Gandhara Civilization,Trademark of Pakistan

[utraash]

Ask her about the religion of the ruler too, if she knows.

Arey She is jhola chaap journalist... hardly she would b knowing that...

 

[utraash]

lol you have no knowledge about anything in this world, do you?

Accept whatever he says after all he is pakis else he will becum Zaid Hamid part-2...

 

[Pride]

How does that make a difference as Indian itself is generated from Indus??. If fighting over name then there are No mention of Pakistan in any textbooks 60-70 years ago so lets not discuss about that. Whole world knows 1947 as partition of British India as India and Pak except ofcourse people like you.

One more clarification for You, Pakistan was a land given for Muslims who want to separate state for Muslims, few migrated, few didn't, few made East Pakistan which later changed to Bangladesh. Now before 1971, If India does not have right on Indus valley civilzation then how half of Pakistan (Now B'desh) claims Gandhara/ Indus valley civilization?? Migration of people and current land does not authorize cultural heritage for respective era as land changes people come and go.

Right, India was not there but Indus was there Indus civilization was there.There were group of kingdoms were there which were called as India and that is why in 1400 AD Columbus was in search of India and not Kamboj/Gandhar. This is also evident why Red Indians/Indiana states were on name of Indians because of mistakes made by explorer. Oops no Pakistan here again same India!!

Sir,

The word indus river civilization as you are puting it is a misnomer----the civilizations relating to a river were spread maybe 5 ---10 at the most 25 miles away---the last one---I very much doubt it unless there were neighbourinbg rivers---but then as our forefathers were of extremely enterprising nature to rule and to conquer--they spread away from their center----but the true "BLUE BLUEBLOOD" would have remained in the viccinity of the land of their forefathers---and that civilization would have stayed as indus river civilization. It stayed as such for others---like those wanderer story tellers----who when they went back to their motherlands would talk about this land and only thing the people could relate to was indus river civilization and not brahmaputra or ganges civilization---which they could not comprehend or relate to.

So, for the story teller and the listener---everything from this area became indus river civilization---which truly it was not as it came out---even though the people from the region now known as india want to ride the wave of taking it as such. Ganges and brahmaputra and other civilizations are equally important to the local----but being not known and acknowledged the world wide---don't bring a lot to the table----so the people from bharat as they are, want to be related to something important and want to ride the wave that was never theirs to ride----the name---indus river civilization.

But incidently---as the land had so many invaders coming in hordes and driving the locals further down over for thousands of years---one then needs to ask the true identity of who really was what they claimed to be----but as we see that the last invasion of our lands was as recent as in the 1700 and 1800's and the conquerers stayed till 1947 and even after the big migration of people at that time, we have a problem of sorts of identity and sovereignty.

One wants revenge for the 800 years rule and subjugation---the other wants the old glory back---. Is it just like iran---what was the religion before islam---that period of glory---to whom does it belong----or even egypt----where does muslim egypt stand next to the pharaoh's egypt---. Are our problems similiar to those of these two nations---is our geography and history similiar to theirs---not at all.

So---if the rajah of gandhara was a hindu----the question to be asked is that what was his place of birth---chennai---kolkata---mumbai----peshawar or areas around it----or what----

I liked your post in most of the part, It is just insane to claim of history and valuation based on local areas where they dont connect themselves to. Regarding civilizations like Iran or Egypt, respect is disjointly for cultural and religion and which should be. For an e.g. if we take a study of Bangla Desh (Leaving all irrelevant discussion of 1971 war/suppression) Then their cultural dominance overtook religion and hence it doesn't matter for residents to speak Bangla Language based on Pali, Anthem by Rabindra Nath and other Bangla cultural dominance . It does not impact their religious impact. This also does not disconnect them with India Bengali culture. If you analyze same is true for Sri lanka, Malaysia and others.

Now lets come back to Pakistan and its civilzation, Pakistan is and Islamic Republic and their hard liners dont want something related to Hindu/ Hinduism or Sikhism as that is pagan. This is the reason even when Taliban broke Bamiyan Buddha's Idol in Afghanistan, Pakistan did not stopped their ally. There are very less people who understand migration theory and impact of the same. The genetic roots of most of the claimaint of histories takes them either to Central asia (There were long discussion about that) and a very minute set of people in Pakistan does belong to the old Aryan roots. So if Genetically or religiously or culturally ignorants does not want to understand this is a shared history or want to believe there was something called India before 1947 and Having claim on Mughals/Sikhs/Hindus, culture/religious symbols only for specific areas are only lunatics.

If I go by theories suggested by others here then Lahore was based on Lord Rama's son as he ruled on this area so then you will claim Lord Rama as a part of your history. If you claim alone that then I have no issues, but then it is not streamlined as per Ideology of Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

 

[aks18]

I envy you man,u r so lucky to have been under the influence of some classic historical brainwash.

Brain wash or conspiracy theory against Indian civilization

 

[Banana]

Some cultural diffusion. Sure. Fine. No problem. And still doesn't change the fact Indus was the core of IVC and its primary descendents live in modern day Pakistan.

What if Pakistan was annihilated by Indira Gandhi in 1971?

What will you call then?

It became Indian Civilization?

Right?