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Black Jails in Red China

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You people can only be internet warrior cause in China only Gun talk :sniper:

Of course not, actually were talking right now, Power of the gun seems to work it seems.
 
Chinese Black Jails: 'An Alleyway in Hell'?

The Chinese petition system is nearly 3000 years old. The citizens can complain against the corrupt provincial officials directly to Beijing. The tradition still continues wherein complaints ignored by provincial officials can be taken to Beijing especially during the annual meeting of the Chinese parliament. However, the provincial governments try to stop petitioners from reaching Beijing because if a lot of complaints come from an area the local officials are penalized for the same. In this context the article probes what are black jails and how do these jails operate in China? Is the central government a part of this arrangement and if not then what are the efforts being made by them to eradicate them in line with official policy?

What are black jails?

Chinese officials have never openly admitted the existence of these jails. The attempt by the provincial government to stop petitioners from reaching the higher authorities is driven by the fact that the promotions in the party ladder are given to officials for their good work in their provinces and such instances do not reflect well for their records. Moreover, in 2003 official detention centers were closed down after the residency requirements or the hukou rules were loosened. This is how the ‘black jails’ originated as the local governments started hiring private firms to stop people from traveling to Beijing with their complaints against the injustices in their areas.


A Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang even denied the existence of these jails at a recent press conference stating “I can assure you that there are no so-called black jails in China.” However the Chinese state-run and international media often reports their existence. The Human Rights Watch released a 53 page report in 2009 -“An Alleyway to Hell”- which documented the growing trend of detaining petitioners in Beijing through private security companies. It highlighted the severe violation of human rights in China through these detentions. The debate has been reinvigorated after a recent incident in September, where a tourist mistaken as a petitioner was taken into detention and brutally assaulted.

These black jails are illegal detention centers generally operated out of state-run hotels, nursing homes or psychiatric hospitals and are targeted at petitioners- critics and dissidents coming to Beijing and subjected frequently to sever torture and deprivations. Even minors are detained in these jails and many reports have highlighted cases of rape within these jails. Though many private security companies are registered, due to the huge sums of money involved many illegal detention centers have come up. The local governments pay approximately US$ 29 per person to the operators of these black jails and a recent illegal detention center uncovered was being paid by five local authorities. The whole nexus serves the central government as well and that is why no major actions to stop these illegal detentions have been undertaken by the Chinese state.

Regulations and impact
Though their presence has never been acknowledged publicly in China, some recent incidents and the reporting from the international and Chinese media have forced the Chinese state to take some action. There have been a few crackdowns on the illegal detention centers and officials who mistook a tourist as a petitioner were also reprimanded. The Chinese government has issued a new regulation wherein officials from Beijing will go to provinces and address the cases so the petitioners do not have to travel to center. The petitioners can also file a complaint online and a response is supposed to be given within sixty days. The officials in provinces have also been asked to keep one day aside every month for hearing the local petitions so as to ease out the pressure on the legal officials and petitioners too.

However, the paradox here is that on the one hand the Chinese government is trying to eradicate the ‘non-existent’ black jails and on the other hand it is planning to amend its criminal laws next year to legitimize extra-judicial detentions for up to 6 months. Also the officials were punished for mistaking a tourist as a petitioner and not for arresting petitioners illegally. The imprisonment of government critics like Ai Weiwei for 81 days at an undisclosed location raises further questions about the seriousness of the Chinese government to shut down the black jails. Thus, a total crackdown of the black jails will be difficult to control in Beijing as the central government seems to be passing contradictory regulations and also remains silent on their existence. This might result in the continuance of human rights violation in China and also the new regulation legalizing extra judicial detentions will further strengthen the already out of control domestic security authorities.
 
We are at no position but can catch up... What about you who have no right to talk

You people can only be internet warrior cause in China only Gun talk :sniper:

yes come back when you are there if not anything you say or said is just full of bs LOL
 
Sad Super Rich China has to do such a thing to petitioners who come to Beijing to complain about the corrupt provincial officials..

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FYI Indian posters you are hurting my feelings. You guys should not be sleeping on the job ! You missed the following article,

Troll..
 
Sad Super Rich China has to do such a thing to petitioners who come to Beijing to complain about the corrupt provincial officials..

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Illegal Troll..

Well they did come to Beijing to solve the dispute in Wukan. Indeed Corruption needs to be tackled harder.
 
Gents, now since we know what the Black jails are, shall we proceed to understand the need of such private hells?

The poor comes to Beijing to report corrupt provincial officials and are forced into Black holes and treated horrifically. Why??

What is their crime???

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Actually this thread was the security coming in due to the Tibetans killing themselves and the pictures show no brutality.

Bro, Believe me i have tons of pics of brutiality on Tibetians but this is not the thread to share those.. They will appear in the appropriate thread at an appropriate time..

For the time being, stop going off-topic..
 
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Bro, Believe me i have tons of pics of brutiality on Tibetians but this is not the thread to share those.. They will appear in the appropriate thread at an appropriate time..

For the time being, stop going off-topic..

What exactly is going off topic I simply replying to the poster DRDO who showed the link to the closed thread it seems :eek:
 
I read some articles about how public Chinese Jails are used as Factories for manufacturing goods which are further exported.
 
Well they did come to Beijing to solve the dispute in Wukan. Indeed Corruption needs to be tackled harder.

Yeah and Corruption can be tackled harder by forcing people in Black holes.. Was that told to you back there?

More over the state itself is party to these Black holes... Sad state of affair in Super China..

Now when this is happening to normal rural Chinese, I just can not image what would happen to Uighurs, Tibetians and Falun Dafa practiioners..
 
I don't want to say anything, the picture in the last Video was faked. First, the picture shouldn't have the English word and regular Chinese characters. In mainland, we use the simplified Chinese character. Second, the color of uniform of Chinese police wasn't the black. Here is the picture of Chinese police:
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