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Pakistanis protest US supply line into Afghanistan
By MUNIR AHMAD
Dec 18, 2008


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — More than 10,000 Pakistanis protested Thursday against allowing U.S. forces to ship supplies through Pakistan into Afghanistan in a sign of growing pressure on Islamabad to harden its foreign policy.

It was one of the largest rallies against the government since it took office in March. Militants have attacked trucks using the critical Khyber Pass route several times in recent weeks.

The protesters — backers of Jamaat-e-Islami, a hard-line Islamist party — also decried U.S. missile strikes targeting al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas along the Afghan border and Pakistani military offensives against Islamic insurgents in the area.

Banner-toting demonstrators chanted "Down with America" and "Jihad is the only solution of America" as they marched along a key road in the main northwestern city of Peshawar, led by national party chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed.

"If America continues atrocities against Muslims, it will also not be able to live in peace," Express television quoted Amhed as saying.

Sirajul Haq, Jamaat-e-Islami's provincial chief, threatened to cut off the convoys.

"We will no longer let arms and ammunition pass through ... and reach the hands of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan," he told the crowd. "They are using the same against our innocent brothers, sisters and children."

The protest comes at a time that the government is dealing with fallout from the Mumbai terror attacks that killed more than 160 people. India on Thursday ordered cricket officials to cancel next month's scheduled tour of Pakistan.

Reflecting concern for Pakistan's economic and political stability, the country's main stock market index fell to its lowest level in more than three years.

India says the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group was behind November's attacks. Pakistan has arrested some suspects and clamped down on a charity, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, allegedly linked to the outlawed group, but it insists it needs evidence from India.

Pakistan also summoned an Indian envoy Thursday to formally complain about alleged violations of its airspace Saturday as it sought to deflect heat from the Mumbai attacks onto its longtime rival.

Pakistani leaders had previously downplayed the alleged airspace breaches by Indian aircraft, calling them "technical." India has denied any airspace violations took place.

Associated Press Writer Riaz Khan contributed to this report from Peshawar.
 
Pakistanis protest US supply line into Afghanistan
By MUNIR AHMAD
Dec 18, 2008


ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — More than 10,000 Pakistanis protested Thursday against allowing U.S. forces to ship supplies through Pakistan into Afghanistan in a sign of growing pressure on Islamabad to harden its foreign policy.

It was one of the largest rallies against the government since it took office in March. Militants have attacked trucks using the critical Khyber Pass route several times in recent weeks.

The protesters — backers of Jamaat-e-Islami, a hard-line Islamist party — also decried U.S. missile strikes targeting al-Qaida and Taliban leaders in Pakistan's lawless tribal areas along the Afghan border and Pakistani military offensives against Islamic insurgents in the area.

Banner-toting demonstrators chanted "Down with America" and "Jihad is the only solution of America" as they marched along a key road in the main northwestern city of Peshawar, led by national party chief Qazi Hussain Ahmed.

"If America continues atrocities against Muslims, it will also not be able to live in peace," Express television quoted Amhed as saying.

Sirajul Haq, Jamaat-e-Islami's provincial chief, threatened to cut off the convoys.

"We will no longer let arms and ammunition pass through ... and reach the hands of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan," he told the crowd. "They are using the same against our innocent brothers, sisters and children."

The protest comes at a time that the government is dealing with fallout from the Mumbai terror attacks that killed more than 160 people. India on Thursday ordered cricket officials to cancel next month's scheduled tour of Pakistan.

Reflecting concern for Pakistan's economic and political stability, the country's main stock market index fell to its lowest level in more than three years.

India says the Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group was behind November's attacks. Pakistan has arrested some suspects and clamped down on a charity, Jamaat-ud-Dawa, allegedly linked to the outlawed group, but it insists it needs evidence from India.

Pakistan also summoned an Indian envoy Thursday to formally complain about alleged violations of its airspace Saturday as it sought to deflect heat from the Mumbai attacks onto its longtime rival.

