Panama leak Case Proceedings - JIT Report, News, Updates And Discussion

[fatman17]

Panama case commission: FBR has burnt all relevant record of Sharif family
Comments of FBR officer on condition of anonymity.

 

[PakSword]

Well..if your stated news is true...i want to know abt the judge..who wasnt even ready to suspend the PM for fair inquiry? Was it, the advocate?

Probably yes... reason being everyone would ask for suspension without completion of due process.. shame..

Han lekin us becharay akelay ne kia karlena hai :s

Sorry, I forgot to include "most likely" in my sentence..

but whoever is assigned, I will be able to tell you guys his political affiliation hopefully.. and his character..

Panama case commission: FBR has burnt all relevant record of Sharif family
Comments of FBR officer on condition of anonymity.

Hehe.. probably true..

There is a reason Shareefs are distributing sweets..

@Farah Sohail

Remember we were discussing the last reports coming in, that the verdict has been leaked, it is against NS but there is a way in the verdict for him to save himself in the longer run.. Probably it was true..

wow you guys are still hopeful!

I am not..

 

[El Sidd]

Panama case commission: FBR has burnt all relevant record of Sharif family
Comments of FBR officer on condition of anonymity.

Smart choice.

It is quite interesting this deadlock in Pakistan's political scheme of things. A much worthy question right now is if Pakistanis are willing to accept Maryam Safdar or Hamza Shehbaz as their 'designated' leader.

The international establishment has become tired and even dejected by their past choices in the shape of Asif Zardari, Altaf Hussein and Nawaz Sharif. Imran Khan is not an easy customer for them to deal with.

It is a cat and mouse game which Pakistanis admire and play along knowingly or unknowingly, by choice or by desire. But it is a win win for the International Establishment because if there is an 'Indus Spring' they can write off a nuclear Pakistan and if the situation continues like this then they will eventually task India for that politically.

Sadly the international establishment has undervalued the potential and the slow rumbling within the surface of Pakistani society and largely discredit the 'power of a common Pakistani'.

History repeats itself. While one may laugh at the irony that this region which is the cradle of civilization with example of modern systems in Mohen jo Daro and Harrappa, the first planned cities with running water and sewerage system, have done a full circle and now represent 21st century slums(Karachi).

 

[Farah Sohail]

There is a reason Shareefs are distributing sweets

@Farah Sohail

Remember we were discussing the last reports coming in, that the verdict has been leaked, it is against NS but there is a way in the verdict for him to save himself in the longer run.. Probably it was true..
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@bold i am thanking God for little mercies..tht Nawaz Sharif didnt do celebratory and victory speech in any address to the nation..yesterday...Because i am sure, had tht been the case! Justice Khosa would have certainly suffered heart attack..... May Allah keep him safe, sound and healthy..... Because it was evident from his harsh tone and sarcastic comments in the verdict...tht he was boiling from inside, while writing tht verdict..aur unhein samajh nahi aaraha tha ke woh kia karein? Asghar khan case ka bhi zikr kiya ke uski verdict implement nahi hui... He was literally as disgusted by the sharif family as all of us.... So....ThankGod tht there was no victory speech from Nawaz Sharif yesterday @PakSword @Guvera

You are right.. This majority verdict has a way to save the sharifs despite apparently being against them...unless and until, members of JIT miraculously turn out to be like Justice Khosa, Justice Gulzar, Shoaib Suddle, Tariq Khosa etc..which is highly highly unlikely..

But theres one thing though.. Members of JIT will be finalised by the same panama bench.. Though dont know..will they have any authority to reject the names given by the instituitions, if they please? Or they will simply accept the members nominated?

Bohot Umda !! Allah barkat dega

I love your one liners... Waisy woh baat majority judges par waqayi fit beth gayi ke baatein crororon ki, dukaan pakoron ki

Acha ...waisy ek baat koi bataa dey... Acc to Advocate...ye verdict sadyon yaad rehna tha.... Koi mujhe samjhaa dey ke ye majority verdict kaisy yaad rehna tha sadyon? Or he forgot to include..the word dissenting notes.....ke dissenting notes ka verdict sadyon yaad rahay ga? @PakSword @Guvera

 

[Imad.Khan]

 

[Farah Sohail]

Izzat or Zillat Allah ke haath main hai, koi kuch nahi bigar sakta truthful or honest admi ka, these two judges have earned immense respect in my eyes.

Gen Raheel sharif ne tu abhi PM ke saath kuch bhi nahi kiya tha...still we all saw the defamation campaign and his character assassination..soon after his retirement... Justice Khosa ne jo verdict likha hai...Shatif family ke against..aur sab se barh unki tone aur sarcastic comments against sharifs...itni beizzati ki, sharif family ki...aur qatari letter ki..ke koi kasar nahi chori..... Inke saath jo sharif family karay gi... Allah maaf karay...

 

[war&peace]

SC bench simply needs to de-seat NS if the bench is serious in dispensing justice and want JIT to work objectively.

 

[Imad.Khan]

 

[Guvera]

@bold i am thanking God for little mercies..tht Nawaz Sharif didnt do celebratory and victory speech in any address to the nation..yesterday...Because i am sure, had tht been the case! Justice Khosa would have certainly suffered heart attack..... May Allah keep him safe, sound and healthy..... Because it was evident from his harsh tone and sarcastic comments in the verdict...tht he was boiling from inside, while writing tht verdict..aur unhein samajh nahi aaraha tha ke woh kia karein? Asghar khan case ka bhi zikr kiya ke uski verdict implement nahi hui... He was literally as disgusted by the sharif family as all of us.... So....ThankGod tht there was no victory speech from Nawaz Sharif yesterday @PakSword @Guvera

You are right.. This majority verdict has a way to save the sharifs despite apparently being against them...unless and until, members of JIT miraculously turn out to be like Justice Khosa, Justice Gulzar, Shoaib Suddle, Tariq Khosa etc..which is highly highly unlikely..

