Bangladesh Air Force

[~Phoenix~]

China only sell 2nd line stuff to BD, reason is BD is under influence of India so China will never offer its top tech to BD. Time have changed India is now US ally and very good friend of BD, I proposed F-16 to BD due to several favoring reasons to BD, and one of them is that F-16 may be make in India soon, also no issue in maintenance and even new one will be cheaper due to low labor cost in India.

India focusing on FGFA,HAL LCA TEJAS,Dassault Rafaels now...American birds ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE..
To me,I'd prefer JF-17 or FC-1 as it is cheap and versatile and low maintainance costs...but our government prefers Russian heavy birds... ( J-10B,F-16,JAS-39,F/A-18 are in evaluation but Su-30 mkk and MiG-35 is on top of the want list )

 

[Basel]

India focusing on FGFA,HAL LCA TEJAS,Dassault Rafaels now...American birds ARE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE..
To me,I'd prefer JF-17 or FC-1 as it is cheap and versatile and low maintainance costs...but our government prefers Russian heavy birds... ( J-10B,F-16,JAS-39,F/A-18 are in evaluation but Su-30 mkk and MiG-35 is on top of the want list )

BD may be able to buy Su-30 or Mig-35s but BD will not be able to fund 5th gen fighter then, because both jets are expensive to operate / maintain and Mig-35 is not even in production yet so it will be costly to buy those. Mig is facing quality issues, due to that some years ago an African Country sent back new Mig-29s to Russia and demanded Su-30s in return.

India is buying top of the line US equipment like Apache gunship, M-777 Howitzer, C-130J, P-8I MPAs etc. they are going to make F-16/18 in India soon as talks are underway. In future US fighter jet in IAF or in IN is possible.

 

[~Phoenix~]

BD may be able to buy Su-30 or Mig-35s but BD will not be able to fund 5th gen fighter then, because both jets are expensive to operate / maintain and Mig-35 is not even in production yet so it will be costly to buy those. Mig is facing quality issues, due to that some years ago an African Country sent back new Mig-29s to Russia and demanded Su-30s in return.

MiG-35 is different,bro..
And our economy will be changed in huge amounts at 7% growth per year and will increase growth rate to 8-9% in the next few years, so by 2025 or atleast 2030,we will be able to afford a squadron of J-31s...

 

[Basel]

MiG-35 is different,bro..
And our economy will be changed in huge amounts at 7% growth per year and will increase growth rate to 8-9% in the next few years, so by 2025 or atleast 2030,we will be able to afford a squadron of J-31s...

But will China sell you J-31? Or Offer you JV in it? Because SAC need partner in this project and Chinese military currently not interested in it that is why they want Pakistan in JV with them. Due to India, China may not offer it to BD but BD can wait and go for PAK-FA from Russia when they have funds available.

Su-30SM/M2 for high-end jet will be good but it will need Tejas or JFT type jet to complement it or take role of work horse here Mig-35 can fit but will be expensive because BD have to bear development cost of Mig-35 because no one is buying it. Only Egypt may go for it but not confirmed.

 

[~Phoenix~]

But will China sell you J-31? Or Offer you JV in it? Because SAC need partner in this project and Chinese military currently not interested in it that is why they want Pakistan in JV with them. Due to India, China may not offer it to BD but BD can wait and go for PAK-FA from Russia when they have funds available.

Su-30SM/M2 for high-end jet will be good but it will need Tejas or JFT type jet to complement it or take role of work horse here Mig-35 can fit but will be expensive because BD have to bear development cost of Mig-35 because no one is buying it. Only Egypt may go for it but not confirmed.

Egypt confirmed 50 MiG-35s costing less than 2 billion and already paid Russia a part of it and will recieve the first batch at end of this year...And Russia will buy 117+ units of MiG-35 after 2017

India wont send Tejas to us... and J-31 is made for export,right? Iran is looking to buy it as well..

 

[Michael Corleone]

Yes, it does just google it.

if you have to change whole engine after 4000 hours in Mig-29, while in F-16 its above 6000 hours then which one is costly in terms of maintenance.

Price of parts are different. Airframe maintenance cost on f-16 is high

 

[~Phoenix~]

Price of parts are different. Airframe maintenance cost on f-16 is high

Plus its American stuff,so it comes with political strings attached..

 

[Basel]

Price of parts are different. Airframe maintenance cost on f-16 is high

No its not compared to Su-30 & Mig-29, google it.