Pakistani leaders had previously downplayed the alleged airspace breaches by Indian aircraft, calling them "technical." India has denied any airspace violations took place.

Associated Press Writer Riaz Khan contributed to this report from Peshawar.

Any countries politicians should not allow the political expediency of the situation to dictate its actions. It should take actions that mould its public opinion not the other way around. The PPP government must show statesmanship and not be swayed by some people. Anyways for 6-8more weeks. After that there will be new supply lines that will open for the US from Russia and countries that were part of former USSR.
 
Afghan Supply Line Still Viable Despite Breaches, Pentagon Official Says
By John J. Kruzel
American Forces Press Service


WASHINGTON, Dec. 18, 2008 – As the U.S. military works to improve security along a supply line that passes through Pakistan en route to Afghanistan, the pathway continues to be a viable means of logistics, a Pentagon official said today.
Taliban militants reportedly have torched about 300 trucks laden with supplies, including military vehicles, in five attacks last week alone. But roughly 150 truckloads of supplies continue to traverse the route each day, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said today.


“While we are still evaluating how to not only improve the security along that line, but [also] other lines that we might be able to use, supplies continue to flow on a regular basis through that particular route,” he said.

Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, expressed increasing concern about the supply line in the wake of the Taliban destruction last week.

“I've had a concern about this for months. I mean, even without the incidents, it's a single point of failure for us,” he told reporters during a Pentagon news conference Dec. 10.

“Clearly we've engaged heavily with the Pakistanis to ensure the safety there and the ability to move so much of our vital capability through Pakistan to Afghanistan,” he said. “And with the increase in incidents, we're all increasingly concerned.”

Mullen said the United States has worked to develop alternative logistics options, “so that we're not tied to a single point of failure.”

“We've actually made a lot of progress, with respect to that,” he said. “I recognized the vulnerability that's there, and I'm confident that … we'll be able to sustain our effort.”
 
NATO Materiel Threatened in Pakistan

Taliban Attacks on Goods for Afghanistan Mission Viewed With Growing Concern
By Candace Rondeaux and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Foreign Service
Friday, December 19, 2008

PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- A recent increase in Taliban attacks on a crucial NATO transportation route from Pakistan to Afghanistan could imperil efforts to bolster the flagging, seven-year U.S.-led military campaign in Afghanistan, U.S. and Pakistani officials say.

Attacks on NATO supply lines have become a regular occurrence in parts of northwestern Pakistan, including the country's inhospitable tribal areas near the Afghan border. In the past two weeks, Taliban fighters have mounted at least six assaults on NATO supply depots near the Pakistani city of Peshawar, setting fire to more than 300 armored Humvees, military vehicles and other supply containers.

The attacks come as Pakistanis are increasingly calling for Western forces to stop using their territory for transport: Thousands of people rallied here Thursday to demand that the government cut off U.S. and NATO access to the main transit route.

Senior American military leaders have acknowledged the potential for supply problems as additional U.S. troops are brought into Afghanistan. Gen. David H. Petraeus, the head of U.S. Central Command, said in a recent speech that there was a "new urgency" to find alternative routes into Afghanistan. "The supply-line issues in Pakistan are quite serious," Petraeus said.

Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters this month that he recognized the supply lines were vulnerable and that he has been "increasingly concerned" that the latest attacks could have a troubling impact. "I've had a concern about this for months. . . . Even without incidents, it's a single point of failure for us," Mullen said.

He said the United States has been working with Pakistan to increase protection for the convoys. But he also said the American military was developing other options.

Efforts to find routes through Central Asia or even the Far East were made public this summer when the U.S. Transportation Command solicited a bid from contractors to move goods along different routes in those regions.

Supplying troops has consistently been a major challenge for U.S. forces in Iraq, with the need for heavily armed private security contractors to guard convoys dramatically inflating costs.

