Kashmir will Never be a Part of Pakistan - Sushma Swaraj

raptor22 said:

Is Vishnu a God?

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Yes according to Hindu Mythology.

risingsinga said:

About his/her statement... A person should not use the word "never". It is not a politically correct statement. India's history tells us a lot about the rise and fall of empires. USSR was a powerful country with thousands of nukes and still it disintegrated into oblivion. India with a multitude of problems , diversity and the rise of extremist ideology and uprising of separation movement in various parts faces the existential threat from within and apparently seems all set for a collapse. No offense to anyone but that's just my analysis..it may be wrong though the common wisdom dictates otherwise.

Regards,

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How much you know about India ??

There is a phrase "Kos Kos pe Badle Pani aur Char Kos pe Vani" means India is a land where in every Mile there is change of Water and in every 4 miles change of Language.

I suggest you to know, how many languages does India have, you would be surprised its more that 100.
This land had seen the attack from Mughals, Arabs, Turks, Portuguese, French, English, Mongols -- But still its culture survives because its too deeply rooted. This culture have a bad habit of taking all GOOD things from other culture, that's why this is the last place for the Zionist, the only place where JEWS very welcomed, Have all 72 sects of Muslims, and the highest number of Maszid than even the Muslim nations in the world.

Who is going to take the Kashmir from us -- Pakistan -- tried everything for last 60 years, still failed. China -- the big one, but could a party PRC can face a nation, which will rise all together and stand as ONE if the moment arises. India might looks disintegrated from the Far EAST but under the soil, we are ONE -- INDIAN.

zebra7 said:

Yes according to Hindu Mythology.



How much you know about India ??

There is a phrase "Kos Kos pe Badle Pani aur Char Kos pe Vani" means India is a land where in every Mile there is change of Water and in every 4 miles change of Language.

I suggest you to know, how many languages does India have, you would be surprised its more that 100.
This land had seen the attack from Mughals, Arabs, Turks, Portuguese, French, English, Mongols -- But still its culture survives because its too deeply rooted. This culture have a bad habit of taking all GOOD things from other culture, that's why this is the last place for the Zionist, the only place where JEWS very welcomed, Have all 72 sects of Muslims, and the highest number of Maszid than even the Muslim nations in the world.

Who is going to take the Kashmir from us -- Pakistan -- tried everything for last 60 years, still failed. China -- the big one, but could a party PRC can face a nation, which will rise all together and stand as ONE if the moment arises. India might looks disintegrated from the Far EAST but under the soil, we are ONE -- INDIAN.

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Do you have any knowledge about this God and if yes would you please explain a little about him?

raptor22 said:

Do you have any knowledge about this God and if yes would you please explain a little about him?

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Certainly Yes, and I am very clear about it.

God is everything, including soil, air, space, humans, animals, trees, mountains, stars, moon, sun --- In short everything is GOD.

Question is why is GOD. -- Because our mind tends to try to find the reason for anything its sense shows him, and it tries to find the reason. But there are so many questions which it could not find the answer -- say when was the time when everything was started, because if there is some time, than what was before that. OR what is the smallest size or the biggest because if it is there, than there can be more smaller and bigger than that. So for that our mind created a variable called INFINITY aka GOD.

Why to search the GOD, when real GOD is everything, everywhere, every one. e.g your hand thinks that it is different than your leg, but its an organ of your body, and why they keep on searching raptor22.

Looking for GODs RULE

One Rule I knew is GRAVITY and everyone whether so called living and nonliving follows

Looking for what GOD wants

It wants us to Survive/ Live

Which is the Best Religion

Humanity

Which is the best GURU/Guide/Callipha

Our brain, our understanding, our logic

What is Certain

Change

regarding what indians are doing in kashmir....u dont need to be pakistani or muslim or etc u just need to be human ..thats all

Yes i agreed with him
Pakistan will be part of Islamic Republic of Pakistan

zebra7 said:

Certainly Yes, and I am very clear about it.

God is everything, including soil, air, space, humans, animals, trees, mountains, stars, moon, sun --- In short everything is GOD.

Question is why is GOD. -- Because our mind tends to try to find the reason for anything its sense shows him, and it tries to find the reason. But there are so many questions which it could not find the answer -- say when was the time when everything was started, because if there is some time, than what was before that. OR what is the smallest size or the biggest because if it is there, than there can be more smaller and bigger than that. So for that our mind created a variable called INFINITY aka GOD.

Why to search the GOD, when real GOD is everything, everywhere, every one. e.g your hand thinks that it is different than your leg, but its an organ of your body, and why they keep on searching raptor22.

