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Breaking news: Tejas SP-1 had its maiden flight

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But they still claim it,dont they??
Hve they released any videos of JF17 firing missiles yet??
i saw a video of bvr separation from jf17 ...dunno it is guided or not...most probably not
 
10 more years and we will hopefully see Mk-2 taking first flight...
 
btw what your sh!ty SUPAR(I).CO is doing :cheers:

still jf 17 cannot fire ......bvr

yes it can, for three years atleAst

stick to the topic folks. Congrats to all indians, big day for you all :yahoo::yahoo:
 
Whom you are trying to fool here??:lol:
In the initial years PAF claimed that JF17 can fire BVR missiles but no video was released.
PS-India is very transparent when it comes to these things,soon a lot of pics and videos will be released.

So you can tell the aerodynamic performance of a plane just by seeing its pic??!!!! Holy shit dude:lol:

This forum speaks volumes about transparency and what is the name of it, it is named Pak.Def. so stop your false claims of transparency right here, Pak def has more about Indian Defense than India itself, so false claims are the norms by Indians, that why i call then spin masters.

the other thing is this TEJA is not even in operation and will tentatively be in operations by 2019 or 2020, and who knows what will happen in between.

Whom you are trying to fool here??:lol:
In the initial years PAF claimed that JF17 can fire BVR missiles but no video was released.
PS-India is very transparent when it comes to these things,soon a lot of pics and videos will be released.

So you can tell the aerodynamic perfomance of a plane just by seeing its pic??!!!! Holy shit dude:lol:

All you have shown are trhe picture, no videos, and about aerodynamics the first thing is the look , by looking i can see the pilot pod is 45 degrees higher abruptly after the front cone, can you not see it.
 
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we are getting 60 more Su30 mki

and some 40 Super Su30MKI

though negotiaitons are underway to get the whole 270 Su30MKi upgarded to Super Su30MKi standard

we dont need Su35 the advantage is only in radar/engine which can be easily upgarded in SUper Su upgarde

if we want we should take Su34 fighter bombers 120 Nos




design freeze for Mk2 has been done
now design validation will take place
then 3-4 or even 8 PV/LSP will be built
should happen by 2016-2017
which will be given for trials / evaluation and certification
once it enters certification cycle (IOC1 IOC2 and FOC)
production will start (IOC2 config then FOC config)
should happen by 2018-2019

As one Pakistani pilot put it, SU 35 have a very large silhouette and an easier target for BVR to hit.
 
As one Pakistani pilot put it, SU 35 have a very large silhouette and an easier target for BVR to hit.
Su-35s have a RCS of just 2-3 m2. While Its radar can detect 3 m2 RCS fighter from 300+ km range. LOLs
 
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Su-35s have a RCS of just 2-3 m2. While Its radar can detect 3 m2 RCS fighter from 300+ km range. LOLs
Detection from 300klicks is so close as for as jets are concerned, their tuen around is near it, and bvr can lock and lock on from 500 klicks and more.

Swing wings are a good design for uplift but bad for drag.
 
Detection from 300klicks is so close as for as jets are concerned, their tuen around is near it, and bvr can lock and lock on from 500 klicks and more.

Swing wings are a good design for uplift but bad for drag.
Dude! Your figures are exaggerated by an order of magnitude. Please tell me which fighter can lock and track from 500 kms away? Even an AEWAC will find that difficult to do, let alone a fighter. The detection range for your F-16s are around 120-150 kms. The tracking range will be lower. The detection range for the most powerful Russian or American fighterborne radars are 200-300 kms.

Missiles with a range of 60 kms are considered BVR. Your A2A missile with the longest range has a range of 100 kms or so. 300 kms or 500 kms is way out of even detection range for any fighter.

Swing wings are a good design for uplift but bad for drag.
If you are talking about Tejas, it does not have a swing wing. It has a delta wing, like the mirage-2000 (which was the aircraft that IAF really loved.)
 
Compare to Keats sabre did a fantastic job, had east Pakistani specially Mujeeb had not become terrorist Pak. Air Force would have again with sabres given the same treatment as dished out in 1965.

So rest assure delta wings will with silhouette fly and be able the bear the brunt of great Pakistani pilots.
 
Compare to Keats sabre did a fantastic job, had east Pakistani specially Mujeeb had not become terrorist Pak. Air Force would have again with sabres given the same treatment as dished out in 1965.

So rest assure delta wings will with silhouette fly and be able the bear the brunt of great Pakistani pilots.
The F-86s of the PAF had the advantage of being armed with AIM-9B/GAR-8 Sidewinder missiles whereas none of its Indian adversaries had this capability. Despite this, the IAF claimed to have shot down four PAF Sabres in air-to-air combat.

With A2A missile any trainer can shoot plane , real battle was of those pilots who brought down planes which carry A2A missiles and shot them with bullets.

After that when IAF has the equal edge your F-16 forget to fly when Indian MIg-29 and Mirages -2000 in the air during Kargil.
 
Pakistan doesnt need wind-tunnels...:omghaha:



AFAIK there isn't any indigenous aircraft design in your country.
Man you can design all you want, but you keep denying help from Russia. it is silly, most important thing is how would it do in war. and for air wars, remember 1965 war.
 
The F-86s of the PAF had the advantage of being armed with AIM-9B/GAR-8 Sidewinder missiles whereas none of its Indian adversaries had this capability. Despite this, the IAF claimed to have shot down four PAF Sabres in air-to-air combat.

With A2A missile any trainer can shoot plane , real battle was of those pilots who brought down planes which carry A2A missiles and shot them with bullets.

After that when IAF has the equal edge your F-16 forget to fly when Indian MIg-29 and Mirages -2000 in the air during Kargil.
Dude that was not the case, Pakistan air force did down two of your fighters but did not wanted to start as war operating in a disputed territory.

Pakistan always tries to keep peace but if war is imposed than so be it. but than you as an Indian spinning the whole thing as far as possible you can take it, far out of truth. Dude. spin masters.
 
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