But in many ways, the challenge is even trickier in landlocked Afghanistan, where 70 to 80 percent of supplies have to be trucked in from Pakistan. Supply issues have historically been the Achilles' heel of foreign armies in Afghanistan: During the Soviet occupation in the 1980s, rebel Afghans made attacking Soviet convoys -- and stealing the goods -- a centerpiece of their strategy.

Pakistani officials and local Pakistani transporters say lax security along the NATO supply route from the southern port city of Karachi through the Khyber Pass to the Afghan border has made the convoys particularly vulnerable to attack. Fear of Taliban assaults prompted a leading Pakistani transport association to say this week that it will no longer carry goods for NATO through the pass.

Provincial police officials, meanwhile, have threatened to close key NATO transport depots in Peshawar within about a week if private transport companies fail to beef up security. And on Thursday, thousands joined a protest in Peshawar led by the Islamist Pakistani political party Jamaat-e-Islami, whose leaders called for an end to the use of Pakistani roads to supply NATO troops in Afghanistan.

"We will no longer let arms and ammunition pass through . . . and reach the hands of American and NATO forces in Afghanistan," Sirajul Haq, the provincial head of Jamaat-e-Islami, told the crowd. "They are using the same against our innocent brothers, sisters and children."

Meanwhile, Taliban leaders in Pakistan have vowed to step up their campaign to disrupt the flow of NATO supplies to Afghanistan, saying the recent attacks on NATO transport depots are a direct response to an increase in suspected U.S. missile strikes on insurgent havens in Pakistan's remote tribal areas.

"We will attack every vehicle transporting weapons, food and medicine to foreign troops in Afghanistan and will not allow them to cross the border," said Maulvi Omar, a spokesman for the Pakistani Taliban group headed by commander Baitullah Mehsud.

The targeting of supply routes has exposed a major strategic vulnerability that experts say could have wide-reaching effects on the U.S.-led war effort in neighboring Afghanistan. With more than 3,000 more American troops expected to arrive in Afghanistan in January and February, Western military planners face the additional logistical challenge of securing NATO supply routes in northwestern Pakistan, an area that has become a Taliban stronghold.

Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Defense Department analyst and current national security expert with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the recent attacks may be "just a warning of what's to come."

"Remember, they don't have to get every convoy. Delays will force a larger line of trucks waiting to cross," Cordesman said.

The Khyber Transport Association, a trade group representing about 3,500 truck drivers, cited the recent surge in attacks in its decision this week to drop deliveries of NATO goods to Afghanistan.

Shakir Ullah Afridi, president of the association, acknowledged that Pakistani government efforts to improve security along the route have been noticeable. But he said many owners of small transport companies still fear that their trucks will be destroyed and their drivers killed. Afridi, who said his association facilitates 60 to 70 percent of NATO transports through the Khyber Pass, said truck traffic has dwindled from about 300 vehicles a day to 30 to 40 near the pass. "The situation is getting worse and worse. It is now totally out of control," Afridi said.

Pressure on the transport companies to improve security at the 17 depots in Peshawar increased after arson attacks on NATO supply containers. For the city's underequipped and undermanned police force of 1,000 officers, the attacks have become a public safety issue that threatens to further erode the government's precarious hold on stability.

Malik Naveed Khan, inspector general of police in the North-West Frontier Province, said in an interview this week that the transport companies share much of the blame for the attacks because of their inadequate security. Despite claims by NATO transporters that they provide private security for their convoys, Khan said only a handful of the companies have trained, armed guards.

"One to two companies have retired army forces as guards. But the rest of them, they have employed just people from the street," Khan said. Recently, he delivered an ultimatum to transporters: Improve security at the depots within a week or face closure. Failure to install extra barrier walls and security lighting, and to hire more guards at the depots will bring the NATO transport business to a halt in the region, he said.

"We have told them we will cancel their licenses. We will take action against them. We will not allow them to take their containers here," Khan said. "We will be harsh with them."

