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Preparing for the next Balakot type strike

Well you are 70 years late or shall I say 7 decades late ? . So sure Yaar . Go ahead . Tired of living this boring life . Nothing ever happens here !!!!
If I had told you on the 25 the of Feb India entering deep inside Pakistani airspace no one would have believed it.its not about what was bombed or numbers killed ,it changed something that night.
 
If you dint understand that's the idea that is to increasing the cost for Pakistan.

Many here believe Pakistan is the one which is the cause of the problem in Kashmir and some of them believe it's not completely possible to cut that but it can be reduced by increasing the cost .
There are many "beliefs" in India, usually rooted in some hypothetical or hyperbole. Best not to speak for them. This is just a fluff piece for internal consumption. They already tried their best and failed at attacking a very shallow target inside Pakistan. Long range target, undetected with no response time, using the IAF? Thats a good joke.
 
If you dint understand that's the idea that is to increasing the cost for Pakistan.

Many here believe Pakistan is the one which is the cause of the problem in Kashmir and some of them believe it's not completely possible to cut that but it can be reduced by increasing the cost .
your negative rating is a testament to how shitty your analysis is.
 
A concern already put forward by a member here.
All this planning is well and good, but what about India air defenses? How would IAF beat them? Have they factored that in this equation, cause if not, all planning is futile. All indian jets falling inside indian territory will create alarming situation for rescue choppers, we will run into tea surplus problems, too many vir chakras would go useless, cause no good material for propaganda stories, and no more shit stories like the op posted.
I say wait, wait for a cloudy day, shut down all your air defenses, and if not all your pilots are suffering from diarrhea and have some courage left to target something other than trees, ooh please, they are all welcome, we offer good tea.
 
If I had told you on the 25 the of Feb India entering deep inside Pakistani airspace no one would have believed it.its not about what was bombed or numbers killed ,it changed something that night.
Yeah and we told you we will surprise you , we did surprise you on 27th Feb . Shot down your two jets . Your own friendly fire blew up your Heli . We bombed your locations . We knew your high command was there at the time . You grabbed Brahmos , we grabbed Nukes . You also didn't believe DG ISPR on 26th Feb about suprise . You guys struck at night , we struck at dawn , visual proofs and all. So dare do it again , we will not just respond but teach a lesson too this time .
It also changed not just something but a lot on 27th Feb and in morning , at dawn , when the everyone was awake.
 
If I had told you on the 25 the of Feb India entering deep inside Pakistani airspace no one would have believed it.its not about what was bombed or numbers killed ,it changed something that night.
okay i get it you did Balakot, then what? why you Indians forget/avoid Pakistan's response within 24hrs and broad daylight.
 
There are many "beliefs" in India, usually rooted in some hypothetical or hyperbole. Best not to speak for them. This is just a fluff piece for internal consumption. They already tried their best and failed at attacking a very shallow target inside Pakistan. Long range target, undetected with no response time, using the IAF? Thats a good joke.
Every thing you see is not true.if I told you what happened in balakot was a test run to check your response or tactics before doing the actual thing which is to scrap article 370 in Kashmir ,may be Indian establishment was confident they can take care of the Pakistani response after the raid on balakot

Yeah and we told you we will surprise you , we did surprise you on 27th Feb . Shot down your two jets . Your own friendly fire blew up your Heli . We bombed your locations . We knew your high command was there at the time . You grabbed Brahmos , we grabbed Nukes . You also didn't believe DG ISPR on 26th Feb about suprise . You guys struck at night , we struck at dawn , visual proofs and all. So dare do it again , we will not just respond but teach a lesson too this time .
okay i get it you did Balakot, then what? why you Indians forget/avoid Pakistan's response within 24hrs and broad daylight.
See the above post

your negative rating is a testament to how shitty your analysis is.
Sometimes I tend to speak the truth
 
If I had told you on the 25 the of Feb India entering deep inside Pakistani airspace no one would have believed it.its not about what was bombed or numbers killed ,it changed something that night.

If I had told you on 26th Feb that after your strikes in Balakot (lets for a second assume that it hit their intended target) will have a counter strike in IOK (Lets assume that it failed and nothing was hit) and we would shoot down atleast 1 of your jet, there will no response from you the next day or day after or even months after. You would not have believed it that IAF and IA will stand down after their sovereignty was breached.

