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http://nationalinterest.org/feature...ebb 5-9&utm_term=Editorial - Early Bird Brief


In 2015, John Bolton laid out a clear plan to stop Iran from building a nuclear arsenal. He declared in the New York Times, “The inescapable conclusion is that Iran will not negotiate away its nuclear program. Nor will sanctions block its building a broad and deep weapons infrastructure. The inconvenient truth is that only military action like Israel’s 1981 attack on Saddam Hussein’s Osirak reactor in Iraq or its 2007 destruction of a Syrian reactor, designed and built by North Korea, can accomplish what is required. Time is terribly short, but a strike can still succeed.” The deal, in other words, was that there could be no deal.

Now Bolton has won. Regime change is in. Negotiations are out. In abrogating the nuclear agreement today at the White House, President Trump sided with Bolton, who stood nearby along with Vice President Mike Pence, another longtime foe of the accord. All that was missing from Trump’s remarks was a reference to an end to evil.


None of Trump’s actions or rhetoric should come as much of a surprise. Despite his talk about America First, Trump has always been first and foremost a hawk. And throughout, Trump has made his disdain for the accord and hawkishness about Iran plain. “Horrible” and “insane” are a few of the terms that he has employed to describe the deal. The reason for his loathing seems plain enough. It was negotiated by Barack Obama. Trump also bridled at the adult daycare center that former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and former National Security Advisor H. R. McMaster tried to run. The result was that Trump engaged in his personal form of regime change, replacing them with such stalwart hawks as Mike Pompeo and Bolton.

Bolton, who has been thirsting for redemption ever since the George W. Bush administration—when the Senate refused to confirm him for the post of UN ambassador—hit it big with Trump. So ham-handed was McMaster that even Bolton’s celebrated moustache no longer proved an impediment to his ascension. By April, with both Tillerson and McMaster gone, Trump had removed any internal obstacles to jettisoning the Iran accord.

But whether Trump will actually take any tough actions remains an open question. It’s easier to talk about regime change than to create it. Trump’s remarks today were a case in point. “The United States no longer makes empty threats,” Trump said. But he never really said what he was threatening. A land invasion of Iran? A bombing campaign? Booting Iran out of the SWIFT international banking agreement? For his part, Bolton said that the administration will pursue the toughest line possible to strangle the Iranian economy: “The decision that the president signed today puts sanctions back in place immediately. ... We're out of the deal."

Trump defended his move by stating that it would help avert a nuclear Middle East: “If I allowed this deal to stand, there would soon be a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.” But the opposite seems more likely. If Iran redoubles its efforts, then Saudi Arabia and other countries will seek their own deterrent, as soon as possible. The prospect that Iran will be willing to negotiate a new deal now that Washington has unilaterally abrogated the current one seems minuscule. Hardliners are sure to declare that the old one constituted a form of naïve appeasement to the West. Better to seek to build a deterrent and ensure the security of the regime.

Perhaps the most important effect of Trump’s move is that he has now put his own stamp on the administration’s Middle East policy. He, and he alone, must now take responsibility for the course that America is charting in this turbulent, violent and hostile region. The political stakes could not be higher. Trump will now be measured by the success or failure of his approach to both Iran and North Korea. Coming weeks will show whether he really seeks a policy of rollback or containment.

Democrats immediately declared that Trump’s Iran move was, as Sen. Dick Durbin put it, a “mistake of historic proportions.” Sen. Mark Warner lamented that the Trump has created a “wedge between us and our allies.” Meanwhile, tensions with Europe are going to rise dramatically. Trump’s new ambassador to Germany, Richard Grenell, issued what amounted to a diktat on Twitter today: “As @realDonaldTrump said, US sanctions will target critical sectors of Iran’s economy. German companies doing business in Iran should wind down operations immediately.”

