A complete encirclement Of Pakistan? by the Indo-Afghan alliance??

litman said:

full marks should be given to india. they have surrounded pak from all sides. afghanistan and iran may not attack pak but they intelligence agencies are working against pak may be for their own interests. iran is natural ally of india because of gwador port. so iran is bound to create unrest in baluchistan which is also in india's interest and they have been doing it for many years. afghanistan has always been a problem for pak except for the time when taliban were in command. presently iran and afghanistan are in india's pocket. but all these are minor trouble makers. the real threat to the pakistan are the elite of the pak political parties which have secret relations with raw. ANP successfully shut down the kalabagh dam project. mqm , ppp and pml n leaders are also on the pay roll of the raw. in addition to that a big chunk of the media of pakistan and social activists are also working for india's interest. military 's past record is also not very satisfying. the only hope for pak is raheel shareef and the day he retires pak will be in total control of her enemies as it was before his appointment as COAS.


we generally like to harm ourselves.

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Joe Shearer said:

The rivalry between China and India is exactly 62 years old. Go look it up.

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Paksanity said:

You want our military to annex Pashtun areas of Afghanistan? That's a horrible thing to say. Besides Pakistani Pashtuns don't like them here. They have had enough.

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EnggineerShahjehan said:

R u sure, before it was all peace?

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Joe Shearer said:

Yes, I am sure. I do not make these assertions lightly.

In fact, Chinese troops were quartered in India during the Second World War.

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EnggineerShahjehan said:

Ok ill study deeply on this topic , if i came to any new information ill let u know.

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AbRaj said:

Isn't it hypocrisy when you say Afghani pakhtoons like Pakistani counterparts but Pakistani Pakhtoons don't like Afghani pakhtoons???

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Dalit said:

No doubt, the Northern Alliance is an anti-Pakistan force across the border. These fools think that they can harm Pakistan by allowing Indian terror consulates to operate freely in Kabul. They are sorely mistaken.

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third eye said:

At the outset , it is most unfortunate that the author sees Indian engagement with Afghanistan as an encirclement.

It is this ' you are either my friend of his" approach which lies at the root of Pak polity . It is the proverbial mill stone around the neck.

The old joke in the Armed forces across the world is that Generals tend to fight the last war & plan for it ..

The parts quoted below are indicative of a Military approach to national decision making . It hasnt helped the nation thus far.

Yes, it has at best helped the nation to ' stay afloat' as the authpr puts it. But then , does a nation only wish to stay afloat of join the comity of nations as a contributing member ?

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EnggineerShahjehan said:

Ok ill study deeply on this topic , if i came to any new information ill let u know.


Before doing a research on history of sino-aryans relation ship, just one thing i must bring in your knowledge , cousines of Chinese , mangols, did ruled major parts of hindustan after accpeting Islam. And u can read it any where , but when it come to chinese yes it needs proper research.

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omegalamba7XL9 said:

Don't need Indian lectures. Let's resolve the kashmir issue and then we will surely tell our generals to take a back seat. Until kashmir issue stays unresolved Pakistanis will have strong emotional feelings towards kashmir and army will continue to implement policy in accordance to the sentiment of Pakistani people. Thanks

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AbRaj said:

Isn't it hypocrisy when you say Afghani pakhtoons like Pakistani counterparts but Pakistani Pakhtoons don't like Afghani pakhtoons???

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Joe Shearer said:

No.

The rules of logic are suspended when a Pakistani hyper-patriot expresses an opinion.

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Devil Soul said:

A complete encirclement?
By Imtiaz Gul
Published: May 3, 2016

Pakistan’s encirclement by the Indo-Afghan alliance is nearly complete. The Afghan Army Chief General Qadam Shah Shaheem said on April 30 that if other options don’t yield any positive results in bringing Pakistani incursions to a halt, the Afghan Army would step in as a last resort in responding to military aggression along the Durand Line. The Indian foreign secretary told Pakistan that it “cannot be in denial of the impact of terrorism on the bilateral relationship”, essentially reiterating that terror and talks cannot go hand in hand. Quietly, New Delhi remains focused on entrenching itself at the Iranian Chabahar port to gain access to Afghanistan and Central Asian energy markets, as well as connecting with the Middle East and Europe. With Afghan transit trade down, traffic through Chabahar is likely to make Pakistan even more irrelevant for Afghan imports. India has also successfully cultivated the ruling elite in both Afghanistan and the land-locked Central Asian states, thereby trumping the natural geographical importance and relevance that Pakistan has for these countries.

India-Afghanistan trade through Pakistan

We in Pakistan believe to have successfully thwarted Indo-Afghan-American conspiracies against us. But empirical evidence — Pakistan’s image abroad and its continued isolation on issues related to terrorism — suggests that this ‘success’ continues to bleed Pakistan socially, politically and economically. Tactically, we have been successful — but at what cost? Beyond doubt, neither the US nor India can bend a nuclear-armed Pakistan. Both tried, but failed to dictate. Punish they can, nevertheless; and continue to do so, both directly and indirectly. Through its strategic investment and a whole-of-government approach towards Afghanistan, India has created a hornet’s nest for Pakistan. Those who are relevant in Afghanistan — from members of parliament, to President Ghani, to Chief Executive Abdullah Abdullah, to former president Karzai and the civil-military establishment — are all blowing hot and cold on Pakistan as the supporter of “all those animals killing innocent Afghans”, a perception that resonates with common Afghans and is gaining currency by the day.
The way the Quadrilateral Contact Group has come to a halt on the heels of the deadly bombing in Kabul clearly illustrates that Pakistan has lost on the strategic front. It is fighting a modern war of perception-management with a Cold War-era tactical mindset blunted by an outdated bureaucratic implementation regime towards the war-battered country. The country cannot complete critical investments — a nuclear medicine hospital in Kabul or crucial road links — in nearly 10 years. The bureaucracy in Islamabad miserably fails in addressing Afghan importers’ grievances related to the transit trade.

Afghanistan losing interest in trade links with Pakistan

Many Pakistanis love to point to the US, India and other countries, despite the fact that Pakistan itself has relied on non-state actors in the last three decades to achieve geo-political objectives. From South America to the Middle East to Africa, we have seen support for such entities. Recently, President Obama expressed his determination to continue funding the training of anti-Assad Syrian non-state actors. This is considered to be fine as long as the US government and Congress consider it to be in the American interest. Most Pakistanis overlook the obvious difference here — a superpower, with all its might, or a burgeoning economy like that of India, can get away with such ventures. A struggling and marginalised economy — beset with endemic governance, political polarisation and a dearth of strategic vision — cannot.
Are our ruling elites thinking in the strategic way leaders in other countries think? We may be very good in tactical approaches. It has helped the country stay afloat, but is that enough for long-term peace, economic development and regional connectivity? Can the country afford policies that have drawn it into a prolonged state of conflict with both its major neighbours? The third neighbour — Iran — looks on as we hang on to the Cold War security matrix. Shouldn’t India’s growing economic proximity to Iran as well as to Saudi Arabia serve as a wake-up call to us all? That is real encirclement. Can an apologetic policy towards the Afghan Taliban really help the country end its global isolation and put it on the path to development?

Published in The Express Tribune, May 4th, 2016.

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Paksanity said:

Facts. Statements of facts are anything but hypocrisy. It's a very porous border. Which side do you see entering enmass to the other side? Pakistan provides much much better living environment.

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AbRaj said:

They are entering not for your love but to save their lives

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