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Niazi, following his C in C had become highly immoral. He had lost total moral standing with his command. The people were of course totally alienated because of the atrocities that continued. There was no way Niazi could have been victorious.But had he been morally upright, personally disciplined and if he had even the slightest professional competence of a general, he could have fought on to save face and avoid ignominy in history. It was idiotic to try and fight for space under the huge adverse conditions that he himself had created. Supposing he had traded space to protect his strength. If he had adjusted his deployment evacuating from the W of Brahmaputra-Meghna, he could have fought on for some weeks more. He had huge resources still left - only to be surrendered to IA. We do not know of any attempt by him to exploit Pakistan's relations with the Mizos and Nagas to protect a flank.Niazi was a disgrace not only to the uniform he wore but to all soldiers everywhere.
 
Niazi, following his C in C had become highly immoral. He had lost total moral standing with his command. The people were of course totally alienated because of the atrocities that continued. There was no way Niazi could have been victorious.But had he been morally upright, personally disciplined and if he had even the slightest professional competence of a general, he could have fought on to save face and avoid ignominy in history. It was idiotic to try and fight for space under the huge adverse conditions that he himself had created. Supposing he had traded space to protect his strength. If he had adjusted his deployment evacuating from the W of Brahmaputra-Meghna, he could have fought on for some weeks more. He had huge resources still left - only to be surrendered to IA. We do not know of any attempt by him to exploit Pakistan's relations with the Mizos and Nagas to protect a flank.Niazi was a disgrace not only to the uniform he wore but to all soldiers everywhere.


What i think if Pakistan didn't attack India and bring India Bangladesh joint force attack insight Bangladesh result could be other if he hold on Dhaka and some surrounding area .
 
Niazi, following his C in C had become highly immoral. He had lost total moral standing with his command. The people were of course totally alienated because of the atrocities that continued. There was no way Niazi could have been victorious.But had he been morally upright, personally disciplined and if he had even the slightest professional competence of a general, he could have fought on to save face and avoid ignominy in history. It was idiotic to try and fight for space under the huge adverse conditions that he himself had created. Supposing he had traded space to protect his strength. If he had adjusted his deployment evacuating from the W of Brahmaputra-Meghna, he could have fought on for some weeks more. He had huge resources still left - only to be surrendered to IA. We do not know of any attempt by him to exploit Pakistan's relations with the Mizos and Nagas to protect a flank.Niazi was a disgrace not only to the uniform he wore but to all soldiers everywhere.

@ First of all General Niazi was not that material to fight independently in Eastern sector. It is true that Niazi fought well in Burma Campaign during 2nd World war. He was in East Bengal during Pakistan times as a Lt Colonel commanding a battalion. He had a good contact with the Bengali's.He knows the sentiments of common Bengali people. He fought well as Brigade Commander in 1965 was probably in khemkaren sector closer to Srinagar ! But one great thing he was lacking ? Thai is he came from Other Ranks means promotee officer. How much you can expect from him ????

@ As a General during the first half of initial resistance by the mutineer he successfully quelled them like a lighting campaign and broke their back bone. But during the second of half he failed to react and take advantage of the local resources.Definitely he had an support.

@ Morally he was shuttered and lost all hopes. He was purely on the mercy on the Western Operation that is, " Security of East Pakistan lies on the West". He also had a faith on the Yellow Force (China).

@ He also involved in corruption in "Pan business", what we heard from "Hamidur Rahman Commission". It was found that during the real crises he was missing from the "Operation Room" and people says he was in the Biharee colonies.May be he was too worried about them. Might be he was hooked up there ?

@ Well, Niazi had a very good relation with the Mizos and Nagas. The whole Mizo Brigade along with their exile Govt was stationed at Rangamati. The whole Chittagong Hill Tract region was under full tight control of Pakistani Forces.No Mukti bahini ever dare to infiltrate in CHT. That was the reason on the 3rd week of December 1971 General Ubam along with his "K" Force, (skeleton of Mujib Bahini was also there) came to CHT and remained here till the last. Even after withdrawal of Indian forces some advisers along with one or two helicopters remained in Chittagong. Incidentally one such helicopter was crushed in Comilla area on night of 15 August 1975. Whether it was a accident or planned action I have no idea but people says that burned bodies of Indian crew and officers were brought back at Dhaka CMH and these bodies were silently sent back to India.

