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Operation Peace Spring in Northern Syria : The Turkish initiative to create safe zone

R1a is the premier indo-european ydna loooooooooool not turkic

R1a and R1b are Turkic DNA and Most of Europeans , Indians are come from Turkic


Haplogroup P-M45 ( proto Turkic Peoples )
Time of origin : 45.000 years ago
Place of origin : Central asia and Southeast Asia
Descendants Haplogroup Q and R

Tuvinian (Turkic) 35% Altaian-Kizhi (Turkic) 28% Todjin (Turkic) 22% P-P295-Q-M242 Kets , Selkups, Turkmen, Altai, Tuvans, Far East Siberia, Americas (Ancient Samples Anzick from Montana, Prehistoric Alaskan + Ancient Greenlander+Xirong, Mongolian Altai Kurgans (R1a-z93 mixed with Q1a2a1-L54) and possibly Afantova.

Haplogroup R ( Russians,,French,,Germans,,British )
Time of origin : 26,800 years ago
Place of origin : Central Asia
 
R1a and R1b are Turkic DNA and Most of Europeans , Indians are come from Turkic


Haplogroup P-M45 ( proto Turkic Peoples )
Time of origin : 45.000 years ago
Place of origin : Central asia and Southeast Asia
Descendants Haplogroup Q and R

Tuvinian (Turkic) 35% Altaian-Kizhi (Turkic) 28% Todjin (Turkic) 22% P-P295-Q-M242 Kets , Selkups, Turkmen, Altai, Tuvans, Far East Siberia, Americas (Ancient Samples Anzick from Montana, Prehistoric Alaskan + Ancient Greenlander+Xirong, Mongolian Altai Kurgans (R1a-z93 mixed with Q1a2a1-L54) and possibly Afantova.

Haplogroup R ( Russians,,French,,Germans,,British )
Time of origin : 26,800 years ago
Place of origin : Central Asia
This is the first time i'm hearing of y dna R being associated with turkic populations. That isn't really the mainstream view. For the most part R1a and R1b have been considered as a marker of indo-european decent.
Then again this is ydna (paternal). i don't like going to deep into it all since it gets very murky very fast.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml
 
This is the first time i'm hearing of y dna R being associated with turkic populations. That isn't really the mainstream view. For the most part R1a and R1b have been considered as a marker of indo-european decent.
Then again this is ydna (paternal). i don't like going to deep into it all since it gets very murky very fast.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/origins_haplogroups_europe.shtml


then watch and educate yourself
Genetic history of P1-M45: Proto-Turkic ancestors of Europeans, Native Americans and Indians
 
Anyone who is an Iranian patriot can understand why those responses were given to the troll who insulted Iran. And only facts were said in response to the baseless claims by that troll. If some minorities feel insulted by those comments and do not have "gheirat" to defend their fellow compatriots, let them feel insulted.
I understand but my only point is it's best not to unintentionally aid a foreign hostile intention to turn Iranians against each other to divide Iran into different states and destroy Iran from the inside out...
 
https://www.rt.com/news/470859-syria-army-turkey-agression/
if this is true then a disaster is going to happen . two muslim armies are going to kill each other. and the responsibility goes to turkish arrogance. they are falling pray to zionists plans. once again they have succeeded in making muslims fight against each other and destroy each other.

Have you seen the videos where this "muslim" army of Assad's mocks the Qur'an? The video where they tried to force an old man to drink some liquid (probably urine in a bottle) even though he was fasting? Or read about the the 10,000s of Muslim women who this army has raped and the 100,000s of Muslims they have killed?

The real Muslims deserted Assad a long time ago. All those are left fighting for him are scum of the earth.

The Turks are head and shoulders over the regime. Not everything is a zionist plot bro.
 

This operation will be carried out under the coordination of the Turkish Armed Forces without the direct support of a second country. Therefore, the operation deserves a title with its name, not with the rhetoric of other countries.

'950 IS supporters escape Syria camp because of Turkey'
 
Escape or set free? It's not the first time YPG threat to release ISIS terrorists if Turkey attacks.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/20/world/middleeast/isis-syria-prisoner-release-trump.html

Cuz the escaped ISIS terrorist were from the Ain Issa camp, the town still has US presence and a US Military
base is nearby.

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update2: A top Turkish official warns of bigger escalation now that Syrian Army units appear to be heading to besieged Kurdish towns along the border with Turkey.

Erdogan aide Yasin Aktay has said "conflict between the two armies" is likely if pro-Assad forces enter the northeast region which has now been abandoned by US troops.


Ali Özkök@Ozkok_A

https://twitter.com/Ozkok_A/status/1183470090500694016

#Erdogan's adviser Yasin Aktay spoke to the Russian news agency Sputnik Arabic:

"If the Syrian Army tries to enter the northeast of #Syria, #Turkey will resist. It may come to a conflict between the two armies."


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Danny Makki, a well-known war correspondent in Damascus.

This as multiple videos have spread online showing pro-Damascus forces entering Manbij:


Sotiri Dimpinoudis@sotiridi

https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1183446572631236612
Replying to @sotiridi

#Update: Also another video of this Syrian Arab Army #SAA convoy advancing near into #Manbij with tanks also spotted in this convoy to help #SDF and #YPG forces drive the Turkish aggression out of #Syria. #Turkey




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Erdogan has reportedly vowed that pro-Turkish forces will continue their advance despite the Syrian Army apparently coming to the defense of besieged Kurdish forces.