But theres one thing though.. Members of JIT will be finalised by the same panama bench.. Though dont know..will they have any authority to reject the names given by the instituitions, if they please? Or they will simply accept the members nominated?



I love your one liners... Waisy woh baat majority judges par waqayi fit beth gayi ke baatein crororon ki, dukaan pakoron ki

Acha ...waisy ek baat koi bataa dey... Acc to Advocate...ye verdict sadyon yaad rehna tha.... Koi mujhe samjhaa dey ke ye majority verdict kaisy yaad rehna tha sadyon? Or he forgot to include..the word dissenting notes.....ke dissenting notes ka verdict sadyon yaad rahay ga? @PakSword @Guvera

I just place these one liner's so that ppl can relax a little after so much of disappointing stuff going around, as far as verdict being remembered for centuries is concerned mera khiyal hai verdict ke bad jo fasaad hona hai or jo anarchy phelni hai mulk main which is evident now woh shayed centuries tak yad rakhi jaye.

 

[Zain tariq pk]

Justice khosa's poem for the nation on yousa raza gillanis case.'pity the nation'

 

[PakSword]

Who is saying other judges have not talked about 62/ 63?

Azmat Saeed:

30. Before the said provisions can be pressed into service, there must be a declaration by Court of law. At the risk of stating the obvious, it may be clarified that the Courts of law are concerned with the matters of law not morality. There can be no manner of doubt that the term “honest” as employed in Article 62(1)(f) refers to legal honesty, an objective concept and not mere moral or ethical honesty, which is subjective. The Courts have never wandered into the realm of morality, in this behalf.

IK can't go to EC for disqualification..

 

[PakSword]

31. In the instant case, the issue agitated pertains not to any incorrect statement made by the Respondents but rather the alleged failure to disclose the entire facts. In the circumstances, a legal obligation to disclose such facts appears to be a sine qua non to attract the provisions of Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution.

32. The election disputes pertaining to disqualification, including in view of Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution, may crop up before, after or during the elections. It may originate at the time of scrutiny of the Nomination Papers by the Returning Officer, during the course of election and immediately thereafter in disputes before the Election Commission of Pakistan. But most often Election Petitions are filed before the Election Tribunal eventually constituted under ROPA. And occasionally through Constitutional Petitions in the nature of quo warranto filed before the High Court under Article 199 or before this Court under Article 184(3) of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973. Such proceedings may or may not result in disqualification of a person or annulment of his election or a part thereof. In some of such matters, which have come up before this Court Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution required interpretation.

Iss Azmat ne apni azeem azmat dekhatay huay EC ko actually kaha hai ke agar yeh non disclosure ki baat tum tak aaye for disqualification tou uss ko 90 days wala provision daal kar kharij kardena..


Kutta judge.. Mardood...

 

[Guvera]

Who is saying other judges have not talked about 62/ 63?

Azmat Saeed:

30. Before the said provisions can be pressed into service, there must be a declaration by Court of law. At the risk of stating the obvious, it may be clarified that the Courts of law are concerned with the matters of law not morality. There can be no manner of doubt that the term “honest” as employed in Article 62(1)(f) refers to legal honesty, an objective concept and not mere moral or ethical honesty, which is subjective. The Courts have never wandered into the realm of morality, in this behalf.

IK can't go to EC for disqualification..

No wonder Justice Khosa and Justice Gulzar are senior most judges and next in line for being CJ of Pakistan, the other three are juniors and will always be junior's, reason can be seen in their judgement which according to me is Batein Caroron ki or Dukaan Pakoron ki

31. In the instant case, the issue agitated pertains not to any incorrect statement made by the Respondents but rather the alleged failure to disclose the entire facts. In the circumstances, a legal obligation to disclose such facts appears to be a sine qua non to attract the provisions of Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution.

32. The election disputes pertaining to disqualification, including in view of Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution, may crop up before, after or during the elections. It may originate at the time of scrutiny of the Nomination Papers by the Returning Officer, during the course of election and immediately thereafter in disputes before the Election Commission of Pakistan. But most often Election Petitions are filed before the Election Tribunal eventually constituted under ROPA. And occasionally through Constitutional Petitions in the nature of quo warranto filed before the High Court under Article 199 or before this Court under Article 184(3) of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973. Such proceedings may or may not result in disqualification of a person or annulment of his election or a part thereof. In some of such matters, which have come up before this Court Article 62(1)(f) of the Constitution required interpretation.

Iss Azmat ne apni azeem azmat dekhatay huay EC ko actually kaha hai ke agar yeh non disclosure ki baat tum tak aaye for disqualification tou uss ko 90 days wala provision daal kar kharij kardena..


Kutta judge.. Mardood...

No wonder he is sent back by the angels from the half way

 

[PakSword]

43. To rely upon the statements/interviews of Respondents No.7 and 8, in the above context, would require rewriting the Laws pertains to Elections, including Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution and the corresponding provisions of ROPA, 1976. In the current legal dispensation attributing vicarious liability to a father for the acts and omissions of his son, more particularly, oral statements would result in a legal farce, which cannot be contemplated.

Chalo ji.. abb 62/63 clear hi nahi hai... iss ko rewrite karna parega..

hahahah.. Iss judgement ko Indian movie ke script ke tor pe kafi achay paison main becha jasakta hai.. kuchh zar e mubadla aajaega Pakistan ke paas..

 

[Farah Sohail]

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