@ O yea ! I remember once General Hamid (C-in-C) visited East Pakistan Niazi gave a contingency plan that "If C-in-C approves that then he is ready to send a strong Commando Force to Calcutta and Raid the selective targets and come back". Impact will be marvelous ! Another plan he had in his mind that his brave forces will infiltrate into India towards west and link up with the western forces. (Dilki bat dilme rai gai)

@ He had a link with Naga rebels. He supplied them some arms and ammunition to them and in turn they carried out some raid and sabotage on the Indian invading columns in the North Eastern sectors. Indian thought that it was the act of razakars/ Al Sams !
 
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Dhaka debacle - myth and reality!
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Bangladesh has demanded an apology from Pakistan for the alleged atrocities committed by Pakistan Army during the 1971 war. It is claimed that nearly three million Bengalis were killed and thousands of women were raped. Nevertheless, Bangladeshi PM Hasina Wajid did not attend the D-8 Summit, in Islamabad, although Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar personally invited her. While the possibility of some excesses in a war-like situation cannot be ruled out, the figures quoted seems to be of mythical proportions.
Another myth bandied around and also subscribed to by some intellectual and political circles in Pakistan is that it was not Mujib, who orchestrated secession of Bangladesh from Pakistan, but the West Pakistani politicians and the army; a conclusion that is based only on the events that followed after the 1970 elections.
Both myths need corroboration by independent sources. these sources, however, do not find the figures of the Bengalis killed during the military action and the number of rapes alleged to have been committed correct. Dr Sarmila Bose, a Bengali intellectual in her book “Dead Reckoning: Memories of the 1971 Bangladesh War”, argued that the number of Bengalis killed in 1971 was not three million, but around 50,000 while Bengalis were equally involved in the bloodshed of non-Bengalis. In regards to the much trumped up Jaysore massacre, she maintained that it was engineered and conducted by Mukti Bahni wearing army uniforms and the charges of rape are based on propaganda as no rape incident occurred at the hands of Pak Army personnel. The contentions of Dr Bose are endorsed by none other than General Manek Shaw, who claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni, who dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also dressed up as civilians and carried out acts of sabotage against the civil and military Government of Pakistan.
Mujib was harbouring the idea of an independent Bangladesh for more than two decades before the 1971 war, which he publicly expressed when the Indian forces occupied East Pakistan, by saying that his dream of 24 years for an ‘Independent Bangladesh’ has been fulfilled. He was a traitor by all definitions of the word.
The Agartala Conspiracy Case instituted by Ayub Khan, which had to be withdrawn under intense pressure from the agitation led by Mualana Abdul Hamid Bhashani in East Pakistan and an unremitting demand by the politicians from the West Wing, was a reality and not a setup to discredit Mujib as claimed by his supporters. The Deputy Speaker of Bangladesh Assembly, Shaukat Ali, who was one of the accused of the Agartala Conspiracy, on a point of order in the Assembly in 2010, confessed that charges read out to them were true stating that they formed a Shangram Parishad under Sheikh Mujib for secession of East Pakistan.
These facts leave no doubt in drawing the inference that India used Mujib to dismember Pakistan by providing training facilities to the Mukti Bahni, conducting murders and rapes to malign Pakistan Army and prepare ground for eventual assault. Tripura was actually the launching pad for offensive against the Pakistan Army for the Mukti Bahni and the Indian army. When Sheikh Hasina visited Tripura from January 11-12 in 2009, a Bangladeshi journalist Haroon Habib in an article published by The Hindu said that by visiting the state she was revisiting history as Tripura was the unofficial headquarter of the war of liberation.
The foregoing facts adequately explode the myths surrounding the Dhaka debacle. It is regrettable to note, however, that despite these irrefutable ground realities a lobby in Pakistan are endorsing the demand made by Bangladesh for an apology and trying to prove Mujib as a patriot based on the autobiography of Mujib; a deliberate and conscious effort to malign Pakistan and its army. The reality - as revealed by General Manek Shaw - is that most of the killings and rapes were carried out by the Hindus recruited by him and the elements hostile to Pakistan.
Pakistan has always looked forward to burying the past and have a cordial relationship with Bangladesh. Former President General Musharraf during his visit to Bangladesh expressed regrets over the tragic incident and urged the need for moving forward and not allowing history to bedevil the relations between the two countries.
Against the backdrop of realities unravelled by independent sources and circumstances surrounding the Dhaka debacle, there is no justification for Bangladesh to demand an apology from Pakistan.

The writer is a freelance columnist. Email: ashpak10@gmail.com
 
Ha ha ha - needed a good laugh. Thanks! :laugh:

In any case who gives two shitz - this was 40+ years ago.

Just move on !
 
