2nd Fast Attack Craft (FAC) Launched in Karachi

[Dazzler]

Both F-22p and this new FAC have C-803sAshMs, not 802s or even 802As, source is inside navy.

 

[regular]

Both F-22p and this new FAC have C-803sAshMs, not 802s or even 802As, source is inside navy.

Oh! thanks Sir great to hear that....

 

[muse]

These C803 and others in the same family - how are these missile launchers reloaded?? or is that once the eight missiles they carry they have to return to a port to reload??

 

[jawadqamar]

Both F-22p and this new FAC have C-803sAshMs, not 802s or even 802As, source is inside navy.

No offense friend but i beg to differ


Pakistan has ordered 50 C802A Anti-ship missile (Air to Surface version)for JF-17s in 2008 out of which 10 were delivered to Pakistan last year and 30 additional C-802A (Surface to Surface version)missiles were ordered last year along with these missile crafts.

Since Pakistan has officially displayed C-802A along with the JF-17s in international air shows one can easily conclude that China have no problem in selling C-802A to Pakistan navy.

Pakistan Navy ordered 70 C-802A Anti-ship missiles in 2005 F-22P frigates

C-802A have range of 180km.

These C803 and others in the same family - how are these missile launchers reloaded?? or is that once the eight missiles they carry they have to return to a port to reload??

Reloading is usually done at the ports.

 

[Penguin]

C-803

Pakistan Navy operates these missiles in its Khalid class Agosta 90B submarines.[1]

C-803 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, tracing the source given in the wiki:

An unconfirmed report in August 2002 suggested that C-803 missiles were being deployed on Pakistan’s “Khalid” class (Agosta 90B) submarines.(1)]

MissileThreat :: YJ-83

Other than that it is C-802 arming the PN F-22P Zulfiquar class frigates and Jalalat II class FACs and C-802A arming PAFs JF-17 Thunder

 

[Dazzler]

This is from SIPRI data base 1950-2007 Pak-China missile trades. C803 for F-22ps are mentioned.

Transfers of major conventional weapons: sorted by supplier. Deals with deliveries or orders made for year range 1950 to 2007
Note: The ‘No. delivered/produced’ and the ‘Year(s) of deliveries’ columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. Deals in which the recipient was involved in the production of the weapon system are listed separately. The ‘Comments’ column includes publicly reported information on the value of the deal. Information on the sources and methods used in the collection of the data, and explanations of the conventions, abbreviations and acronyms, can be found at URL <http://armstrade.sipri.org/>. The SIPRI Arms Transfers Database is continuously updated as new information becomes available.
Source: SIPRI Arms Transfers Database
Information generated: 20 October 2008


Supplier/ Year Year(s) No.
recipient (R) No. Weapon Weapon of order/ of delivered/
or licenser (L) ordered designation description licence deliveries produced Comments


China
R: Pakistan (16) HY-2/SY-1A/CSS-N-2 Anti-ship missile 1980 1981 (16) For Hegu (Haibat) FAC; SY-1A (CSS-N-2) version
(40) HQ-2/CSA-1 SAM (1983) 1983 (40)
(32) HY-1/SY-1/CSS-N-1 Anti-ship missile 1983 1984 (32) For Huangfen (Azmat) FAC
(100) HN-5A Portable SAM (1984) 1987 (100)
(36) LY-60 SAM (1994) 1996-1997 (36) For 3 modernized Tariq (Amazon) Class frigates
(20) C-802/CSS-N-8/Saccade Anti-ship missile 1997 1997-1999 (20) For Jalalat FAC
(20) C-802/CSS-N-8/Saccade Anti-ship missile (2003) 2006 (20) For Jalalat FAC
(40) C-803 Anti-ship missile (2005) For Jiangwei (F-22P) frigates
(70) R-440 Crotale SAM (2005) For Jiangwei (F-22P) frigates; HQ-7 (FM-80) version

L: (1000) HN-5A Portable SAM (1988) 1989-1998 (1000) Pakistani designation Anza-1
(55) M-11/CSS-7 SSM (1988) 1992-1994 (55) Incl assembly in Pakistan
. . Red Arrow-8 Anti-tank missile 1989 1990-2007 (14600) Pakistani designation Baktar Shikan
. . QW-1 Vanguard Portable SAM (1993) 1994-2007 (1150) Pakistani designation Anza-2

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

C-803

C-803 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

However, tracing the source given in the wiki:

MissileThreat :: YJ-83

Other than that it is C-802 arming the PN F-22P Zulfiquar class frigates and Jalalat II class FACs and C-802A arming PAFs JF-17 Thunder

we bought 70 c802a for f22p in 2005 and after that further orders of c802a were placed for jf17

 

[regular]

we bought 70 c802a for f22p in 2005 and after that further orders of c802a were placed for jf17

I guess we shold not import C803 or C802's as we shold have enough talent to manufacture them at home. Idon'tknowwhy we are stillunable tomanufacture them here. Theyare not so high tech or of too much long range????...

 

[Dazzler]

it is not about capability rather time and resources. Why develop a similar thing in-house spending more time, money and R&D when you can buy it cheaper, sooner yet efficient from a reliable supplier?

 

[regular]

it is not about capability rather time and resources. Why develop a similar thing in-house spending more time, money and R&D when you can buy it cheaper, sooner yet efficient from a reliable supplier?

Yes ! U right about that but I was looking at from a different angle cuz our ppl will be busy and get employment too....

 

[araz]

I guess we shold not import C803 or C802's as we shold have enough talent to manufacture them at home. Idon'tknowwhy we are stillunable tomanufacture them here. Theyare not so high tech or of too much long range????...

Regular
One would only setup a manufacturing facility if the numbers required were large. But for a couple of hundred units, which is all that we will need, it is a waste of money. In the current economic climate you wont even have much success selling them to anyone either. So the better decision is to acquire them from China.
Araz

 

[Kompromat]

C-803,

 

[Cool_Soldier]

What about C-206 missile.I read somewhere Pakistan do have them with greater range.
Any confirmation?

 

[Dazzler]

never heard of a C-206

 

[SEAL]

never heard of a C-206

He wanted to say C-602 i guess.