The Europeans will try to maintain the accord, but their chances of success are slender indeed. None of French president Emmanuel Macron’s air kisses were enough to help dissuade Trump from saying au revoir to the deal and British foreign minister Boris Johnson, who flitted aimlessly around Washington for the past few days seeking an audience with Trump, was reduced to tweeting today, “Deeply regret US decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal. UK remains strongly committed to the JCPoA, and will work with E3 partners and the other parties to the deal to maintain it. Await more detail on US plan.” He may be awaiting awhile.
 
John Bolton is one of those Christian fanatics that play a major role in US support for Israel. Trump is doing all this to please his banker masters. Remember Trump is an orange buffoon with some sort of mental illness, there is no way he can comprehend anything as sophisticated as a nuclear deal.
 
John Bolton is one of those Christian fanatics that play a major role in US support for Israel. Trump is doing all this to please his banker masters. Remember Trump is an orange buffoon with some sort of mental illness, there is no way he can comprehend anything as sophisticated as a nuclear deal.

Good one bro ..
he is surrounded by neocons nutcase too .. he can't even figure out a basic facts let alone get any idea on the politics of the world's difficult region .
 
Hijacking Lebanon, interfering in Afghanistan, murdering British and American forces in Iraq, waging war in Yemen, tried to foment trouble in Bahrain, in up to their necks in Syrian war, trying to take over Gaza.

This is what Iran is doing. How on earth can you accuse others of wanting war :lol:?
 
John Bolton is one of those Christian fanatics that play a major role in US support for Israel. Trump is doing all this to please his banker masters. Remember Trump is an orange buffoon with some sort of mental illness, there is no way he can comprehend anything as sophisticated as a nuclear deal.

I think the orange baboon has full and total understanding of what is going on. He is guilty and complicit. These decisions are his own and Trump is a Zionist slave. Bolton or others are just irrelivant whisperers.

Trump is a b@stard seed. He is scum. He has revealed his true being during and after the elections.

I am very happy that the world is finally witnessing the true face of inbred Americans. Trump is the full embodiment of the USA.
 
Hijacking Lebanon, interfering in Afghanistan, murdering British and American forces in Iraq, waging war in Yemen, tried to foment trouble in Bahrain, in up to their necks in Syrian war, trying to take over Gaza.

This is what Iran is doing. How on earth can you accuse others of wanting war :lol:?
what hijacking in Lebanon, as far as I'm aware nobody claimed we interfered with Lebanon election , anything happened there is Lebanese people doing.
about Afghanistan ,well its clear who is interfering there . as a matter of fact since Qajar Eran even a single Iranian soldiers didn't put their feet on Afghanistan soil.

Waging war in Yemen ? what are you smoking from where you are buying it , it most be very potent.
about Bahrain if people of Bahrain are dissatisfied with their government what it has to do with us , by the way if as you say we can smuggle missile to Yemen be assured if we interfered in Bahrain right knew some family were in exile in KSA.
we are invited to Syria by its legitimate and recognized government .
Trying to take over Gaza ? you mistake us with their eastern neighbor.
 
what hijacking in Lebanon, as far as I'm aware nobody claimed we interfered with Lebanon election , anything happened there is Lebanese people doing.
about Afghanistan ,well its clear who is interfering there . as a matter of fact since Qajar Eran even a single Iranian soldiers didn't put their feet on Afghanistan soil.

Waging war in Yemen ? what are you smoking from where you are buying it , it most be very potent.
about Bahrain if people of Bahrain are dissatisfied with their government what it has to do with us , by the way if as you say we can smuggle missile to Yemen be assured if we interfered in Bahrain right knew some family were in exile in KSA.
we are invited to Syria by its legitimate and recognized government .
Trying to take over Gaza ? you mistake us with their eastern neighbor.

Ah yes, innocent Iran. Uses proxies to do all its dirty work and then claims innocence. We're not fooled.

You've taken over Lebanon with Hezbollah. You even settled southern Lebanon on purpose because it bordered Israel.