In July, the Army Contracting Agency issued a proposal seeking private contractors to provide daily armed escorts for the convoys. The contractors would be required to provide at least 10 escort teams at a time and be able to generate up to 20 teams if needed and even more on 90-days' notice.

The teams are slated to operate from three points -- the port of Karachi, and Bagram air base and Kandahar in Afghanistan.

Small steps have already been taken, meanwhile, to secure the routes near Peshawar, a city of more than 3 million. Early this week, provincial authorities began to establish checkpoints and patrolling teams to ward off Taliban attacks. Additionally, about 1,200 officers with the paramilitary Frontier Constabulary, including several anti-terrorism squads, have been deployed along the route near Peshawar.

"Even then you cannot rule out the attacks," Khan said. "If they're determined, they will hit them."

Pincus reported from Washington. Special correspondents Haq Nawaz Khan in Peshawar and Shaiq Hussain in Islamabad, Pakistan, contributed to this report.
 
Amid Taliban Rule, a NATO Supply Line Is Choked

Musadeq Sadeq/Associated Press

A truck carried supplies for American and NATO troops on a highway east of Kabul, Afghanistan. A portion of this road in Pakistan has been called a deathtrap.

By RICHARD A. OPPEL JR. and PIR ZUBAIR SHAH

Published: December 24, 2008

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — This frontier city boasts a major air base and Pakistani Army and paramilitary garrisons. But the 200 Taliban guerrillas were in no rush as they methodically ransacked depots with NATO supplies here two weeks ago.

An important NATO supply line goes over Khyber Pass.
The militants began by blocking off a long stretch of the main road, giving them plenty of time to burn everything inside, said one guard, Haroon Khan, who was standing next to a row of charred trucks.

After assuring the overmatched guards they would not be killed — if they agreed never to work there again — the militants shouted “God is great” through bullhorns. They then grabbed jerrycans and made several trips to a nearby gas station for fuel, which they dumped on the cargo trucks and Humvees before setting them ablaze.

The attack provided the latest evidence of how extensively militants now rule the critical region east of the Khyber Pass, the narrow cut through the mountains on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border that has been a strategic trade and military gateway since the time of Alexander the Great.

The area encompasses what is officially known as the Khyber Agency, which is adjacent to Peshawar and is one of a handful of lawless tribal districts on the border. But security in Khyber has deteriorated further in recent months with the emergence of a brash young Taliban commander who calls news conferences to thumb his nose at NATO forces, as well as with public fury over deadly missile attacks by American remotely piloted aircraft.

Khyber’s downward spiral is jeopardizing NATO’s most important supply line, sending American military officials scrambling to find alternative routes into Afghanistan through Russia and Central Asia. Three-quarters of troop supplies enter from Pakistan, most of the goods ferried from Karachi to Peshawar and then 40 miles west through the Khyber Pass into Afghanistan.

A half-dozen raids on depots with NATO supplies here have already destroyed 300 cargo trucks and Humvees this month. American officials insist that troop provisions have not suffered, but with predictions that the American deployment in Afghanistan could double next year, to 60,000 soldiers, the pressure to secure safer transportation is even more intense.

For NATO the most serious problem is not even the depots in Peshawar but the safety of the road that winds west to the 3,500-foot Khyber Pass. The route used to be relatively secure: Afridi tribesman were paid by the government to safeguard it, and they were subject to severe penalties and collective tribal punishment for crimes against travelers.

But now the road is a death trap, truckers and some security officials say, with routine attacks like one on Sunday that burned a fuel tanker and another last Friday that killed three drivers returning from Afghanistan.

“The road is so unsafe that even the locals are reluctant to go back to their villages from Peshawar,” said Gul Naseem, who lives in Landi Kotal, near the border.

The largest truckers’ association here has gone on strike to protest the lack of security, saying that the job action has sidelined 60 percent of the trucks that normally haul military goods. An American official denied that the drop-off had been that severe.