The question is what stopped IAF from retaliating even though we paraded your captured pilot to the media and rubbed your noses to the ground? You certainly had the will for your strongman Modi had a perfect opportunity to start the war which he was itching to. What stopped him?

If you can answer this question, you would know that all the media hype and chest thumping you have witnessed since Modis elections is just hot air and you cannot attack Pakistan without loosing a lot more!

okay i get it you did Balakot, then what? why you Indians forget/avoid Pakistan's response within 24hrs and broad daylight.

This is what they want to avoid. They will continuously blabber about Balakot but would not even mention what happened 24 hrs later as if everything is normal and they were unscathed by giving their awaam lollipop of an F16.. The gullible Indian population will gulp it like the gospel and start chest thumping on the forums and facebook.
 
Every thing you see is not true.if I told you what happened in balakot was a test run to check your response or tactics before doing the actual thing which is to scrap article 370 in Kashmir ,may be Indian establishment was confident they can take care of the Pakistani response after the raid on balakot



See the above post


Sometimes I tend to speak the truth
Yeah truth , but from your own biased perspective dear. We told you our truth . Believe it or not .
 
If I had told you on 26th Feb that after your strikes in Balakot (lets for a second assume that it hit their intended target) will have a counter strike in IOK (Lets assume that it failed and nothing was hit) and we would shoot down atleast 1 of your jet, there will no response from you the next day or day after or even months after. You would not have believed it that IAF and IA will stand down after their sovereignty was breached.

The question is what stopped IAF from retaliating even though we paraded your captured pilot to the media and rubbed your noses to the ground? You certainly had the will for your strongman Modi had a perfect opportunity to start the war which he was itching to. What stopped him?

If you can answer this question, you would know that all the media hype and chest thumping you have witnessed since Modis elections is just hot air and you cannot attack Pakistan without loosing a lot more!
I think I have replyied similar post above .
 
If I had told you on the 25 the of Feb India entering deep inside Pakistani airspace no one would have believed it.its not about what was bombed or numbers killed ,it changed something that night.
Jst be careful this time, there may be many abhinandans paraded in Islamabad and won't be given back untill IOK been abandoned by Indian forces while Tht I'll give pakistan a licence to kill at its will, by attacking the Indian forces supply lines in kashmir and some other places while letting freedom fighters from kashmir and Nagas and khalistan takes charge against Indian army, while pak - China led coliation attacking it from 3 sides?
 
Preparing for the next Balakot-type strike
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Air Marshal Ramesh Rai (Retd)

We would have to devise a mechanism to fuse actionable intelligence with aerial operations having real-time capability. For targets deep in the Pakistan territory, intelligence and operations would need to work out a method for a short-time cycle in Pakistan air space, offering little or no reaction time.
Posted at: Sep 27, 2019, 6:59 AM (IST)

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Military options: Each aerial ingress would require exceptional tactical shrewdness and intelligence agility to befuddle the Pakistani air defence.

By Air Marshal Ramesh Rai (Retd)
Military commentator

Employment of air power in Balakot on February 26 this year ushered the air domain into the counter-terror response matrix. Many nations consider airpower as the key element, among all military tools, in the war against terror since it offers a flexible, quick and timely response option without putting troops on the ground. India must consider extending the canvas of aerial targeting to the entire range of terror nodes, i.e. individuals, groups, camps, safe havens and launch pads etc to deter the perpetuators of terror. Cross-border terrorism isn’t going to get dissuaded with one aerial strike of limited liability and objective, however audacious and innovative it may have been.

The terror training camp at Balakot, on a hill top by Kunhar river, away from populated areas, with clearly discernible buildings, fitted well into the air power’s targeting frame. The element of secrecy and surprise afforded an unintercepted run. Pakistan was inarguably caught napping in the air defence (AD) of their territory and now awakened to this new reality. They would have reworked their air defence dynamics. India will have to factor this augmentation, and any ingress in the immediate or near future would entail the risk of exposing aircrew to their defences. A different mechanism would be necessary.