Looking for GODs RULE

One Rule I knew is GRAVITY and everyone whether so called living and nonliving follows

Looking for what GOD wants

It wants us to Survive/ Live

Which is the Best Religion

Humanity

Which is the best GURU/Guide/Callipha

Our brain, our understanding, our logic

What is Certain

Change

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First thanks for your time and kindness ..
I searched and I have found that "Vishnu" as God is portrayed as a blue guy with four hands ...


I think taking everything as God isn't a wise conclusion and wouldn't make sense , it's better to say they are reflections of God power .... time is an abstract concept related to the gravity so in black hole depending on your position and movement time could goes faster or slower ...

Kashif.K said:

Amarnath and Vaishno Devi are two prominent holy sites among various others spread over S. Asia. How would Muslims feel if not only Hindus but if Christians or Jews had planted themselves in Mecca and Medina and demanded their own territory? And yes I'm an ex-Muslim living in the comfort of the United States to practice whatever I want without being prosecuted

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Thats right!...County first and foremost, (Religion is also very important to me...That is between me and GOD....Nobody has a say on my choices of what I practice).....And yes Just like Kashif and I we will not be prosecuted for our beliefs...

as1mz said:

Sigh!

http://todayinpakistan.com/kashmir-will-never-part-pakistan-indian-fm/

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Sushma g we Pakistanis reply to your statement

Thomas M said:

FYI, India and Pakistan never achieved freedom, we were granted freedom because England was in a bad financial position after WWII and maintaining an army and managing assets far way could have put extra burden on their treasury. If that was not the case we would still be part of British colonies.

But India doesn't have that problem, because economically we are in very good shape and we don't have any logistical problem managing Kashmir unlike the Britisher's. LOL



Let him say, if wishes were horses Nawaz could surely ride. LOL

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So according to you all of your ancestors who died fighting were actually jokers of high level and died for no reason? You must be a special kind of Indian to say that hahahahaha you were better off under British raj

raptor22 said:

I searched and I have found that "Vishnu" as God is portrayed as a blue guy with four hands ...

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Vishnu portrayed as blue guy -- LOLZ Blue color means his skin is dark.

Second 4 hands is symbolyzation, of something One hand he is holding Club -- Means power, Holding Lotus means -- Money, aka worthy and Shell symbolises Leader. He is actually portrayed as King -- He is the Protector. According to Hindu Mythology there are 3 Supreme GOD, but all are same, but have 3 form, and all are Equal -- Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh or Shiva. Brahma is the Creator, Vishnu Protector, and Shiva is the Distroyer.

Everyone/everything which have the START will have the END, and from the Distruction New birth takes place -- Same theory of the creation of the Universe, which we read today -- Aka Stars dies, and convert into the Dark Hole, then Big Bang, and with that Big bang, new Stars arises. Energy could never be created nor Distroyed.

Strangely these theories are in the old books of the Hindus which are 5000 B.C Old.

There are the western theory given by the Western world about the Indian Culture which are Flawed and there is a reason why they did that.

1. Aryan Invasion theory --- This is a B.S theory, which could be easily be bluffed if studied seriously -- Reason, how could Indians be more advanced and more develoved and intellects than the European, which are going to enlight the whole world and take them out of darkness of Ignorance.

2. Indian Culture, Vedas are just 3000 year old. --- Reason, could be easily guessed, because there is a date of the creation of the world according to the BIBLE, and how could the Vedas be as old as 10000 B.C, when GOD hadn't created the World.

raptor22 said:

I think taking everything as God isn't a wise conclusion and wouldn't make sense , it's better to say they are reflections of God power .... time is an abstract concept related to the gravity so in black hole depending on your position and movement time could goes faster or slower ...

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I starting loving you.

Can you give me the Definition of TIME in One Line Dear ??

Daghalodi said:

So according to you all of your ancestors who died fighting were actually jokers of high level and died for no reason? You must be a special kind of Indian to say that hahahahaha you were better off under British raj

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Don't embarrass yourself if you can't comprehend what I said. Actually, there is a little correction, it is not my ancestor but our ancestors but if you think you are an offspring of some crusader rapist/murder Arabs, then so be it.

Moreover our ancestors died for a cause and we Indian's including me admire that, but there is a great difference between reason and cause.

But the immediate reason for the independence of India and Pakistan was that Mr. Clement Attlee of Labour party came into power after British general elections. Had it been Mr. Churchill the independence could have delayed further by some more years since he was in no mood to grant Independence not only to India, but also other British overseas territory. It is clearly evident from the declassified diplomatic communications and documented records, and it is clear beyond all doubt by the letters exchanged between then US President and Mr. Churchill as well as various MOMs between 1939 - 1945.

