 people descending on Kabul next month for a peace conference. Despite Afghan requests, Pakistan has refused to hand over Baradar and other Taliban leaders.

Pakistani officials flatly deny that they intended to derail Taliban talks. Such an allegation, one Pakistani intelligence official said, is a "slur on us."

If the Afghan government "were talking to him, why did they allow him to leave Afghanistan?" he said. "If he was so important [to the peace process], he himself should have stayed there. If he was so important to the jirga, why did the United States provide the information that allowed us to catch him?"

The Afghan government's concern over the timing of the arrests reflects the urgency many feel to initiate a political dialogue with Taliban leadership. This push for high-stakes diplomacy has worried certain segments of Afghan society, including women and minority ethnic groups, who suffered the most under Taliban rule in the 1990s. The Obama administration prefers to focus on enticements for lower-level foot soldiers to switch sides, but President Hamid Karzai says the insurgency cannot be subdued without a political deal with Taliban leaders, according to his aides.

"There is a dire need for all of us, the international community and the Afghan government, to seek ways we can bring them peace," said Shaida Mohammad Abdali, deputy national security adviser in Afghanistan.

Both Afghans and their NATO allies want a negotiated solution to the nine-year-long insurgency, although there are differences of opinion among Afghanistan's Western partners -- and within some Western governments -- on how and how quickly negotiations should proceed.

Senior officials in Washington, including Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, have counseled delaying substantive reconciliation talks until the Taliban has been weakened by the current U.S. military surge, while Britain has said publicly that negotiations should proceed in tandem with the fighting.

In Afghanistan, U.S. military officials appear much more amenable to such talks. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the U.S. and NATO commander, has appointed the retired British officer who performed the same task for U.S. forces in Iraq to begin probing for dialogue at all levels.

"One without the other makes absolutely no sense," retired Lt. Gen. Graeme Lamb said of the distinction drawn in Washington between reintegration of low-level fighters and reconciliation with top Taliban political leaders.

The pursuit of contacts with the Taliban appears to be happening at many levels within Afghan society, including governors, tribal elders, religious scholars and former Taliban and mujaheddin fighters. In the Taliban heartland of southern Afghanistan, both Ahmed Wali Karzai, the president's half-brother and the region's leading power broker, and Nangarhar governor Gul Agha Sherzai, his longtime rival, made separate visits to U.S. officials in Kandahar earlier this year to try to convince them they could lead the effort to bring the Taliban to the negotiating table.

Some Afghans say the arrests of Baradar and others undermined their bargaining position. "He was ready to go to the peace jirga," one senior Afghan official said. After his arrest, "the process of negotiations with the Taliban has slowed. We are now in a suspended state."

Afghan officials attribute to Pakistan multiple motives for the timing of the arrest of Baradar: a desire to not let Afghans control peace talks, to offer up select Taliban leaders to slake American demands for action, and to maintain a degree of influence over the Taliban movement they once openly supported. One American military official in Kabul said Pakistan is using the capture of insurgents as "trade bait" to extract more aid and military assistance from the United States.

Pakistan insists it has no relationship with the Afghan Taliban, although officials acknowledge having intelligence contacts, who they say are similar to those developed by the CIA.

Since Baradar's arrest, he has been interrogated by Pakistani and U.S. intelligence officials, but the Afghans have been left out. During Karzai's recent visit to Islamabad, he asked Pakistan to turn Baradar and other captured Taliban leaders over to Afghan custody. But Pakistan has said they must go on trial there.

Correspondents Keith Richburg and Rajiv Chandrasekaran in Kabul and Griff Witte in Islamabad contributed to this report.
 
Taliban No. 2 interrogations yield useful Intel: US

WASHINGTON: Interrogations of the Afghan Taliban's No. 2 leader have started producing useful intelligence on the group and its operations against US forces across the Pakistani border, US officials said on Tuesday.

Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar was captured in Karachi in late January in a joint operation by the CIA and Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) spy agency, reports Reuters.

Direct US access to Baradar, who is in Pakistani custody, was minimal at first. But US officials said the ISI has eased restrictions and American investigators have been participating regularly and directly in interrogation sessions for at least the past month.

Some of the information given by Baradar, the Afghan Taliban's longtime military commander, has been verified and has been useful to US commanders and intelligence officers and analysts in both Afghanistan and Washington, three US officials involved in the matter said.

They spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue and would not discuss the nature of the information or describe what interrogation methods were used. They said Pakistan was taking the lead.

“These things take time,” one US military official said of interrogating Baradar. “It takes time to get the information and it takes time to check out that information.”

“He started sharing information that is useful,” another official said.

Baradar's arrest was hailed by the commander of US and Nato forces in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, as a potential game-changing development after eight years of war, although some US officials initially played down the value of the information he gave Pakistani interrogators.

Signs of Taliban Discord

Since his arrest, US military officials have pointed to signs of discord within Taliban ranks that could weaken the insurgency. Baradar, who was close to the group's reclusive chief, Mullah Omar, was the main day-to-day commander responsible for leading an increasingly bloody campaign against US and Nato troops, plotting suicide bombings and other major attacks.

But many questions about the capture and Pakistan's motivations remain a mystery months later, such as what intelligence led agents to Baradar's location and what prompted the ISI to act against long-time Taliban allies.

A senior US military official in Kabul described the arrest as part of a power play by Pakistan to ensure it has a major role in any Afghan reconciliation process.

“I think it's a matter of controlling the dialogue,” the official said recently, on condition of anonymity. “It's to ensure that they have a principal position in a negotiated settlement here, in resolving this conflict.

“I know for a fact that that is the position that the Pakistanis want. They want to ensure that they are not without a big voice in the outcome.”

There have been conflicting reports that Baradar might have been talking to Afghan President Hamid Karzai and that may have led to his arrest.

US and Nato advisers in Afghanistan have urged Karzai not to rush into deals with insurgents as part of a national reconciliation process that they envision may take at least three years.
 

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