 

[~Phoenix~]

No its not compared to Su-30 & Mig-29, google it.

But which is better? MiG-35,Su-30 or F-16?

We have enough money for maintainance costs...even though most money goes to the Swiss bank accounts of the officials..

 

[Basel]

But which is better? MiG-35,Su-30 or F-16?

We have enough money for maintainance costs...even though most money goes to the Swiss bank accounts of the officials..

look if one can afford (also available) advance tech then they go for western systems for example India, although they purchased Su-30 from Russia back in 90s when they were not close to US they still went for systems which came from France and Israel, in MMRCA they dumped Russia and went for western jet.

Russian tech is good but not at par with west because they can't invest much in R&D while west and even China is investing heavily in R&D.

One example is that Mig-29K was not developed until India payed the bill, and still that Mig-29K is not for all future ACCs because they can have much advance Rafael-M or 5th Gen F-35 available for those.

You don't have big threat for now and in near future and no issues with current big powers then save money and buy used F-16s with MLU if you can pay then add AESA + IRIST to it and you will have 4++gen fighter in low price, can also go for new ones possibly make in India which will be cheaper then make in US those will have more range payload, more powerful and more reliable engine. F-16s are very pilot friendly and have more availability for operation compared to Mig-29 & Su-30.

BD can go for good numbers of Pak FA or possibly F-35, if BD spend money sensibly now. If BD really want to go for Russian non 5th gen then go for Su-35's latest version it has most engine and airframe life in any modern Sukhoi fighter jet ever built and its most advance too.

 

[~Phoenix~]

India is buying top of the line US equipment like Apache gunship, M-777 Howitzer, C-130J, P-8I MPAs etc. they are going to make F-16/18 in India soon as talks are underway. In future US fighter jet in IAF or in IN is possible.

India is busy worshipping Russian birds...India and Russia are developing the PAK FA FGFA together...

They have huge numbers of Russian birds already...
And they are getting Dassault Rafaels and other better stuff,so they won't get old stuff anymore like F-16/F-18..

BD can go for good numbers of Pak FA or possibly F-35, if BD spend money sensibly now. If BD really want to go for Russian non 5th gen then go for Su-35's latest version it has most engine and airframe life in any modern Sukhoi fighter jet ever built and its most advance too.

J-31 and Su-35 seems the closest option..

You don't have big threat for now and in near future and no issues with current big powers then save money and buy used F-16s with MLU if you can pay then add AESA + IRIST to it and you will have 4++gen fighter in low price, can also go for new ones possibly make in India which will be cheaper then make in US those will have more range payload, more powerful and more reliable engine. F-16s are very pilot friendly and have more availability for operation compared to Mig-29 & Su-30.

Maybe,but we are going for MiG-35 and Su-30 most probably....

 

[Basel]

India is busy worshipping Russian birds...India and Russia are developing the PAK FA FGFA together...View attachment 316955 View attachment 316954
They have huge numbers of Russian birds already...
And they are getting Dassault Rafaels and other better stuff,so they won't get old stuff anymore like F-16/F-18..



J-31 and Su-35 seems the closest option..



Maybe,but we are going for MiG-35 and Su-30 most probably....

India is not buying PAK FA, they want to built FGFA based on PAK FA which will have many western systems, Russia is pushing sale of PAK FA. India have upgraded its Russian jets with many western systems many coming from Israel.

 

[~Phoenix~]

India is not buying PAK FA, they want to built FGFA based on PAK FA which will have many western systems, Russia is pushing sale of PAK FA. India have upgraded its Russian jets with many western systems many coming from Israel.

Israel.......eww!

 

[Michael Corleone]

No its not compared to Su-30 & Mig-29, google it.

F-16 is a cost effective aircraft designed to perform at a level close to f-15.
Mig 29 is designed to achieve air superiority regardless if the pilot can handle the extreme or not.
If the pilot can't. He loses, but if the pilot can he wins. That's how it works with migs. Plus try taking off with f16 on a bombed runway! Good luck.

 

[~Phoenix~]

F-16 is a cost effective aircraft designed to perform at a level close to f-15.
Mig 29 is designed to achieve air superiority regardless if the pilot can handle the extreme or not.
If the pilot can't. He loses, but if the pilot can he wins. That's how it works with migs. Plus try taking off with f16 on a bombed runway! Good luck.

Well said,bro