And FYI, immediately after world war Britain like Russia and France did survived, but its wealth, prestige and authority had been severely reduced. And all these factors along with a P.M who was in favor of decolonization made it possible that India and Pakistan eventually got there independence.

I still consider Hitler not Gandhi, the main reason behind our independence. And I am obviously a special kind, because I follow the history that is made not written.

Thomas M said:

Don't embarrass yourself if you can't comprehend what I said. Actually, there is a little correction, it is not my ancestor but our ancestors but if you think you are an offspring of some crusader rapist/murder Arabs, then so be it.

Moreover our ancestors died for a cause and we Indian's including me admire that, but there is a great difference between reason and cause.

But the immediate reason for the independence of India and Pakistan was that Mr. Clement Attlee of Labour party came into power after British general elections. Had it been Mr. Churchill the independence could have delayed further by some more years since he was in no mood to grant Independence not only to India, but also other British overseas territory. It is clearly evident from the declassified diplomatic communications and documented records, and it is clear beyond all doubt by the letters exchanged between then US President and Mr. Churchill as well as various MOMs between 1939 - 1945.

And FYI, immediately after world war Britain like Russia and France did survived, but its wealth, prestige and authority had been severely reduced. And all these factors along with a P.M who was in favor of decolonization made it possible that India and Pakistan eventually got there independence.

I still consider Hitler not Gandhi, the main reason behind our independence. And I am obviously a special kind, because I follow the history that is made not written.

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Long wided typical Indian Nonsense as usual...yes world war 2 was the reason for British raj to give up Bharat Mata but hey Indian did you forget Americans gained independence from the British too and that too before hitler so I'm sorry to burst your bubble when you say your forefathers died in vain. Well anyway who cares what you consider since your a special kind Maybe your paying your respect to British raj for saving your women from sati

Daghalodi said:

Long wided typical Indian Nonsense as usual...yes world war 2 was the reason for British raj to give up Bharat Mata but hey Indian did you forget Americans gained independence from the British too and that too before hitler so I'm sorry to burst your bubble when you say your forefathers died in vain. Well anyway who cares what you consider since your a special kind Maybe your paying your respect to British raj for saving your women from sati

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Well native American's never gained independence for the invaders, if you don't know the history it was the same European settlers who had settled in American subcontinent for years who fought the Americans. So actually it were the European settlers who fought and got their independence from the British crown.

Moreover when did you burst my bubble, I had replied with supporting historic facts. Prove me otherwise with facts.

And it is not my forefathers, it is our forefathers.

Again if you wish to call yourself and other Pakistani to be an offspring's of some crusader Arabs, whom Pakistani's occasionally claim have ruled India for a 1000 years, then so be it. But I am sorry to say that every Muslim in our subcontinent (not only Pakistan) is nothing but the byproduct of that 1000 years of rape, murder and tyranny. That is why some of you guy's are still having Chaudhry, Rao, Butt, Randhawa etc. as a tail with your Muslim names, so please don't disown your ancestry. :-(

Thomas M said:

Well native American's never gained independence for the invaders, if you don't know the history it was the same European settlers who had settled in American subcontinent for years who fought the Americans. So actually it were the European settlers who fought and got their independence from the British crown.

Moreover when did you burst my bubble, I had replied with supporting historic facts. Prove me otherwise with facts.

And it is not my forefathers, it is our forefathers.

Again if you wish to call yourself and other Pakistani to be an offspring's of some crusader Arabs, whom Pakistani's occasionally claim have ruled India for a 1000 years, then so be it. But I am sorry to say that every Muslim in our subcontinent (not only Pakistan) is nothing but the byproduct of that 1000 years of rape, murder and tyranny. That is why some of you guy's are still having Chaudhry, Rao, Butt, Randhawa etc. as a tail with your Muslim names, so please don't disown your ancestry. :-(

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Whose talking about the American Indians? You lambasted about how India is so stable that nothing can shake her while you forget people do get freedom from oppression from the likes of French Revolution the Iranian revolution the hundered year wars and please don't talk about India because Muslims invaded and ruled over Hindustan for a thousand years.

You speak so much the about invaders raping and killing yet you don't talk about your bunch go around killing people about caste system and your women being burned because of sati?

ThankGod for my ancestors changed religion and I don't have to belong to a certain caste and have our women burned seriously you should thank the British for that, while your country is still trying to deal with this caste system of yours