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Quaid-e-Azam aka Mohd Ali Jinnah couldn't read or write Urdu, the official language of Pakistan. Urdu later became one of the reasons behind separation of Bangladesh. The fact was recorded in many books that Jinnah was not comfortable with either Urdu or Bangla.

But Jinnah was fluent in Gujarati. He could read as well as write Gujarati, his mother tongue. Jinnah was a native of Paneli — not far from Gandhiji's birthplace Porbandar. It is often said the issue of Partition boiled down to these two Kathiawadis.

Even though Quaid did not know Urdu his passion for Pakistan was enough to connect to people who could not understand him thoroughly and create the nation of Pakistan . Jinnah proved that in order to be successful in Pakistan you don't need to know Urdu, but all you need is a deep desire for Pakistan, which Jinnah had
 
Well, despite the fact that his passion and commitment with the cause Indian Muslims could not be questioned and his honesty was above board, he was not a good politician rather he was a statesman far better than the contemporary politicians. The problem is that he was an extremely arrogant person and showed inflexibility at times when political bending-snapping would have been more appropriate. Eventually, people of sub-continent ended up suffering from the unforeseen consequences that no-one ever imagined. Though Nehru was to blame for the failure of Cabinet Mission's proposal of creating a so called confederation instead of an all out partition, I still believe that Cabinet Mission's proposal was the best option offered to Muslims of India that would have kept integrity of Muslim cause in the subcontinent very much intact. Knowing or knowing Urdu wouldn't matter!
 
Quaid-e-Azam aka Mohd Ali Jinnah couldn't read or write Urdu, the official language of Pakistan. Urdu later became one of the reasons behind separation of Bangladesh. The fact was recorded in many books that Jinnah was not comfortable with either Urdu or Bangla.

But Jinnah was fluent in Gujarati. He could read as well as write Gujarati, his mother tongue. Jinnah was a native of Paneli — not far from Gandhiji's birthplace Porbandar. It is often said the issue of Partition boiled down to these two Kathiawadis.

Even though Quaid did not know Urdu his passion for Pakistan was enough to connect to people who could not understand him thoroughly and create the nation of Pakistan . Jinnah proved that in order to be successful in Pakistan you don't need to know Urdu, but all you need is a deep desire for Pakistan, which Jinnah had

You clearly don't know the reason why Urdu was chosen as the official language. It was chosen cause it was the neutral language between all provinces.Quaide never wanted today's bangladesh to be part of pakistan period. Even if Bengali was the official language Bangladesh still was going to seperate.
 
Well, despite the fact that his passion and commitment with the cause Indian Muslims could not be questioned and his honesty was above board, he was not a good politician rather he was a statesman far better than the contemporary politicians. The problem is that he was an extremely arrogant person and showed inflexibility at times when political bending-snapping would have been more appropriate. Eventually, people of sub-continent ended up suffering from the unforeseen consequences that no-one ever imagined. Though Nehru was to blame for the failure of Cabinet Mission's proposal of creating a so called confederation instead of an all out partition, I still believe that Cabinet Mission's proposal was the best option offered to Muslims of India that would have kept integrity of Muslim cause in the subcontinent very much intact. Knowing or knowing Urdu wouldn't matter!
Jinnah's commitment cannot be questioned but you are way of the mark with other stuff about him. Jinnah was a good negotiator and a politician than a statesman. You would imagine a statesman would get respect from people across all sections. Whatever Jinnah achieved was because of his inflexibility not despite it. He would never have achieved any bit of Pakistan if he bent a little. His brinkmanship, vicious politics and blackmail(don't give us freedom if the Pakistan question is not settled) was what brought him his success. He could not have bent. Its like backing down in a poker game. His opponents would have read the cards and called his bluff if he showed any sign of genuine desire to see a united India.

Nehru should not be blamed for failure of Cabinet Mission Plan. It was a shi**y plan. Only people who think one Muslim = x Hindus find it sensible. It would be a loose-loose for India. Consider what would have happened by the plan. Entire Bengal and Punjab would be with Muslim states with Delhi at borders. Which means more territory to muslim states plus the ability to secede at a later time. Jinnah was ready to make secession impossible by law, but seriously what is exactly impossible?

There would be three levels of governance with the national legislature having equal number of muslims and hindus which is ridiculous. Now you also see why I said curbs on secession would be a joke. We would have become like Bosnia-Herzegovina with a president for Hindus and a president for Muslims both having veto over every issue. If you are calling the present state in India and Pakistan as policy paralysis, I shudder to think what would have happened then. Such a confederation is BS. The joke in all this is that even Jinnah did not believe in a confederation. That is why he wanted a strong Centre for the muslim states even though his constituents like the Punjab CM was pushing for stronger states(In fact this is with what Jinnah used to scare muslims states into supporting him. The argument that a Hindu PM will make them slaves).