You provided weapons to Shia militias in Iraq. This was proven and traced back to Iran. As you're doing in Yemen too.

Everyone in the region knows what you're up to. The only people you fool are Eurotrash leftists who love Iran simply for being anti-American.
 
I think the orange baboon has full and total understanding of what is going on. He is guilty and complicit. These decisions are his own and Trump is a Zionist slave. Bolton or others are just irrelivant whisperers.

Trump is a b@stard seed. He is scum. He has revealed his true being during and after the elections.

I am very happy that the world is finally witnessing the true face of inbred Americans. Trump is the full embodiment of the USA.

And the Irony is Putin and his buddies in Syria and Iran were celebrating trump's election victory as their victory too. This is how it is if you dig a hole for others Almighty or some people say fate will dig a bigger hole for you but sometimes it takes time.
 
The jews & neo cons are a venomous lot, their was a reason societies for centuries have risen up and tried to cleanse society of them

One thing i will say Iran has no excuse not to be ready for war they have had plenty of warning
 
There is a huge difference between the Iraqi and Syrian reactors attacked before..and the Iranian reactor.. the former two were not online yet, while the latter went online for a few years now.. any attack on it will be similar in its radiations' consequences to a nuclear attack.. So that is out of the question..

There will be no war but very harsh sanctions to put enough pressure on Iran to give up its missile program and its expansion in the the neighbourhood.. if not to provoke a counter-revolution that will lead to the same results..
 
Looks like it.

Donald Trump seems to be completely insane, along with being a narcissist and a psychopath.

It wouldn't surprise me at all, if the US/NATO/Israel believed that Iran was close to 90% enrichment that they would decide to go for a full-scale invasion of Iran. Maybe not with someone like Obama, but with the insane orange baboon it is entirely possible.

US will enter another quagmire just like Iraq for the next 1-2 decades, giving China and Russia another 1-2 decades of strategic freedom to build up and consolidate power over the South China Sea and Eastern Europe respectively.
 
US will enter another quagmire just like Iraq for the next 1-2 decades, giving China and Russia another 1-2 decades of strategic freedom to build up and consolidate power over the South China Sea and Eastern Europe respectively.

Americans don't plan to get bugged down in this quagmire for long at all. As Trump has already demanded costs of upcoming escalations in ME will be paid by Saudis out of their pockets since they wont survive even 2 weeks without the American support. They gonna keep sanctions until something somewhere breaks. That's that, or in some remote distance chance the regime might take any deal from US that let them survive.

The Americans long term strategic goal is to " Pivot to Asia " and confront & contain China with a coalition of willing countries. They know better not to get too bogged down in ME because the real threat is coming from Asia not ME. They just wanna secure strategic energy sources in ME under their influence to be priced in USD and not Chinese Yuan for very obvious reasons.


Donald Trump declares trade war on China
https://www.ft.com/content/dd2af6b0-4fc1-11e8-9471-a083af05aea7

The US side demands the following “concrete and verifiable actions”

China is to reduce the US-China trade imbalance by $100bn in the 12 months beginning June 1 2018, and by another $100bn in the 12 months beginning June 1 2019.
China should also immediately eliminate all “market-distorting subsidies” conducive to excess capacity. It will strengthen intellectual property and eliminate technology-related requirements for joint ventures.
“Furthermore, China agrees to . . . cease the targeting of [US] technology and intellectual property through cyber operations, economic espionage, counterfeiting and piracy. China also agrees to abide by US export control laws.”

Moreover, China will withdraw requests for World Trade Organization consultations relating to tariff actions on intellectual property. “In addition, China will not take any retaliatory action . . . in response to actions taken or to be taken by the US, including any new US restrictions . . . China immediately will cease all retaliatory actions currently being pursued.”
China “will not oppose, challenge, or . . . retaliate against US imposition of restrictions on investments from China in sensitive US technology sectors or sectors critical to US national security”. But “US investors in China must be afforded fair, effective and non-discriminatory market access and treatment, including removal of . . . foreign investment restrictions and foreign ownership/shareholding requirements”.