“Not a single day passes when something doesn’t happen,” said Shakir Afridi, leader of the truckers’ group, the Khyber Transport Association. He said at least 25 trucks and six oil tankers were destroyed this month. “Attacks have become a daily affair,” he said.

There are new efforts to deter Taliban raids, including convoy escorts by a Pakistani paramilitary group, the Frontier Corps. But now militants are attacking empty — and unguarded — trucks returning to Pakistan. The road from Peshawar to the border has become far more perilous than the route on the other side in Afghanistan, truckers say.

“Our lives are in danger and nobody cares,” said Shah Mahmood Afridi, a driver who was in the returning convoy attacked on Friday. “They fired at the trucks and killed three men inside. There is no security provided when we are empty.”

Escalating violence on the Khyber road has paralleled the rise of Hakimullah Mehsud, a young Taliban commander and lieutenant of Baitullah Mehsud, leader of the main Pakistani Taliban faction.

Earlier this year, Hakimullah Mehsud’s forces took control of Orakzai Agency and instituted the strict Islamic laws known as Shariah. At a news conference there one month ago, Hakimullah Mehsud declared his intention to intensify attacks on NATO supply convoys. Some security officials say they believe that he was behind the assassination in August of a rival militant leader, Hajji Namdar, in Khyber.

At the same time, another powerful Khyber warlord, Mangal Bagh, who officials say has not been attacking the convoys, has seen the geographic range of his influence narrow somewhat, easing the path for Mr. Mehsud’s authority to expand inside some parts of Khyber. “I have no love for Mangal Bagh, but the fact remains that Mangal Bagh does not do these attacks,” said Tariq Hayat, the Khyber political agent, the top government official in the region.

Pakistani employees two weeks ago inspected trucks burned by Taliban guerrillas at a depot with NATO supplies in Peshawar.

Increased missile attacks by remotely piloted American aircraft — like one that killed seven people in the South Waziristan Agency on Monday — have enraged residents in Khyber and other tribal areas near the border, increasing sympathy for attacks on convoys. Mr. Afridi, of the truckers’ association, condemns the strikes and blames them for increased assaults on his drivers. “We are a tribal people, and if the Americans hit innocent people in Waziristan, we also feel the pain,” he said.

Raising the prospect of an even wider threat to the convoys, an influential Islamic party, Jamaat-e-Islami, staged a rally last week in Peshawar, turning out thousands to condemn the missile strikes. The marchers demanded that Pakistan end the NATO convoys, and they vowed to cut the supply lines themselves.

Taliban militants have also moved into Khyber after Pakistani military campaigns in nearby areas like Bajaur Agency. Their migration is reminiscent of a tactic that bedeviled the American military in Iraq for years — dubbed “whack a mole” by combat officers — in which guerrillas eluded large American combat operations and moved to take up positions in areas with understaffed troop contingents.

All those factors have been amplified, in the view of some officials, by the torpor of the Pakistani government. Mahmood Shah, a retired Pakistani Army brigadier who until 2006 was in charge of security in the western tribal regions, said the government had the manpower to drive militants out of Khyber but had mounted only a weak response.

He recounted a recent conversation with a senior Pakistani government official. “You have the chance to wake up,” he said he told the official. “But if you don’t wake up now, there is a good chance you won’t wake up at all.”
 
I thought the Afridi clans were the defacto rulers in the Khyber area...and apparently still run the transports. Do they still have their "lashkars" on are they more urbanized now? Whose side is Mangal Bagh on, maybe a coalition with these guys could turn the tide against the Mehsuds?
 

Other options include Air Transport, which is unaffordable by the Allies due to the nature and amount of equipment. So as long as Iran isn't willing to provide them an alternative, i believe they should just suffer the consequences of their big fat hypocrite strategy. You can't use drones against the people (And their families) who can control your supply route. ;)
 
I thought the Afridi clans were the defacto rulers in the Khyber area...and apparently still run the transports. Do they still have their "lashkars" on are they more urbanized now? Whose side is Mangal Bagh on, maybe a coalition with these guys could turn the tide against the Mehsuds?

they r on the side of color of money - green kind!!!
 