Hitherto, each aerial ingress would require exceptional tactical shrewdness and intelligence agility to befuddle the Pakistani AD. Some options could be as follows:



(a) Manned fighters (Mirages and SU-30) heavily escorted with AD and electronic warfare (EW) escorts, standoff jammers under AWACS cover, i.e. a much bigger package with a lateral and vertical spread combined for greater protection based on the threat in the area of ingress.



(b) Air-launched cruise missiles like the BrahMos, a medium range (400+ km) supersonic missile with a 300 kg warhead and a circular probability error (CEP) of one metre. The accuracy and its supersonic speed give it good momentum for better target penetration and no collateral damage. With a range of over 400 km, most targets would come under its ambit even if launched from within its own side of the border. In the near future SCALP cruise missiles onboard Rafales will provide a stealthy option.


(c) Unmanned combat air vehicle (UCAV), when inducted or developed. An indigenous solution could be the UCAV version of the BrahMos to be fitted on the Rustom II UAV. DRDO is developing a stealth UCAV called AURA which would be capable of launching missiles, bombs and precision guided munitions. Their effort could be expedited. Stealthy UCAVs would go undetected by Pakistani radars and yet do the job, particularly against individuals, groups and hideouts. In the future, employment of UCAVs for high-risk, high-payoff missions would expand the range of our coercive or punitive methods.



(d) Land-based cruise missile like the Nirbhay which has a range of about 1,000 km and can deliver 24 different types of warheads, depending on the mission’s requirement of between 200-300kg. With a 4m CEP, it has a good hit probability, without much collateral damage. Land-based or ship-borne cruise missiles would, however, run the risk of a similar retaliation from Pakistan. Considering that both sides have conventional and nuclear warheads on missiles, an undesirable escalation could accrue.



All the above options would, however, need to be supported by surprise, deception and cyber tools in the right combination. In Operation ‘Outside the Box’, the Israeli Air Force had used cyber techniques by employing electronic warfare technology like the “Suter network attack system” of the US Air Force which fed false targets and manipulated sensors of Syrian radars during their aerial strike on the suspected nuclear plant at the Al Kibar site in the Deir ez-Zor region of Syria on September 6, 2007. Similar systems would be required to be inducted/developed and employed to evade Pakistani AD.



The start point for counter-terror operations are intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) to illuminate the key nodes, individuals, groups or infrastructure and assign them as targets. A terrorist is an elusive target and affords only a limited window of engagement during which it must be found, located, identified and destroyed. This process is called the ‘kill chain’ and the entire operation is time-critical. Exploiting this time criticality needs synergising the entire gamut of capabilities, i.e. intelligence, surveillance, tracking, communications, air defence, decision-making and targeting. The key lies in merging intelligence with operations.



American counter-terror operations have their intelligence agency, CIA in the lead, since the first step is to identify the target using various intelligence methods, that is after sifting hundreds of intel reports, phone conversations, human intel and tip-offs.



We would have to devise a mechanism to fuse actionable intelligence with aerial operations with a real-time capability. For targets deep in the Pakistan territory, intelligence and operations would need to work out a method for a short-time cycle in Pakistan air space, offering little or no reaction time. The Indian intelligence agencies and their merger with air operations would have to attain such contours with an understanding of the time and space criticality.



The development of an air-centric counter-terror response has signalled a significant military aggression in our doctrine. This new aggressive approach to counterterrorism has sent a clear signal that terrorists would be sought and targeted wherever they may be. Such signalling must continue, for which airpower — with its inherent speed, range, stealth, precision weapons and employment capabilities — emerges as an appropriate tool.



Air power must be seen accordingly, and its capabilities developed with armed UAVs/UCAVs, air-launched cruise missiles, cyber tools, stand-off weapons and stealth technologies to support aerial counter-terror operations. This does not imply that airpower is the best military option to combat terrorism in all situations, nor does it imply that military strikes alone can win the war on terror. The way to win the war against terrorism is to make use of every resource at our command.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/mobi/n...-for-the-next-balakot-type-strike/838704.html
How do u put up this Bull shit despite knowing u lost two jet planes and made no damage in Pakistan
 

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