No wonder then that strong proponents of united India like Gandhi also saw the reasoning.

Jinnah's not knowing Urdu was a tragedy for Pakistan. I will comment on a different post.

You clearly don't know the reason why Urdu was chosen as the official language. It was chosen cause it was the neutral language between all provinces.Quaide never wanted today's bangladesh to be part of pakistan period. Even if Bengali was the official language Bangladesh still was going to seperate.
That is incorrect. You are saying that with a sour grapes attitude. Qauid wanted Bangladesh. He actually wanted the whole of the then Punjab and the then Bengal. Bengali was made the official language of Pakistan by 1956. But the other burning issues were like the discrimination against East Pakistan in expenditure even though they had higher population basically rejecting population based allocation.

Up until 4 years ago, the same population proportion principle was used by Punjab to grab majority share in taxes from the other provinces even though the highest taxes are collected from Karachi. We all know the causus belli for Bangladesh as well. It was not just a military dictator that rejected Mujib's mandate but also a democratic politician who would have stayed a long time in Pakistani politics.
 
Urdu was chosen because its has no ethnic color to it. It was a language that could've worked for everyone and it does. Now every Pakistani who has been to school can speak Urdu. Bangladesh's language movement was a political ploy cooked by India to instigate agitation, the people never cared much about Bangla or Urdu. Currency from that time and official documents clearly show that Bangla had official status in both parts of the country. Again the reasons for 71 debacle are political as we should have given the East Pakistan autonomy over its matters except foreign policy, economy and defense. We were lead by men of straw and traitors who had no vision and therefore lead us into an unnecessary civil war.
 
You clearly don't know the reason why Urdu was chosen as the official language. It was chosen cause it was the neutral language between all provinces.Quaide never wanted today's bangladesh to be part of pakistan period. Even if Bengali was the official language Bangladesh still was going to seperate.

Why did he accept East Pakistan then ?
 
Nor did he wish to turn the nation into some theocratic state with wrong priorities, right?
 
You clearly don't know the reason why Urdu was chosen as the official language. It was chosen cause it was the neutral language between all provinces.Quaide never wanted today's bangladesh to be part of pakistan period. Even if Bengali was the official language Bangladesh still was going to seperate.

How come it was a neutral language when almost the whole government was comprised of Urdu Speaking immigrants and the whole Urban Sindh was cleansed of its Hindu population and replaced with immigrants from northern India whose mother tongue was Urdu?
 
How come it was a neutral language when almost the whole government was comprised of Urdu Speaking immigrants and the whole Urban Sindh was cleansed of its Hindu population and replaced with immigrants from northern India whose mother tongue was Urdu?
Wtf did I just read.
Dude. Like seriously are you dumb or something?
Except for FATA and some parts of Balochistan, literally every Pakistani knows Urdu.
Even in India most south people probably understand Hindi.
Bangladeshis and Nepalis also understand the language.
Urdu/Hindi is a common language not just in Pakistan but in entire subcontinent so that's why it's a 'neutral' language.
And secondly Hindu populace was never wiped out.
If they wanted to stay they could stay if they wanted to wilfully move to India then it was their own choice.
And regarding govt there were more immigrants because at that time the immigrant population had a literacy rate of 70% thus it was the most educated community and since it was also the most patriotic it also was most befit to lead the country on the path of development.
 
Wtf did I just read.
Dude. Like seriously are you dumb or something?
Except for FATA and some parts of Balochistan, literally every Pakistani knows Urdu.
Even in India most south people probably understand Hindi.
Bangladeshis and Nepalis also understand the language.
Urdu/Hindi is a common language not just in Pakistan but in entire subcontinent so that's why it's a 'neutral' language.
And secondly Hindu populace was never wiped out.
If they wanted to stay they could stay if they wanted to wilfully move to India then it was their own choice.
And regarding govt there were more immigrants because at that time the immigrant population had a literacy rate of 70% thus it was the most educated community and since it was also the most patriotic it also was most befit to lead the country on the path of development.

Firstly I don't care what language south or north or east or west Indians speak, secondly people will also speak Japanese if you impose it on them, thirdly that was not my question.
 
I agree!!
A Pakistani friend of mine confessed that its hard to cuss someone in urdu, which is good. :)

Excuse me! Urdu is laden with expletives and even in remote areas of FATA Pashtuns have to resort to Urdu curse words to make sure that the other person is really feeling insulted. There are no equivalents for those Urdu exmpletives in Pashto. The more Urdu is penetrating in these areas the more its people are behaving like lalookhetis.
 
Excuse me! Urdu is laden with expletives and even in remote areas of FATA Pashtuns have to resort to Urdu curse words to make sure that the other person is really feeling insulted. There are no equivalents for those Urdu exmpletives in Pashto. The more Urdu is penetrating in these areas the more its people are behaving like lalookhetis.
@qamar1990
I might need your help here.
 

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