By July 1 2020, China will reduce tariffs in “non-critical sectors to levels that are no higher than” equivalent US tariffs. It will also open access to services and farm products as the US specifies. The agreement is to be monitored quarterly. Should the US conclude that China is not in compliance, it may impose tariffs or import restrictions. China “will not oppose, challenge or take any form of action against” any such US impositions. China will also withdraw its WTO complaint that it is not being treated as a market economy.
 
The Americans long term strategic goal is to " Pivot to Asia " and confront & contain China with a coalition of willing countries.

That's true, the USA sees China as their true long-term rival. Along with Russia.

However, they keep getting bogged down in the Middle East. War after war, invasion after invasion. They are dropping a bomb every few minutes there as we speak.

And it looks like that isn't going to change anytime soon. Trump and Netanyahu are gearing up for another big war in the Middle East, against the country they both claim is behind everything wrong in the Middle East (which is in truth the USA itself, however they won't invade themselves).

Iran had a chance to build up a strong nuclear arsenal, but they fudged it up. Now US/NATO/Arabs/Israel are all watching Iran like a hawk, whenever Netanyahu believes Iran is close to 90% enrichment, they are going to go full throttle.
 
Americans don't plan to get bugged down in this quagmire for long at all. As Trump has already demanded costs of upcoming escalations in ME will be paid by Saudis out of their pockets since they wont survive even 2 weeks without the American support. They gonna keep sanctions until something somewhere breaks. That's that, or in some remote distance chance the regime might take any deal from US that let them survive.

The Americans long term strategic goal is to " Pivot to Asia " and confront & contain China with a coalition of willing countries. They know better not to get too bogged down in ME because the real threat is coming from Asia not ME. They just wanna secure strategic energy sources in ME under their influence to be priced in USD and not Chinese Yuan for very obvious reasons.


Donald Trump declares trade war on China
https://www.ft.com/content/dd2af6b0-4fc1-11e8-9471-a083af05aea7

The US side demands the following “concrete and verifiable actions”

China is to reduce the US-China trade imbalance by $100bn in the 12 months beginning June 1 2018, and by another $100bn in the 12 months beginning June 1 2019.
China should also immediately eliminate all “market-distorting subsidies” conducive to excess capacity. It will strengthen intellectual property and eliminate technology-related requirements for joint ventures.
“Furthermore, China agrees to . . . cease the targeting of [US] technology and intellectual property through cyber operations, economic espionage, counterfeiting and piracy. China also agrees to abide by US export control laws.”

Moreover, China will withdraw requests for World Trade Organization consultations relating to tariff actions on intellectual property. “In addition, China will not take any retaliatory action . . . in response to actions taken or to be taken by the US, including any new US restrictions . . . China immediately will cease all retaliatory actions currently being pursued.”
China “will not oppose, challenge, or . . . retaliate against US imposition of restrictions on investments from China in sensitive US technology sectors or sectors critical to US national security”. But “US investors in China must be afforded fair, effective and non-discriminatory market access and treatment, including removal of . . . foreign investment restrictions and foreign ownership/shareholding requirements”.

By July 1 2020, China will reduce tariffs in “non-critical sectors to levels that are no higher than” equivalent US tariffs. It will also open access to services and farm products as the US specifies. The agreement is to be monitored quarterly. Should the US conclude that China is not in compliance, it may impose tariffs or import restrictions. China “will not oppose, challenge or take any form of action against” any such US impositions. China will also withdraw its WTO complaint that it is not being treated as a market economy.
Trump was talking about Qatar.. that has the biggest US base in the ME..KSA can sustain a 10 years war easily on its own, let alone most of the Arabs' 500 million population will side with it as well as a lot of Muslim nations..

Qatar is about 130 000 population!
 

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