Dhaka debacle - myth and reality!
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Bangladesh has demanded an apology from Pakistan for the alleged atrocities committed by Pakistan Army during the 1971 war. It is claimed that nearly three million Bengalis were killed and thousands of women were raped. Nevertheless, Bangladeshi PM Hasina Wajid did not attend the D-8 Summit, in Islamabad, although Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar personally invited her. While the possibility of some excesses in a war-like situation cannot be ruled out, the figures quoted seems to be of mythical proportions.
Another myth bandied around and also subscribed to by some intellectual and political circles in Pakistan is that it was not Mujib, who orchestrated secession of Bangladesh from Pakistan, but the West Pakistani politicians and the army; a conclusion that is based only on the events that followed after the 1970 elections.
Both myths need corroboration by independent sources. these sources, however, do not find the figures of the Bengalis killed during the military action and the number of rapes alleged to have been committed correct. Dr Sarmila Bose, a Bengali intellectual in her book “Dead Reckoning: Memories of the 1971 Bangladesh War”, argued that the number of Bengalis killed in 1971 was not three million, but around 50,000 while Bengalis were equally involved in the bloodshed of non-Bengalis. In regards to the much trumped up Jaysore massacre, she maintained that it was engineered and conducted by Mukti Bahni wearing army uniforms and the charges of rape are based on propaganda as no rape incident occurred at the hands of Pak Army personnel. The contentions of Dr Bose are endorsed by none other than General Manek Shaw, who claimed that he recruited 80,000 Hindus to create the Mukti Bahni, who dressed up in Pakistan Army uniform and raped and pillaged Bengalis. They also dressed up as civilians and carried out acts of sabotage against the civil and military Government of Pakistan.
Mujib was harbouring the idea of an independent Bangladesh for more than two decades before the 1971 war, which he publicly expressed when the Indian forces occupied East Pakistan, by saying that his dream of 24 years for an ‘Independent Bangladesh’ has been fulfilled. He was a traitor by all definitions of the word.
The Agartala Conspiracy Case instituted by Ayub Khan, which had to be withdrawn under intense pressure from the agitation led by Mualana Abdul Hamid Bhashani in East Pakistan and an unremitting demand by the politicians from the West Wing, was a reality and not a setup to discredit Mujib as claimed by his supporters. The Deputy Speaker of Bangladesh Assembly, Shaukat Ali, who was one of the accused of the Agartala Conspiracy, on a point of order in the Assembly in 2010, confessed that charges read out to them were true stating that they formed a Shangram Parishad under Sheikh Mujib for secession of East Pakistan.
These facts leave no doubt in drawing the inference that India used Mujib to dismember Pakistan by providing training facilities to the Mukti Bahni, conducting murders and rapes to malign Pakistan Army and prepare ground for eventual assault. Tripura was actually the launching pad for offensive against the Pakistan Army for the Mukti Bahni and the Indian army. When Sheikh Hasina visited Tripura from January 11-12 in 2009, a Bangladeshi journalist Haroon Habib in an article published by The Hindu said that by visiting the state she was revisiting history as Tripura was the unofficial headquarter of the war of liberation.
The foregoing facts adequately explode the myths surrounding the Dhaka debacle. It is regrettable to note, however, that despite these irrefutable ground realities a lobby in Pakistan are endorsing the demand made by Bangladesh for an apology and trying to prove Mujib as a patriot based on the autobiography of Mujib; a deliberate and conscious effort to malign Pakistan and its army. The reality - as revealed by General Manek Shaw - is that most of the killings and rapes were carried out by the Hindus recruited by him and the elements hostile to Pakistan.
Pakistan has always looked forward to burying the past and have a cordial relationship with Bangladesh. Former President General Musharraf during his visit to Bangladesh expressed regrets over the tragic incident and urged the need for moving forward and not allowing history to bedevil the relations between the two countries.
Against the backdrop of realities unravelled by independent sources and circumstances surrounding the Dhaka debacle, there is no justification for Bangladesh to demand an apology from Pakistan.

The writer is a freelance columnist. Email: ashpak10@gmail.com

I have never heard of such claims attributed to Manekshaw. Unless you can quote a reliable source this must be graded as nonsense.
 
Wow! What a info! Now I understand why India won in just 10-12 days. Because it was just supporting... Local people/army's support just guaranteed the support...all indians had to do was just give final push. Salute to Brave East Pakistan Rifle's Bangla Warriors who laid down their life for their motherland. RIP
 
Wow! What a info! Now I understand why India won in just 10-12 days. Because it was just supporting... Local people/army's support just guaranteed the support...all indians had to do was just give final push. Salute to Brave East Pakistan Rifle's Bangla Warriors who laid down their life for their motherland. RIP
Yes otherwise in 1965 Indian didn't even dare
 

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