Danny Makki@Dannymakkisyria

https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/status/1183453458554413056

What we know so far about Syrian army deployment in N. #Syria so far#Manbej #Kobani#Shiekhmaqsoud
All to be entered this evening #Qamishly #Hasakeh

Reports of gradual control within 48 hours


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It's as yet unclear what the Russian military's role in supporting its Syrian ally will be; however, we could be witnessing the beginnings of Putin's 'deal of the century' unfolding, as we explained previously.


Joshua Landis

✔@joshua_landis

https://twitter.com/joshua_landis/status/1183449659324416000

Putin is capitalizing on the chaotic retreat of the US & Turkey's brutality toward the Kurds in order to assert Russia's leadership. He contrasts how Russia has stood beside its beleaguered ally, Syria, while the US has abandoned both its allies, the Kurds and the Turks. https://twitter.com/ivan8848/status/1183009437742747648 …

ivan@ivan8848

PUTIN: ¨Syria must be free from other states military presence and the and territorial integrity the Syrian Arab Republic must be completely restored. ¨#Syria #Kurds #Turkey #OperationSpringPeace




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But Russia is most definitely a lead player in the Damascus-YPG (and SDF) reunion that now appears to be unfolding.


Danny Makki@Dannymakkisyria

https://twitter.com/Dannymakkisyria/status/1183459639087845380

#Russia now confirmed as the chief power-broker in #Syria https://twitter.com/JennyCafarella/status/1183455113991655425 …

Jennifer Cafarella

✔@JennyCafarella
Replying to @JennyCafarella
Negotiations at #Russia's Hmeimim Airbase in Latakiahttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-turkey-kurds-damascus/exclusive-damascus-kurdish-led-sdf-held-talks-at-russian-airbase-kurdish-politician-idUSKBN1WS0MY …


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A huge development after earlier in the day Sunday Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced Trump has ordered a "deliberate withdrawal" of 1,000 US troops in northeast Syria amid the advancing Turkish incursion: sources close to the Syrian government have announced the Syrian Army will move in to assist Kurdish militias in Kobani and Manbij.

This after shocking statements over the weekend by the head of the US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), Mazlum Abdi, who told CNN, "I've been holding myself for two days from going to the press and saying that America abandoned us and that I would like you to get out of our areas now so that I can invite Russian and [Syrian] regime planes to take over this airspace."

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Syrian Army, via AFP/Getty
Reuters now reports on the significant development which could see the Turkish and Syrian armies enter into direct confrontation: "The Lebanese broadcaster al-Mayadeen said on Sunday the Syrian army would deploy within 48 hours to the town of Kobani which is held by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces and the nearby town of Manbij which is controlled by SDF-aligned forces."

"The Syrian Governmental Forces (SAA) are preparing to enter the region of Kobani today, based on an agreement with the Syrian Democratic Forces," Syrian official Mohammed Shaheen, was cited as saying.

As early as last week the SDF was reportedly engaged in intensifying talks with Damascus over assistance from the Syrian Army, after the US withdrew its air support for the Kurdish-led group amid the Turkish assault.

On Monday the commander of the US trained and armed SDF, Mazlum Abdi, indicated just that in a bombshell statement: “We are considering a partnership with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, with the aim of fighting Turkish forces.”

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Though Damascus has yet to confirm an official deal with YPG/SDF forces, state-run SANA did say on Sunday that national forces were moving north to "confront" Turkish forces and its "aggression".

Military analysis site, The Defense Post, reports on the potential direct cooperation between the Syrian Army and SDF to push out the Turks:

Kobani official General Ismet Sheikh Hasan said that Russian and Syrian government troops could enter Kobani and Manbij by Sunday night to help secure the cities from a Turkish incursion.

“We did everything we could,” he said. “We have called upon the West [and] the Arab Union but no one is coming to help, so we have no one other than ourselves to defend [Kobani]. Kurdish youth should come and defend their homes, and people should not abandon their homes – this is our land. It looks like this is the fate of the Kurds, to go through this each time.”


Babak Taghvaee@BabakTaghvaee

https://twitter.com/BabakTaghvaee/status/1183439265696493568
Replying to @BabakTaghvaee

#BREAKING: Official statement of #Syria Arab Army: Soon, the #SAA will enter #Qamishli, #Manbij & other cities to prevent their fall into hands of #Turkish backed terrorists. They will also confront terrorists in Ras al-Ayn & Tal Abyad.#SAA defends the Kurds against #Erdogan




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Damascus officials had subsequently denied that it was engaged in a wide-ranging deal, however, Sunday's reported development of Syrian Army forces to the north could be the beginning of a more significant deal in the words.

The United States has blocked such talks and cooperation for years, but the White House now appears ready to wash its hands of the matter.

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LOL The Western nations are banking on Russian/Syrian help now that they have been red-faced and humiliated for not being there for their PKK brothers.

It is ironic how the Western world is being forced to cheerlead Assad and Russians which they despise so much.

Not that it will make any difference to Turkey’s advancements.

LOL the PKK terrorists are now begging and seeking assistance from the very forces that humiliated and destroyed them not so long ago.
 
Malaysians and so I will support them when they need me.

Pakistan in Indonesian side when 1965 confrontation. Wkwkk while malaysia is helped by indian. Thats politic can change side.....

Oot

Any update about advance?
 
There may be no news til morning. It goes quiet at this time.
 
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