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Sources: U.S. to arm local Afghans to fight Taliban - CNN.com

U.S. to arm local Afghans to fight Taliban

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military plans to help the Afghanistan government recruit, train and arm local Afghans to fight a resurgent Taliban, U.S. military officials say.
U.S. soldiers patrol near Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan on Wednesday.

U.S. soldiers patrol near Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan on Wednesday.

U.S. officials describe the proposal as a "community-based" security effort.

The main job of the local units is to be an "early warning system" and be armed mainly for defensive operations, a U.S. military official said.

Participants will get uniforms so they can be readily identified, officials said.

The first phase of the program is expected to begin next year in Wardak province, where the Taliban have overrun many local government institutions.

For the United States, the most sensitive part of the proposal will be the use of American military funds to purchase small arms, most likely AK-47 rifles, that will be given to local Afghans, according to a U.S. military official.

U.S. commanders acknowledge concerns that arming local groups is risky, as it could lead to new armed conflicts between tribes, putting American troops in the middle of unexpected firefights.
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The Afghan government will select men for the new security program. It will train them and technically arm them, although the funds will come from the U.S. military.

The Afghans will be responsible for ensuring the loyalty of people in the program, but the United States will oversee the effort and collect biometric information, such as eyeprints and fingerprints, on all participants, according to the U.S. military official.

U.S. officials are emphasizing that because of tribal diversity, the Afghan program differs from the Awakening Councils in Iraq, which include tens of thousands of Sunni gunmen and was credited with helping reduce violence there.
 
^^^apparantly the pakistani transport co's are moving their logistic depots to punjab! does this means that NATO/ISAF are going to continue the pak supply route??
 
"apparantly the pakistani transport co's are moving their logistic depots to punjab! does this means that NATO/ISAF are going to continue the pak supply route??"

This is interesting. First, it's all about trying to find SOME way to keep the business in Pakistan. Thus exploring every possibility seems practical. Staging further away from the militants helps until the militants move east-southeast. Unlikely for the time being though is my guess. Those raids in Peshawar happen where the militants have a nearby community(ies) in support and are readily available to accomodate them. They'll need something similar in Punjab. Until the militant uprising spreads there in more general fashion direct attacks seem less likely.

That said, does the Punjab to Kabul route mark the greatest extent of a one-shot/no refuel convoy range? If so, then my guess would further include the possibility of active convoy assistance by the P.A. Securing this route is more than simply about NATO resupply-however important that may be. The Peshawar-Jalalabad-Kabul link is a key national artery and must remain under government control. Clearly the tribal lashkars once capable of doing so are no longer up to the task.

In the end, these road networks are a nation's circulation system. Commerce moves like blood through these routes. Failure to secure such will increase anxiety among the nation's business owners. Atrophy of the commercial network ensues.

There's a two-fold challenge here. Can logistics depots be more secure in Punjab? Can convoys be secured from there to the Afghan border AND BACK AGAIN? Really that's three questions. All must answer "yes" for a long-term and satisfactory Pakistani response.

Should NATO/ISAF find that Pakistan can't be relied upon to secure safe transit of it's supplies, there will be efforts to find other paths. That's in fact already started. Can these routes wholly replace the goods moving through Pakistan and at what cost and for how long? Should America/NATO be successful in locating new alternatives, that ability to resupply from elsewhere will diminish Pakistan's tangible contribution to the allied effort.

I'm uncertain how that might alter the dynamic of the U.S./Pakistan engagement. I would presume some elements of that relationship would shift.
 
Afghanistan is land locked country there is no alternate route for NATO.Russia already refused to help NATO.

We know what happened with army have no supply line.....:azn:
 

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