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[mohsen]

Just for fun:

نصب پیشرفته*ترین دوربین نظامی جهان روی اسلØ*ه*های تک تیرانداز ایران+عکس - مشرق نیوز | mashreghnews.ir

 

[Mitro]

This weapon system can prove very effective in urban warfare and can easily take on Helicopter from building from far away .
Remember RPG use in Somalia to bring down Black Hawk down.

 

[Hossein2]

no one can shoot a target with this kind of gun from 3 KM .....

Then I think you haven't seen Shaher's shooting test!A sniper from takavar division hits a target almost as small as an orange from a distance of 2km!How couldn't he hit a huge chopper from a longer distance?

 

[Hack-Hook]

no one can shoot a target with this kind of gun from 3 KM .....

come on Saher can penetrate a Humvee from 3km away . it has an effective range of 4km , it mean you can hit target 4km away with this rifle

saher can penetrate 2 inch of rolled steel , I wonder how much this one can peneterate

 

[Uhuhu]

All choppers are not Apache.

and all shots don't mean all choppers should go down.

 

[twilight]

well , shooting a dynamic target is difficult task , and even if we have some wind , it will become even harder to shoot it from 3-4 km ....

shooting an stable target is different from shooting a dynamic one ....

but it is only one of our weapons ... we have so many weapons to make a burning hell for our enemy ....

with this gun , they need to fly higher to avoid an ambush from nowhere and in more high they will become a moving targets for Man pads and if they go to more highs , then every radars will see them ...

this gun will add to the risk of any operations against Iran for any choppers ....

it is good weapon but I don't think we put all of eggs in one basket ...

 

[Hossein2]

well , shooting a dynamic target is difficult task , and even if we have some wind , it will become even harder to shoot it from 3-4 km ....

shooting an stable target is different from shooting a dynamic one ....

but it is only one of our weapons ... we have so many weapons to make a burning hell for our enemy ....

with this gun , they need to fly higher to avoid an ambush from nowhere and in more high they will become a moving targets for Man pads and if they go to more highs , then every radars will see them ...

this gun will add to the risk of any operations against Iran for any choppers ....

it is good weapon but I don't think we put all of eggs in one basket ...

Yes shooting a flying object is certainly more difficult.But it is possible.
من شنيدم تك تيرانداز هاي ارتش بايد بتونن با يك تير ژ-3 پرنده رو در هوا بزنن!!!خودم باورم نميشد تا اينكه يه گوشه اي از توانايي هاشون رو ديدم.و حالا به اين نتيجه رسيدم كه تك تيراندازهاي ارتش جزو بهترين هاي دنيا هستن.و در ضمن توانايي تخمين سرعت باد و تغيير موقعيت نشانه گيري از توانايي هاي پايه اي تك تيراندازها هستش

All choppers are not Apache.

and all shots don't mean all choppers should go down.

How about shooting the pilot in the chest?That sounds painful!And I don't think any Apache would survive in that condition.

 

[Penguin]

and what kind of idiot sniper shoots at those parts?

You might not aim for this yet still hit this, obviously.

 

[Penguin]

well if you look at the tip of the barrel you see why looking for muzzle flash is not a good Idea.
by the way there is ways to blind these infrared detection systems at night. have you seen what happen if at night you are looking through night vision and then somebody decide its good time to fire a flare

From the article referred to in post 14 on page 1 of this thread:

The infrared sensors built into the GFAS system detect muzzle flashes from the ground, allowing Apache pilots to get their sensors on potential targets and immediately know the location, and distance of ground fire, Highley explained.
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The cameras on the aircraft detect the muzzle flash from ground fire - and move the information through an Aircraft Gateway Processor into the cockpit so pilots will see an icon on their display screen, said Lt. Col. Jeff Johnson, product manager, Longbow Apache.

Apache to field ground fire-detection system | Article | The United States Army

The Airborne Weapon Surveillance System (AWSS) is an Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV)-based derivative of the Radiance Weapon Watch system. Radiance has successfully completed an AWSS Joint Capability Technology Demonstration (JCTD) with a foreign partner and is in the process of transitioning this technology through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) process.

Radiance Technologies, Inc. - Airborne Weapon Watch, IRMD, Dark Eyes, HAMPS

WeaponWatch® provides a highly reliable, wide area surveillance capability for the real-time detection, classification, and location of direct and indirect hostile weapon fire with a very high probability of detection and a very low false alarm rate. WeaponWatch can detect and classify small arms, RPGs, mortars, MANPADS, tanks and artillery beyond the effective range of the threat weapon and can process multiple weapons-fire events simultaneously. WeaponWatch can display threat type and location, cue imaging systems and weapons, and support a common operating picture in real-time using existing tactical communications system, radios, and architectures. WeaponWatch can operate standalone or within existing command, control, communications, computers and intelligence (C4I) architectures. System size is 16" x 12" x 8" (W x D x H), weighs 27 lbs and uses less than 400 watts total power. The basic system comes with a WeaponWatch sensor, AC-DC power supply, laptop computer, power switch fuse box, system disks, and and all necessary cables packed in a pelican carrying case. WeaponWatch provides a wide field-of-view (FOV) that is field selectable. Optional imager modules can be added for enhanced imaging and laser ranging.

Radiance Technologies, Inc. - Alarm and Signal/Sensor Systems Product Descriptions

The Ground Fire Acquisition System (GFAS) comprises pods on the tips of the stub wings that each carry three Radiance Technologies WeaponWatch cameras. These can detect, classify and locate the flashes of gunfire and RPG launches and provide threat indications on the Apache's tactical situation display at Army Aviation Association of America (Quad-A) annual bash in Nashville. 2011.

Boeing to adapt WeaponWatch ground-fire acquisition system from Radiance to Apache attack helicopter
April 1, 2012

U.S. Army helicopter aviation experts are moving ahead with a program to fit special infrared sensors aboard the Boeing AH-64D Apache attach helicopter that detect and pinpoint enemy ground fire from rifles, pistols, rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs), and other infantry weapons and quickly train the Apache's weapons on sources of the hostile fire.
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GFAS uses networked infrared sensors to detect muzzle flashes
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WeaponWatch can display threat type and location, cue imaging systems and weapons, and support a common operating picture in real-time using existing tactical radios and other military communications systems

http://www.militaryaerospace.com/ar...rom-radiance-to-apache-attack-helicopter.html

 

[Penguin]

barret 82 + 50cal trace + desert mountain 3-4 miles away + 13 second exposure/f4.0/iso400

 

[Hack-Hook]

barret 82 + 50cal trace + desert mountain 3-4 miles away + 13 second exposure/f4.0/iso400

look at this two picture and tell me whats the difference

for the help
one is this gun

and the other one is this one

for the second the flash from the front even is less that the flash from the side

the key is this small part at the tip of the muzzle (this image belong to another gun)

 

[mohsen]

look at this two picture and tell me whats the difference

for the help
one is this gun

and the other one is this one

for the second the flash from the front even is less that the flash from the side

the key is this small part at the tip of the muzzle (this image belong to another gun)

talking with him is useless, when U.S companies claim about gun flash detection, then every one have to believe and all guns must have flash even if you post the pic and video showing this gun doesn't have, and all of Helicopters crashes in Afghanistan and Iraq have been just accidents ,it has to be cause these are U.S Helicopters.

 

[Penguin]

look at this two picture and tell me whats the difference

for the help
one is this gun
and the other one is this one
for the second the flash from the front even is less that the flash from the side
the key is this small part at the tip of the muzzle (this image belong to another gun)

Original M82

M82A1 rifle, early version, with redesigned muzzle brake

M82A1 rifle, current version, with (detachable) arrowhead shaped reactive muzzle brake.

M82A3 rifle, also known as M82A1M, latest version developed for US Army (with long Picatinny rail on the top of the receiver).

On the earlier models the muzzle brakes were of round cross-section, later M82 rifles are equipped with two chamber brakes of rectangular cross-section. They remain muzzle brakes nonetheless. Are you - possibly - confusing a muzzle brake with a flash guard/suppressor (both barrel mounted but having rather different functions)?

 

[Penguin]

A flash suppressor differs in function from a muzzle brake.
The former is intended to reduce visible flash.
The latter is designed to reduce painful recoil inherent in firing large cartridges.
A muzzle brake typically has no effect on visible flash.
With respect to flash supressors (aka flash guards, flash eliminators, flash hiders, or flash cones), such a rifle-muzzle attached device reduces the visible signature while firing, by cooling or dispersing the burning gases that exit the muzzle, a phenomenon typical of carbine length weapons.
The primary intent of a flash supressor is to reduce the chances that the shooter will be blinded in low light shooting conditions.
Contrary to popular belief, it is only a secondary and minor benefit if a flash suppressor also reduces the intensity of the muzzle flash that may be visible to the enemy.

 

[Penguin]

talking with him is useless, when U.S companies claim about gun flash detection, then every one have to believe and all guns must have flash even if you post the pic and video showing this gun doesn't have, and all of Helicopters crashes in Afghanistan and Iraq have been just accidents ,it has to be cause these are U.S Helicopters.

Thank you ever so much for your considered and balanced opinion. I think you are missing the point of the forum i.e. exchange of ideas (this requires an open mind, a concept obviously lost on you)

Barrett daytime shoot (no apparent flash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAifdFbEEEs

Barret daytime firing in slo-mo (ah, so there IS a flash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u8Ne5ttO7Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B-Z_8UN0u8

Barrett nighttime shoot (no flash, huh?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwgWvoX4Qc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXaxbRy8djc

Just because your eye don't see it doesn't mean it is not there .... (plus, IR sensor will 'see' in different spectrum than your eye)